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Maine Recruit Updates: All Are Welcome.......

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Drew S. said:
Do you know how much time Maine spent recruiting them or if Maine ever offered them? In today's world any kid with a Twitter account can say he's committing anywhere and there is nothing the coach can do about it. At some point the NCAA needs to update recruiting rules to reflect changes in technology. It's unfair for Red and other coaches to be made to look like idiots by kids like these two who have just 'decommitted.'
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Really? Your theory is they just made it up?
The Walstrom commit at age 6 covered the "look like idiots by kids" category for several years
 
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The NCAA should spend much more time on coaches recruiting 12 year old 7th graders, asking people to "tell them to call and come on campus", to circumvent recruiting policies, coaches decomitting kids, taking away scholarships, making kids sit out a year while coaches can exit a contract and coach ten minutes later. Lot more to worry about than alleged kids posting false Twitter commits
The coaches have made a mockery out of the sport. Should be like the movie Blindside, earliest you can announce is end of junior year, in writing and binding to the school

The entire process is a farce
 
Hokydad said:
The NCAA should spend much more time on coaches recruiting 12 year old 7th graders, asking people to "tell them to call and come on campus", to circumvent recruiting policies, coaches decomitting kids, taking away scholarships, making kids sit out a year while coaches can exit a contract and coach ten minutes later. Lot more to worry about than alleged kids posting false Twitter commits
The coaches have made a mockery out of the sport. Should be like the movie Blindside, earliest you can announce is end of junior year, in writing and binding to the school

The entire process is a farce
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Completely agree. My post had a fairly narrow focus but what you said is bang on. Kids shouldn't be worried at all about playing sports in college until their jr year of hs. There are way too many delusional parents out there.
 
Drew S. said:
Completely agree. My post had a fairly narrow focus but what you said is bang on. Kids shouldn't be worried at all about playing sports in college until their jr year of hs. There are way too many delusional parents out there.
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It's turned into a Peacock/twitter joust
The coaches and players have made a mockery out of it. I tell players all the time, no matter what they say to you, if you are not one of the top 12 or top 6 opening night, you will not dress. The rest is all bs. Many of these coaches are using the early commits to promote their program and almost don't care if the kid shows up, 3-5 years down the road.

No D 1 studs are left out because they didn't commit at 12
 
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Drew S. said:
In today's world any kid with a Twitter account can say he's committing anywhere and there is nothing the coach can do about it. At some point the NCAA needs to update recruiting rules to reflect changes in technology. It's unfair for Red and other coaches to be made to look like idiots by kids like these two who have just 'decommitted.'
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In regards to the first part of your post, VERY RARELY does a kid make a "fake" commitment. In these days, just as hoky alludes to below, even though coaches can't specifically talk about or to certain recruits, they can easily float information out there to quash rumors and circumvent the NCAA rules. One of the rare instances in which this happened, a kid from Canada (Devon MacAusland) had said something to the effect of "I'm committed to Boston College I guess" in a random article and it was quickly noted throughout the hockey world including USHR that it was not true at all. We also saw a majorly embarrassing incident in which a football player did the "HAT GAME" commitment in front of his entire school and picked CAL, only to have CAL have to come out and state they never even recruited the kid and had no idea who he was (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=kevinhart)

Even though these kids have social media to fake a commitment, everyone else has social media to refute it.

In the case of these kids decommitting from Maine, I would imagine Maine had recruited them and offered them and a real verbal agreement had been reached for these commitments to have sat out there so long without refuting it, no?
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
In regards to the first part of your post, VERY RARELY does a kid make a "fake" commitment. In these days, just as hoky alludes to below, even though coaches can't specifically talk about or to certain recruits, they can easily float information out there to quash rumors and circumvent the NCAA rules. One of the rare instances in which this happened, a kid from Canada (Devon MacAusland) had said something to the effect of "I'm committed to Boston College I guess" in a random article and it was quickly noted throughout the hockey world including USHR that it was not true at all. We also saw a majorly embarrassing incident in which a football player did the "HAT GAME" commitment in front of his entire school and picked CAL, only to have CAL have to come out and state they never even recruited the kid and had no idea who he was (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=kevinhart)

Even though these kids have social media to fake a commitment, everyone else has social media to refute it.

In the case of these kids decommitting from Maine, I would imagine Maine had recruited them and offered them and a real verbal agreement had been reached for these commitments to have sat out there so long without refuting it, no?
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I think you completely missed the point of my post. It wasn't that these kids fabricated the 'commitment,' it was more how much actual recruiting went into them? The kids obviously made their big announcements but Maine might not have put any effort into either one and figured there was no risk in letting them 'commit', or if nothing else didn't try to refute it. And maybe Red said if you decide to play college hockey, which I doubt either one seriously put much genuine consideration into, then we'll give you a spot on the team. There are those on here who think all this time was wasted on these kids which I'm almost 100% positive is not true.
 
Drew S. said:
Completely agree. My post had a fairly narrow focus but what you said is bang on. Kids shouldn't be worried at all about playing sports in college until their jr year of hs. There are way too many delusional parents out there.
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That's great and all but the QMJHL draft process ramps up well before then. In hockey the kids need to pick the college or juniors track that football and hoops kids don't.

Plus you better believe parents are thinking about it BEFORE high school and there's no dissuading them. It's why I no longer coach high school athletics. It's gross and not fun for the kids.
 
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Sports has changed BIG TIME...its a Business, no matter what you say, someone is looking towards the money factor all the time...we either deal with it and go with the flow...or for some and at times I am in the company that Sports has lost its luster/interest to a point that in some Sports I follow NO more(NBA-NFL)...I find it hard to lose interest in College Hockey, I hope for the BEST for the UMaine Hockey Program...but know that its NOT a given anymore that a Recruit will be coming to the Hockey Program, just a Fact of where we are now in Sports...best thing is to enjoy it...no matter what...like I said before it can be Good-Bad-Ugly, its just what you make of it...times change for the better and for the worst. FWIW hockey is not that far away:)..!
 
AMC said:
That's great and all but the QMJHL draft process ramps up well before then. In hockey the kids need to pick the college or juniors track that football and hoops kids don't.

Plus you better believe parents are thinking about it BEFORE high school and there's no dissuading them. It's why I no longer coach high school athletics. It's gross and not fun for the kids.
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High school sports is still fantastic, just tune the parents out. 99% of the kids do
 
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walrus said:
Wahlstrom commits to Harvard
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I figured with him playing over in Minnesota that Minnesota would have swooped in on him...I am surprised with his choice, but its his Life/Career and Maine has moved on...
 
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Drew S. said:
Why are people taking this serious?
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Because, despite it all, he's a really good hockey player?

You can all degrade this as a side show or whatever all you want, but Maine has a serious, serious dearth of good hockey players and this was maybe their best opportunity to add one. Maine is a really bad hockey team with old facilities and not much fan support these days. The Bears had a chance to add an impact player. Now they will just keep "reloading" with juniors players that can't score a point a game. The roller coaster ride of the Whitehead era is over- there are no more highs. It's a slow train to consistent 12th place finishes in Hockey East.
 
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