Re: Maine Off Season 2011
I will spell it out for you in terms related to one of your trolling posts.
I'm not trolling. I'm saying that a lot of the conclusions that Whitehead definitely should go (and I'm actually not suggesting he shouldn't) are based on flawed evaluations and false premises, that's all. I don't have a stake in who Maine has as their coach, my interest was only in the process, not the result-- a discussion of how decisions like this are and should be made. Your only response has been that the decision is obvious and that you know it all, which is not particularly interesting or enlightening-- just rude.
YES, we do expect and were promised better than what we have seen
We, unlike you, know what a coach can bring to the table, and we know that when certain things happen, it is the coach's fault, and nobody elses. (certain things)
He begs for cash to go out and recruit the best, to give the people of Maine a championship calibre team (go look at the website, and then look at Northeastern's and merrimack's... do you see any "promises"
Dennehy approached me for a lot of cashola... sponsor a jersey, sponsor a seatback, be a member of this and that... "because I am building a contender"
Tim made those claims, Mark made those claims...
do you really not get that?
All coaches make those claims. It is their job to make those claims, and then do their best to make good on those claims. Sometimes they get the things they need to accomplish those goals, and sometimes they don't. Sometimes they are able to achieve the goals-- with or without resources-- and sometimes not. Sometimes they achieve the goals only partially. My only point has been that in the case of Maine, right now, those goals have admittedly not been fully achieved, but neither have the results been as poor as made out, and the apportioning of credit and blame for those results has been distributed in such a way that indicate many have judged the coach in a manner separate from the results themselves.
As for Coach Dennehy-- if he had to exchange as many words with you as I have within this thread, on behalf of the alumni I regret it. I certainly hope it was worth it for him.
as for not working in a service position... I know... "freelance consultant" means that you are not even asking if I would like fries... but you live only blocks from McDonald's and I know that Shawsheen Sunoco is hiring.
see, Zippy, not only do I know college hockey, I KNOW IT ALL
You don't know much. I don't live at the address you refer to, and haven't for over a decade, or do you think that McDonald's and Sunoco are now open in Kazakhstan? Your other information is no more current or accurate, but hey-- why should your little escapade of sleuthery about me turn out to be any more useful or relevant than anything else you've written?
Jeez,ya think..?And all this time I've been thinking that nary a citizen of The Pine Tree State had slept a wink since Saturday night,even the sweet little babies!
Why did you say it then? You were the one who said that a "majority" of his bosses wanted him fired, then you admit that's not the case.
Okay.
Your posts on this thread are verbose,
Guilty as charged. While I admit that brevity is the soul of wit, I often find that it's better to write a bit more and be sure no one misunderstands than to use shorthand. It seems this as failed me here, as I've been perceived as a troll with some secret unknowable agenda, and that isn't the case at all.
My apologies.
I'd have to take exception, as a good deal of the discussion in many Maine-related threads this season has been criticism and defense of their coach. It's a shame that not having a position on the issue myself, but rather a passing interest in how people make up their minds, has labeled me as, at best, a defender of a derided public employee, or, at worst, a troll. Oh well.
and transparent in their intent.(Yeah,some of us have bitten anyway...Our bad.)
Mind telling me? I'm honestly not interested in trolling. I've said nothing particularly offensive about any poster here, or about anyone's school, or even about those who feel I am questioning their obvious conclusion that Whitehead be fired-- as I mentioned, I don't necessarily think that's wrong, I just think that some of the ways people arrived at that conclusion are somewhat curious, and may skew their expectations for what comes afterward, and not for the better. To be lumped in with those who start threads like "Why isn't Union #1" and denigrations of the "EZAC" I think is a bit uncharitable, no?
If you are a an MC fan,why not post there,and back-slap a while with like-minded guys who are enjoying a truly exceptional season in North Andover?
I am, I do, and I have.
I'm definitely gonna root for The Mack in the NCAAs-I'd truly love to see them win it all-
Thanks! Much appreciated. I do think the Warriors' success this year is a pretty compelling story. That it comes at the expense of other fans' expectations for their programs is the nature of the game, but I would have hoped that being revealed as a supporter of one program isn't automatically indicative of having some shadowy agenda against the fans of another.
but I won't be reading or posting on their thread.(Little hint there.)
Plenty of fans both read and post in season threads of other programs. I realize that a lot of that which does go on is trolling, but that is sincerely not my intent at all. If that's the only way it can or will be perceived, then I won't post further on this topic-- I doubt there's any more for me to say on it, and it's unfortunate that there was really very little reasoned response to my question about how Maine fans evaluate their coach's performance, but perhaps that's simply to be expected so soon after the season's end.
See you next year,if at all,please?
Agreed. Thanks for being civil, much appreciated.
