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Maine Hockey: Summer 2015 on the Stillwater

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all bear said:
But you would be surprised how many people want to come back to vacationland after having spent time "out there". Traffic and overall congestion is getting to be obnoxious beyond the border. As long as there are few high paying jobs in Maine though I guess the flat landers will stay put.

Now back to Maine Hockey, key word ....patience
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Ahh no. That's the biggest problem facing the state. The kids aren't coming back because nobody can survive on $15 an hour in this state and the 60-80K jobs are very few and far between....not that 60K is that much if you have a family. And I'm not leaving for Mass, RI, Conn, or NY. I'm going south where you don't get taxed to death, it's warm and there are jobs that pay enough to live a decent life. And cut the patience crap. In another 2 to 3 years you'll be the only one in the stands, so bring your patience sign and waive it with pride as Maine is working on it's 4th single digit win season in a row.
 
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ck1969 said:
Ahh no. That's the biggest problem facing the state. The kids aren't coming back because nobody can survive on $15 an hour in this state and the 60-80K jobs are very few and far between....not that 60K is that much if you have a family. And I'm not leaving for Mass, RI, Conn, or NY. I'm going south where you don't get taxed to death, it's warm and there are jobs that pay enough to live a decent life. And cut the patience crap. In another 2 to 3 years you'll be the only one in the stands, so bring your patience sign and waive it with pride as Maine is working on it's 4th single digit win season in a row.
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God dam right.... no reason at all we shouldn't be pencil whoppin the 2nd, 3rd, 4th , and 5th place teams in the country, on the road mind you, with Red's frosh and sophomore classes and Timmays left overs. Who Ta phk needs all Americans Shore and Hutton anyway? Bring on Providence, in Providence, and we'll kick their azz too.

Smile... I'll take Portland, you can have Newark. :D
 
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Quinnipiac is 11-0.

BC is 9-1.

North Dakota is 9-1-2.

UMass-Lowell is 8-1-2.
 
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Schurthamer back this weekend, that should help the D. One of these days the boys are going to win:) why not against Vermont? The U in their infinite wisdom schedules a State championship football game Friday at 7pm so parking should be great Friday night. if the hockey sucks you can walk over and watch 2 good class D football teams battle anyway
 
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all bear said:
God dam right.... no reason at all we shouldn't be pencil whoppin the 2nd, 3rd, 4th , and 5th place teams in the country, on the road mind you, with Red's frosh and sophomore classes and Timmays left overs. Who Ta phk needs all Americans Shore and Hutton anyway? Bring on Providence, in Providence, and we'll kick their azz too.

Smile... I'll take Portland, you can have Newark. :D
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Right there with you. I lived 10 years in Massachusetts after starting out in Maine after college. I was so glad to get back here and I really don't ever want to move again.
 
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ck1969 said:
Ahh no. That's the biggest problem facing the state. The kids aren't coming back because nobody can survive on $15 an hour in this state and the 60-80K jobs are very few and far between...
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That's the truth... Prices are climbing and wages are not, comparatively. On that reason alone we should not be bringing in as many foreigners as refugees that we have been. It's asking for trouble when we're already in a depression and there aren't even enough bad paying jobs to go around.
 
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walrus said:
Schurthamer back this weekend, that should help the D. One of these days the boys are going to win:) why not against Vermont? The U in their infinite wisdom schedules a State championship football game Friday at 7pm so parking should be great Friday night. if the hockey sucks you can walk over and watch 2 good class D football teams battle anyway
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Wasn't the U, it was the cash cows at the Maine Principals Association, who tend to screw things up more than the U
 
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blackbearbandie said:
That's the truth... Prices are climbing and wages are not, comparatively. On that reason alone we should not be bringing in as many foreigners as refugees that we have been. It's asking for trouble when we're already in a depression and there aren't even enough bad paying jobs to go around.
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We shouldn't be bringing ANYONE into this country until every Vet has a roof over their head!!! 1/20/17 can't come fast enough.
 
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all bear said:
God dam right.... no reason at all we shouldn't be pencil whoppin the 2nd, 3rd, 4th , and 5th place teams in the country, on the road mind you, with Red's frosh and sophomore classes and Timmays left overs. Who Ta phk needs all Americans Shore and Hutton anyway? Bring on Providence, in Providence, and we'll kick their azz too.

Smile... I'll take Portland, you can have Newark. :D
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Union is 3-6-3. Princeton is 1-5-0.
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11 games, 11 goals.
 
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rufus said:
11 games, 11 goals.
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Never said they could score...obviously gripping their sticks (both of em) too hard...Im in the camp also you build from the goalie on out which I think we are seeing with occasional bumps. Goalie and defense have generally been pretty good even with the addition of a few freshmen and the loss of Hutton, who admittedly contributed more on the offensive end of things than on D. Forwards are - some upperclassmen who have never scored much, a bit snakebitten maybe, and or freshmen who usually take a while to find the back of the net. Whats worrisome to some degree is the lack of multiple good chances, but I keep coming back to a brutal schedule, almost entirely on the road....lets give this guy the 5 year plan at least, with all his guys, and see whats shaken at that point. Chreerist we gave the pencil neck geek what 12 years or so, though most were ready to hang him in effigy after the first 5.
 
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Wasn't the U, it was the cash cows at the Maine Principals Association, who tend to screw things up more than the U
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You Mean alfond stadium is under MPAs control and not the U? BS, the U own policy is not schedule stuff the night of hockey games and guess what they can't even follow their own policy
 
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blackbearbandie said:
That's the truth... Prices are climbing and wages are not, comparatively. On that reason alone we should not be bringing in as many foreigners as refugees that we have been. It's asking for trouble when we're already in a depression and there aren't even enough bad paying jobs to go around.
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Maine needs more working age people. People that are going to start businesses, raise families, and sustain the economy. Maine is old and getting older. Whether those people come from another state or another country does not matter, but the most likely source is probably from another country. Like how immigrants provided labor for our industrialization (textiles, shoes, paper). Who is going to bring jobs to Maine, when it is a old state? Do you think a car company wants to build a factory to employ a bunch of 50+ year old out of work mill workers, who will soon be retired, meanwhile there are dwindling numbers of kids who will eventually take their place? Maine can be an attractive place for people to COME and start small tech startups (Portland startups are attracting some venture capital, we need more of that). Maine does little to improve infrastructure (we have ****ty internet) to help facilitate this, and under funds their University (the system needs more computer science and engineering graduates, some will leave the state, but some will create startups). There is little chance of attracting big businesses to Maine, without first improving the economic situation and talent pool through home-grown small business.
 
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walrus said:
You Mean alfond stadium is under MPAs control and not the U? BS, the U own policy is not schedule stuff the night of hockey games and guess what they can't even follow their own policy
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It's been in the MPA's rotation since the four-class format came into play, so both sides can take the blame. But yes, parking will be absolute hell on Friday
 
BassAle said:
Maine needs more working age people. People that are going to start businesses, raise families, and sustain the economy. Maine is old and getting older. Whether those people come from another state or another country does not matter, but the most likely source is probably from another country. Like how immigrants provided labor for our industrialization (textiles, shoes, paper). Who is going to bring jobs to Maine, when it is a old state? Do you think a car company wants to build a factory to employ a bunch of 50+ year old out of work mill workers, who will soon be retired, meanwhile there are dwindling numbers of kids who will eventually take their place? Maine can be an attractive place for people to COME and start small tech startups (Portland startups are attracting some venture capital, we need more of that). Maine does little to improve infrastructure (we have ****ty internet) to help facilitate this, and under funds their University (the system needs more computer science and engineering graduates, some will leave the state, but some will create startups). There is little chance of attracting big businesses to Maine, without first improving the economic situation and talent pool through home-grown small business.
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I have a bachelors degree, and the school system I work for required me to have a 4 year degree to be hired as an Ed Tech 3 at the time of my hire. This is my 4th year working at the school. After all deductions, my daily income is $62 a day. I still pay $250 a month for student loans and I live in a 1 bedroom apartment for $625 a month. I have a car to get to work in that I have to maintain and put gas in. I was also in the Army Guard for 8 years... $62 a day! In case you're wondering, my hourly wage is just over $15 an hour, but after deductions I make $8.85 an hour profit.

How will taking in foreigners make my situation any better? Refugees?
 
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blackbearbandie said:
I have a bachelors degree, and the school system I work for required me to have a 4 year degree to be hired as an Ed Tech 3 at the time of my hire. This is my 4th year working at the school. After all deductions, my daily income is $62 a day. I still pay $250 a month for student loans and I live in a 1 bedroom apartment for $625 a month. I have a car to get to work in that I have to maintain and put gas in. I was also in the Army Guard for 8 years... $62 a day! In case you're wondering, my hourly wage is just over $15 an hour, but after deductions I make $8.85 an hour profit.

How will taking in foreigners make my situation any better? Refugees?
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How will it hurt? You work in education. An aging state, that will constantly be downsizing schools (outside of greater Portland), is not a good thing for your future. Immigrants/refugees will likely be younger, have children or will soon have children, and will help stabilize out shrinking school populations. What did you study? With a more vibrant economy, there will be more opportunity for everyone. Maybe even opportunity for you outside of education. That won't happen without bringing people into this state. Its not enough to just keep a larger fraction of the young people leaving the state.

In just my department at my company, both in our Maine office and an office out of state, there are many people here on work visas. I may be the only person left in my 10 person Maine-based group that was actually born in Maine. All together we have hundreds of employees in Maine that came "from away", many from overseas. Without those immigrants we might as well close up shop, because we would never find enough qualified people locally. In my department people are making 60-100K a year, spending that money locally, putting their kids in local school, etc. All together, across the entire company, millions of dollars being spent locally. It has a huge impact. Maine absolutely CANNOT succeed without attracting younger work-aged residents from away. Immigrants will be an important part of that.


Sorry to continue the off topic discussion. But bringing it back around, Maine as a state, is in big trouble economically, which does not bode will for the University and its athletic program.
 
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BBDiehard14 said:
Wasn't the U, it was the cash cows at the Maine Principals Association, who tend to screw things up more than the U
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walrus said:
You Mean alfond stadium is under MPAs control and not the U? BS, the U own policy is not schedule stuff the night of hockey games and guess what they can't even follow their own policy
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BBDiehard14 said:
It's been in the MPA's rotation since the four-class format came into play, so both sides can take the blame. But yes, parking will be absolute hell on Friday
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The only way it gets into the MPA's rotation is at the hands of the landlord: the University of Maine. Either the U scheduled a hockey game at the same time they had previously agreed to rent the stadium out, or they agreed to rent the stadium out at the same time they had a hockey game scheduled. Either way, the organization in charge - the one creating the chaos - is the U.
 
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