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McDonald out at RIT
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MAHOCKEY FAN
Member
Re: McDonald out at RIT
Really????none of the Ivies give athletic or academic scholarships...(thats 6) add union for 7 non-scholarship schools out of 12....Clarkson , st Lawrence , RPI, Colgate and QPac. If i remember, colgate did not give scholarships until a few years ago....look what money can do! (also you have obviously not been reading our other thread on new coaches!)
Really????none of the Ivies give athletic or academic scholarships...(thats 6) add union for 7 non-scholarship schools out of 12....Clarkson , st Lawrence , RPI, Colgate and QPac. If i remember, colgate did not give scholarships until a few years ago....look what money can do! (also you have obviously not been reading our other thread on new coaches!)
Does anyone know why Union doesn’t give scholarships? Are they allowed to?
Puckdrop14
New member
Is that the word on the street?
Re: McDonald out at RIT
My bad. Forgot about the IVY no scholarships (cough, cough) And Union.
And yes I have been reading the other thread. My reading comprehension at age 66 is obviously lacking.
My bad. Forgot about the IVY no scholarships (cough, cough) And Union.
And yes I have been reading the other thread. My reading comprehension at age 66 is obviously lacking.
FiveHoleFrenzy
Well-known member
Re: McDonald out at RIT
Seems like things have a way of getting worked out for those with "need"...
https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/affordability-college-cost/these-10-expensive-colleges-have-free-tuition-or-full-ride-scholarships-for-middle-class-families/
My bad. Forgot about the IVY no scholarships (cough, cough) And Union.
Seems like things have a way of getting worked out for those with "need"...
https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/affordability-college-cost/these-10-expensive-colleges-have-free-tuition-or-full-ride-scholarships-for-middle-class-families/
MAHOCKEY FAN
Member
Re: McDonald out at RIT
Personal experience.....no help util we had 2 in college at once. On line calculators were very accurate at estimating family contribution. Ivy schools agree to match other schools if can demonstrate an interest.. Really are similar or would end in a bidding war. They also won't give you a package until Dec/Jan. Financial aid is higher then most....but cost is higher than most.
Personal experience.....no help util we had 2 in college at once. On line calculators were very accurate at estimating family contribution. Ivy schools agree to match other schools if can demonstrate an interest.. Really are similar or would end in a bidding war. They also won't give you a package until Dec/Jan. Financial aid is higher then most....but cost is higher than most.
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B) No athletic scholarships.
A) A while back, the President of Middlebury believed that D3 schools needed to be pure to the goals of D3. He sponsored legislation that D3 schools could not offer athletic scholarships. There was much walla walla with the heads of the affected D3 schools on either side of the issue. Clarkson was against. Union was for.
It came to a vote and lost, but it was also agreed that the current D3 schools that were playing up and not offering scholarships couldn't.
Subsequent legislation (2010-100) prohibited D3 schools from playing above their station, with the current schools grandfathered. A provision in the legislation says that if you abandon the playup, you can't playup again.
Hockeyplayer82
Registered User
Re: McDonald out at RIT
Assuming title 9 is in effect the men's coaching staff gets the same. That must be the lowest in Division I College hockey. Not Good!
Assuming title 9 is in effect the men's coaching staff gets the same. That must be the lowest in Division I College hockey. Not Good!
Brown is comparable.
Thank you. I never knew about this part.
Thats.....not how title ix works
Title IX has nothing to do with salaries. Comparable salaries is an equity issue. Google "Shannon Miller lawsuit."
I also think that $115k is not that far off some other D1 schools....Maine is actually way below that. Only think making it work is the husband/wife combo salary.
Hockeyplayer82
Registered User
Re: McDonald out at RIT
Union gives money from the endowment fund. Union only has 2,000 students and all are "eligible" to the money, if they are in "need". Athletes get the money(cough, cough, cough)
Salaries at RIT are comparable both Men and Women and they are the lowest in Division I hockey.
Ivy league does not give scholarship but the education, connections etc... is worth the student loan.
In the mid 80's when the NCAA passed the rule regarding multi divisional colleges, Union decided to not give scholarship, Colgate decided to give scholarship.
RIT and Union are the only non ivy league schools who do not give scholarship Union plays in the ECAC (strong league). RIT in Atlantic hockey ( not as strong or respected).
Bottom line; Its hard to win and when a team does not have the resources other schools have, well very very hard to win.
Strong coaching can help, however to be consistent, the programs need more resources which they will never get.
Union gives money from the endowment fund. Union only has 2,000 students and all are "eligible" to the money, if they are in "need". Athletes get the money(cough, cough, cough)
Salaries at RIT are comparable both Men and Women and they are the lowest in Division I hockey.
Ivy league does not give scholarship but the education, connections etc... is worth the student loan.
In the mid 80's when the NCAA passed the rule regarding multi divisional colleges, Union decided to not give scholarship, Colgate decided to give scholarship.
RIT and Union are the only non ivy league schools who do not give scholarship Union plays in the ECAC (strong league). RIT in Atlantic hockey ( not as strong or respected).
Bottom line; Its hard to win and when a team does not have the resources other schools have, well very very hard to win.
Strong coaching can help, however to be consistent, the programs need more resources which they will never get.
ZedLeppelin
Motormouth
Re: McDonald out at RIT
RIT plays in the CHA.
Resources such as scholarships, sure, but they're not hurting for facilities with their new Gene Polisseni Center.
RIT plays in the CHA.
Resources such as scholarships, sure, but they're not hurting for facilities with their new Gene Polisseni Center.
Re: McDonald out at RIT
To be clear I was referring to the men's program. Surely you're not comparing Wayne Wilson to a blind squirrel?
How would dropping to D3 help the men's program?
Powers &8^]
To be clear I was referring to the men's program. Surely you're not comparing Wayne Wilson to a blind squirrel?
How would dropping to D3 help the men's program?
Powers &8^]
Well then you're the only one talking about the men's team and their coach while the rest of us are talking about the women's team and their former coach. Feel free to go over to the men's thread to continue your conversation with yourself.