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Maine Offseason 2020: We Stay Home But Swayman Leaves

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Runsub5 said:
Nicely done Sean. I am somewhat surprised to see Cavanaugh and Gendron with virtually the same winning percentage. However, during the first few years Gendron's percentage is clearly below Cavanaugh's and Gendron's (without Swayman), would have never converged with Cavanaugh's
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Clearly, your observation passes the eye-test by a country mile.

And to take your point further, Red would never have been anywhere near a NCAA berth if not for Tim's leftover recruits early on, and then finding a Swayman via a blind- hog/acorn scenario.

Damn, if Red could make the tourney every third season and go 0-50 in the intervening seasons, it would be so much better than what we got: guaranteed failure every single year.

I do go on and on and on, I realize that. But I have seen every iteration of Maine hockey since Day One, and this one is by far the most hopeless.
 
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Sean Pickett said:
Well, I agree somewhat as the forfeits for the 1991-92 season were after the fact and did nothing to change the league standings (Hockey East changed the standing to show the forfeits and not the on-ice records) and should be part of Coach Walsh's record, but the 1993-94 forfeits were in-season and did change the standings, so those I don't think they should be part of Coach Walsh's record. However, I did create a chart with Coach Walsh's cumulative winning percentage with and without all forfeit. I also included Coaches York's and Parker's record for comparison.

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My favorite aspect of your chart is seeing Parker below Shawn near the end!

And thanks for all your number-crunching. That's really interesting stuff. Not to go out of my way to fanny-smootch, but you have consistently brought us our best posts for years and years now.

Thanks, and keep it up as long as you care to. As we used to say in Texas: The people eat that up like beans and cornbread.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
My favorite aspect of your chart is seeing Parker below Shawn near the end!

And thanks for all your number-crunching. That's really interesting stuff. Not to go out of my way to fanny-smootch, but you have consistently brought us our best posts for years and years now.

Thanks, and keep it up as long as you care to. As we used to say in Texas: The people eat that up like beans and cornbread.
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Thank you for the kind words. I have enjoyed the Maine threads far more than the BU threads the past several years. I also try to post when I have something that others might find interesting and relevant. I used to just post dry stats, but I have decided that pretty charts are nicer to look at and easier to compare those dry stats.

As for Coach Walsh moving above Coach Parker at the end of his career, a lot of that has to do with Parker hitting the doldrums for the last decade shown on the chart. He came out of that and had another golden decade and it would have been interesting to see if Coach Walsh would have been able to maintain his high level of winning. In a poor attempt to do so I've combine Coaches Walsh's and Whitehead's records together in the chart below (both official and on ice) along with those of Coaches York (27 seasons), Umile (28 seasons) and Parker (first 29 seasons).

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As can be seen Coach Parker trended back up to have the best winning percentage, but all are close and all show a slight downward trend the last few seasons. While I don't show it Coach Parker's winning percentage continued in a downward trend for his final 11 seasons. From this small sample size it appears that it might be best for a coach to retire around 25-29 years. I've started to research the rest of the DI coaches, so I'll have a few additional samples when I'm done.

Sean
 
Sean Pickett said:
As can be seen Coach Parker trended back up to have the best winning percentage, but all are close and all show a slight downward trend the last few seasons. While I don't show it Coach Parker's winning percentage continued in a downward trend for his final 11 seasons. From this small sample size it appears that it might be best for a coach to retire around 25-29 years. I've started to research the rest of the DI coaches, so I'll have a few additional samples when I'm done.

Sean
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"Would Walsh have declined late in his career like Parker" is an interesting thought experiment.
 
Sean Pickett said:
Thank you for the kind words. I have enjoyed the Maine threads far more than the BU threads the past several years. I also try to post when I have something that others might find interesting and relevant. I used to just post dry stats, but I have decided that pretty charts are nicer to look at and easier to compare those dry stats.

As for Coach Walsh moving above Coach Parker at the end of his career, a lot of that has to do with Parker hitting the doldrums for the last decade shown on the chart. He came out of that and had another golden decade and it would have been interesting to see if Coach Walsh would have been able to maintain his high level of winning. In a poor attempt to do so I've combine Coaches Walsh's and Whitehead's records together in the chart below (both official and on ice) along with those of Coaches York (27 seasons), Umile (28 seasons) and Parker (first 29 seasons).

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As can be seen Coach Parker trended back up to have the best winning percentage, but all are close and all show a slight downward trend the last few seasons. While I don't show it Coach Parker's winning percentage continued in a downward trend for his final 11 seasons. From this small sample size it appears that it might be best for a coach to retire around 25-29 years. I've started to research the rest of the DI coaches, so I'll have a few additional samples when I'm done.

Sean
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Very interesting to see Tim's and Shawn's combined on ice winning percentage is almost identical to Jerry York's. Interesting comment about how Shawn would have done long term. We can speculate , but we'll never know the answer.
 
Sean Pickett said:
I haven't researched the other leagues and there might be a coach who was able to turn it around after 8 seasons, but it seems to me that would be unlikely.
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So, I've spent the past two days compiling coaching records for all coaches since WWII for current Hockey East teams and I've also started working on the NCHC teams. I was wrong and there is a head coach who took twelve seasons before getting above 0.500, Minnesota-Duluth's Coach Sandelin. After 8 seasons he had a 0.440 winning percentage, just better than Coach Gendron's current 0.439. He also had limited postseason success, with just two WCHA semifinal appearances and one NCAA appearance (albeit an FF). Things really started going in the right direction his ninth season, when he finally won the WCHA tournament. So, it is possible that Coach Gendron is on the cusp of success, but I think it's unlikely.

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Sean Pickett said:
So, I've spent the past two days compiling coaching records for all coaches since WWII for current Hockey East teams and I've also started working on the NCHC teams. I was wrong and there is a head coach who took twelve seasons before getting above 0.500, Minnesota-Duluth's Coach Sandelin. After 8 seasons he had a 0.440 winning percentage, just better than Coach Gendron's current 0.439. He also had limited postseason success, with just two WCHA semifinal appearances and one NCAA appearance (albeit an FF). Things really started going in the right direction his ninth season, when he finally won the WCHA tournament. So, it is possible that Coach Gendron is on the cusp of success, but I think it's unlikely.
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Ummm, yeah... Seems kinda "unlikely" to me, too. (You're killing me here, Sean. Best laugh I've had in days.)

That was some interesting info re: Sandelin, too. UMD has been so good of late that I never would have guessed that he enjoyed so little success for that long.
 
https://twitter.com/BlackBearNation/status/1369653152052547586?s=20

Today’s
@MaineIceHockey
playoff game will no longer air on Maine’s CW/WPXT, due to technical difficulties at WPXT.
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Living in Maine sometimes is like living in some post-Soviet republic as far as technology goes. The BDN's website is less functional than something you would see on Compuserve in 1995. Video quality stinks for all local stations. News broadcasts may as well be filmed in someone's back shed. No consistency with what radio station carries what game.
 
AMC said:
https://twitter.com/BlackBearNation/status/1369653152052547586?s=20



Living in Maine sometimes is like living in some post-Soviet republic as far as technology goes. The BDN's website is less functional than something you would see on Compuserve in 1995. Video quality stinks for all local stations. News broadcasts may as well be filmed in someone's back shed. No consistency with what radio station carries what game.
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The BDN is a massive disappointment to me. I loved reading it growing up but it is now a shell of its former self.

This would be a radical idea but I would love the state to somehow fund/facilitate local news. I can’t imagine in the next 10 years it will be financially viable for it to be privately owned and think it is something essential to our state. It will never happen but should.
 
Drew S. said:
The BDN is a massive disappointment to me. I loved reading it growing up but it is now a shell of its former self.

This would be a radical idea but I would love the state to somehow fund/facilitate local news. I can’t imagine in the next 10 years it will be financially viable for it to be privately owned and think it is something essential to our state. It will never happen but should.
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We've already got state-sponsored media: the mainstream media (CBS, NBC, ABC, MSDNC, CNN, WaPo, NYT,...)
 
I figure Maine should win today. They're better than UNH, and playing at home for the first time should be a boost. But, in a one game format, impossible to say.
 
I don’t think Maine has won a game this year when Mulera has been out of the lineup.

Anyone know what the deal with Morrissey is? It’s a shame he has missed so many games.
 
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