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Maine @ UNH 10/24: Will Whitehead finally pop?

Re: Maine @ UNH 10/24: Will Whitehead finally pop?

The state could save $61.73 million a year by ending welfare. This way 1/3 of the faculty could keep their jobs. Make the Capehart trash get a job for once.
 
Re: Maine @ UNH 10/24: Will Whitehead finally pop?

Gibber said:
I might be in the minorty on my side of the border, but I'd MUCH prefer maine to be a contender. Honestly, as decent as the atmosphere was on Saturday, it's just not the same. I'd rather see that game later in the season, even in December...BUT alas...
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I agree completely. But I was extremely excited that the dumb thunderstix were not given out.
 
Re: Maine @ UNH 10/24: Will Whitehead finally pop?

maineblackbear said:
Now Ohio State loses money on their athletic programs. Yes, they do. They spend about fifty million and lose about a million per year-- but that is revenue stream of fifty millions per year, some of which goes to academics. Makes no sense for The Ohio State University to reduce athletics, as they are to a certain extent reliant upon it (and can call upon state funding, though that safety net is being withdrawn in Ohio, also).
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UNH is in an interesting position. The State will not fund anything that is not directly education, and UNH's funding is usually near or at the bottom in the nation from the State. That means athletics, housing, dining halls, student life etc. has to be done through either tuition or self supporting revenue.

That is one reason why UNH Hockey is the way it is, the athletic department depends on it for funding and gives back little in the return. The Friends of UNH Hockey are counted on for more and more as the economy has problems and the A.D. needs more money because the state doesn't back stop anything. The Whitt had to be completed completely from upfront donations as the State wouldn't back a bond.
 
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AMC said:
Also, if a public university like UNH (42%) or UVM (66%) that draws a large number of out of state students wants to have D-I athletics to draw in students, good for them. They are getting a good return on their investment.
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The UNH and UVM athletic programs draw students but UMaine doesn't????:confused:
 
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sandiegoblkbr said:
The UNH and UVM athletic programs draw students but UMaine doesn't????:confused:
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Not my point, I don't know if they do.

My point is, that making your athletics department a loss leader for admissions is a plausible argument if you are targeting out of state students. UVM and UNH, for a variety of reasons, brings in a large percentage of their students from out of state. UMaine does not. So the "loss leader" argument does not apply.

I don't think UMaine should unilaterally drop athletics tomorrow. But if the athletics department is losing money it should be examined before cutting academic departments, staff or majors. I'd like to see a study done on the impact of Black Bear sports on the University as a whole. Are there secondary/soft benefits like increased alumni donations to the school (not the athletics departments) as a result of sponsoring D-I athletics? Does it increase enrollment? Does it attract better faculty? I don't know, I can guess at some of these answers, but I'd like to see data on it.
 
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JB said:
UNH is in an interesting position. The State will not fund anything that is not directly education, and UNH's funding is usually near or at the bottom in the nation from the State. That means athletics, housing, dining halls, student life etc. has to be done through either tuition or self supporting revenue.
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That's why we have one of, if not the, highest in-state tuition in the nation.
 
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walrus said:
No Maine fans cared about Unh back then, it was BU and BC and still is for us long time followers of the program
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And if we go back another decade? UNH was chasing BC and BU and couldn't care about ME. :p
As more of a 70's guy (and alumnus of a ME HS) I rather enjoy any opportunity to beat up on ME regardless of their talent/success, but measure the program against those Boston schools.

There's an annoying constant here across 30 or 40 years of hockey, and it's neither UNH nor ME.
 
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Call it what you like. There was a large turnout of voters and the people spoke. That's how a democracy is supposed to work.
 
Re: Maine @ UNH 10/24: Will Whitehead finally pop?

Runsub5 said:
Call it what you like. There was a large turnout of voters and the people spoke. That's how a democracy is supposed to work.
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It's not how the United States is supposed to work. Read Madison.

Anyway, e deserves a little blowback for introducing the issue at random into this thread. So here it is.

You want to defend marriage, boy? Then defend it. Have the courage of your convictions and call for an end to interfaith marriages. Nullification of all divorces and subsequent prohibition. An end to civil marriage. Then I'll believe you're not a bigot. :)

It doesn't matter, though. The yes on 1-ers are on the wrong side of history, and they know it. The irony is that by the simple and modest act of passing away, they can't help but bring about the very world they fought against.

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Heavy thoughts, eh? Maybe you should stick to hawkey, e- :p
 
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amherstblackbear said:
It's not how the United States is supposed to work. Read Madison.

Anyway, e deserves a little blowback for introducing the issue at random into this thread. So here it is.

You want to defend marriage, boy? Then defend it. Have the courage of your convictions and call for an end to interfaith marriages. Nullification of all divorces and subsequent prohibition. An end to civil marriage. Then I'll believe you're not a bigot. :)

It doesn't matter, though. The yes on 1-ers are on the wrong side of history, and they know it. The irony is that by the simple and modest act of passing away, they can't help but bring about the very world they fought against.

:eek:

Heavy thoughts, eh? Maybe you should stick to hawkey, e- :p
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First of all, one man/one woman has been the definition of marriage for how long? So who's on the wrong side of history?

Secondly, what's wrong with interfaith marriages?

Thirdly, what's wrong with civil unions as a solution to your dilema? Does that really make you a second class citizen?

Not sure where you are going with nullification of divorces but much of this smacks of Cathoilc bashing which will backfire on your side if that's the strategy. Are you really that intolerant?:eek:
 
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e.cat said:
Are the other 53% of your fellow Mainers who voted YES biggots also?
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Yes. There is no defending the "traditional marriage" that does not involve fear or bigotry. Try defending it without using the Bible, which also says we should stone kids and people who eat seafood are going to hell. Oh, and Solomon and his wives laugh at your silly notion that "one man/one woman" is somehow "traditional."
 
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e.cat said:
First of all, one man/one woman has been the definition of marriage for how long? So who's on the wrong side of history?
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So was owning other people as property.
 
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Priceless said:
Yes. There is no defending the "traditional marriage" that does not involve fear or bigotry. Try defending it without using the Bible, which also says we should stone kids and people who eat seafood are going to hell. Oh, and Solomon and his wives laugh at your silly notion that "one man/one woman" is somehow "traditional."
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I fail to see the problem with this...
 
Re: Maine @ UNH 10/24: Will Whitehead finally pop?

Runsub5 said:
Call it what you like. There was a large turnout of voters and the people spoke. That's how a democracy is supposed to work.
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:rolleyes:

Have you ever heard of the Tyranny of the majority? This is why we are a democratically elected republic. How many other states have an idiotic people's veto anyway?
 
Re: Maine @ UNH 10/24: Will Whitehead finally pop?

amherstblackbear said:
It's not how the United States is supposed to work. Read Madison.

Anyway, e deserves a little blowback for introducing the issue at random into this thread. So here it is.

You want to defend marriage, boy? Then defend it. Have the courage of your convictions and call for an end to interfaith marriages. Nullification of all divorces and subsequent prohibition. An end to civil marriage. Then I'll believe you're not a bigot. :)

It doesn't matter, though. The yes on 1-ers are on the wrong side of history, and they know it. The irony is that by the simple and modest act of passing away, they can't help but bring about the very world they fought against.
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right on.
 
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