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Maryland and Rutgers to the B1G

Fighting Sioux 23 said:
That's what I've heard as well, but I'm curious if anyone can find what the actual bylaws say.
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Sorry man, I've spent the last half hour looking, but can't find the actual bylaw on conference tournament participation requirements. However, there are a ton of articles out there for hockey and Lacrosse that reference it being six teams. Perhaps send a Tweet to the Big Ten Twitter account?
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
Sorry man, I've spent the last half hour looking, but can't find the actual bylaw on conference tournament participation requirements. However, there are a ton of articles out there for hockey and Lacrosse that reference it being six teams. Perhaps send a Tweet to the Big Ten Twitter account?
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Thanks for looking. I've been looking myself as well, but I can't seem to find the B1G Bylaws anywhere either. I have an email sent out to an assistant AD at a B1G school that I have a connection with, and hopefully that comes up fruitful. Unfortunately, I don't have Twitter.
 
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ok-- here's a question.. as an affiliate member of the B1G can Univ of Chicago play up in its sports?
 
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pinch said:
ok-- here's a question.. as an affiliate member of the B1G can Univ of Chicago play up in its sports?
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Only in sports where the championship isn't offered at the D-III level.... Basically that would just be sports where there is a National Collegiate Champion... Rifle and Rowing come to mind for that... Pretty much everything offered at D-I is offered at D-III....

Not sure if the B1G would allow it however... That's just the NCAA stance on play-ups...
 
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The addition of Maryland and Rutgers will make the BTHC a perrenial powerhouse! Expect frozen fours of just B1G teams.
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
Yes. (USA Hockey registrations stats below):

1990-91: 6,452
2009-10: 16,041
Growth: 148.6%

Now, it's not the 53,450 participants Minnesota has or the 51,404 Michigan has, but it is a significant amount of participation and the growth is encouraging.

As for Maryland, Chris Peters at USofH had this to say:
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Stats like this are misleading because the growth is partially attributable to girls playing the sport. Likely there were next to zero girls playing in 1990 and likely 3000-4000 today, so the net growth of boys playing is significantly lower.
 
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Hammy said:
I don't take it seriously (Or much of anything on USCHO for that matter. :D). It is jealousy speaking with him given nobody cares about DU in any of these conversations on a national scale.
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Its not jealously that drives the conversation. Its what happens in the BCS conferences inevitabley trickles down and affects all the smaller conferences and schools.
 
dggoddard said:
Stats like this are misleading because the growth is partially attributable to girls playing the sport. Likely there were next to zero girls playing in 1990 and likely 3000-4000 today, so the net growth of boys playing is significantly lower.
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I would venture to guess boys hockey comprises the majority of the growth in New Jersey. If you'd like to prove otherwise, I'd love to see the sources.
 
Hammy said:
I don't take it seriously (Or much of anything on USCHO for that matter. :D). It is jealousy speaking with him given nobody cares about DU in any of these conversations on a national scale.
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Exactly :D

And if DU starts to underachieve again, like they did last year, he'll disappear from the board again.
 
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dggoddard said:
Stats like this are misleading because the growth is partially attributable to girls playing the sport. Likely there were next to zero girls playing in 1990 and likely 3000-4000 today, so the net growth of boys playing is significantly lower.
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The 2011-2012 hockey registrations for NJ for all males is 16091. Only 1094 females.

I don't know about those 1990 numbers he cited but if it is correct, then it would appear growth among male players has gone up quite a bit for that state.
 
Hammy said:
The 2011-2012 hockey registrations for NJ for all males is 16091. Only 1094 females.

I don't know about those 1990 numbers he cited but if it is correct, then it would appear growth among male players has gone up quite a bit for that state.
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I got the numbers from Chris Peter's blog post, which he cited the source as USA Hockey. I believe the article was from 2010. I was too lazy to look up the latest registration numbers from USA Hockey :p:)
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Pretty much. That being said, I don't think DU is going away this year...expect DG to be around until the end of March. ;) :p:D:D
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This is a "rebuilding year" for DU.

Just think how insufferable I'm going to be next year when the horses are a year older and our 2013 Blue Chippahs fill the stable.

2013 Recruiting Class Updated Stats
D Matt Van Voorhis (Sioux Falls, USHL) - 16 games, 2 goal, 7 assists
F Brad Hawkinson (Lincoln Stars, USHL) - 14 games, 3 goals, 1 assist
F Landon Smith (Cedar Rapids, USHL) - 15 games, 5 goals, 2 assists
F Connor Chatham (Omaha, USHL) - 17 games, 7 goals, 4 assists
F Ray Pigozzi (Chicago, USHL) - 12 games, 1 goal, 8 assists
D Will Butcher (U.S. Under-18) - 21 games, 3 goals, 10 assists
F Cody DePourcq (Penticton, BCHL) - 23 games, 1 goal, 5 assists
F Trevor Moore (Tri-Cities, USHL) 17 games, 8 goals, 10 assists
D Gage Ausmus (U.S. Under-18) 20 games, 2 assists
 
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dggoddard said:
This is a "rebuilding year" for DU.

Just think how insufferable I'm going to be next year when the horses are a year older and our 2013 Blue Chippahs fill the stable.

2013 Recruiting Class Updated Stats
D Matt Van Voorhis (Sioux Falls, USHL) - 16 games, 2 goal, 7 assists
F Brad Hawkinson (Lincoln Stars, USHL) - 14 games, 3 goals, 1 assist
F Landon Smith (Cedar Rapids, USHL) - 15 games, 5 goals, 2 assists
F Connor Chatham (Omaha, USHL) - 17 games, 7 goals, 4 assists
F Ray Pigozzi (Chicago, USHL) - 12 games, 1 goal, 8 assists
D Will Butcher (U.S. Under-18) - 21 games, 3 goals, 10 assists
F Cody DePourcq (Penticton, BCHL) - 23 games, 1 goal, 5 assists
F Trevor Moore (Tri-Cities, USHL) 17 games, 8 goals, 10 assists
D Gage Ausmus (U.S. Under-18) 20 games, 2 assists
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No one cares.
 
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Hammy said:
The problem with your thinking is it removes the psychology of how programs want to view themselves. Some of those "big boyz" would end up being a doormat in the type of conference you are suggesting. As we all know, ego is a big thing in college athletics and I don't see most of those schools risking their current status/brand as a winner by possibly suddenly becoming the equivalent of Gopher football in their new super conference. The money is nice but fans at these places are also used to winning... and that will go down for some of these places in such a scenario.
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Isn't this what just happened in college hockey? The problem with this analysis is that the same ego that wants to continue to be an upper tier team causes each of these programs to believe they will continue to be an upper tier team, and one of the other upper tier teams joining them will be the new league doormat.

That said, I don't see the big ten dividing up anytime soon.
 
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dggoddard said:
This is a "rebuilding year" for DU.

Just think how insufferable I'm going to be next year when the horses are a year older and our 2013 Blue Chippahs fill the stable.

2013 Recruiting Class Updated Stats
D Matt Van Voorhis (Sioux Falls, USHL) - 16 games, 2 goal, 7 assists
F Brad Hawkinson (Lincoln Stars, USHL) - 14 games, 3 goals, 1 assist
F Landon Smith (Cedar Rapids, USHL) - 15 games, 5 goals, 2 assists
F Connor Chatham (Omaha, USHL) - 17 games, 7 goals, 4 assists
F Ray Pigozzi (Chicago, USHL) - 12 games, 1 goal, 8 assists
D Will Butcher (U.S. Under-18) - 21 games, 3 goals, 10 assists
F Cody DePourcq (Penticton, BCHL) - 23 games, 1 goal, 5 assists
F Trevor Moore (Tri-Cities, USHL) 17 games, 8 goals, 10 assists
D Gage Ausmus (U.S. Under-18) 20 games, 2 assists
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I'm not too worried. 1 Player averaging point/game in juniors? Yawn. They might be able to duplicate DU's current senior class that has a whopping 1 win in the NCAA Tournament. :p:D:D
 
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The more I think about this, the more I think this could lead to the end of the NCAA (long term). If Im the B1G I add NC, Kansas, and I dont stop I add Alabama and so on, UCLA etc... I become college sports, I control TV, and I dont need the NCAA. I add the other schools that help me grow TV and marketing. Yesterday was the tip of the iceberg

What this means to hockey who knows, but I see this as the long term scenario
 
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