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Maine Hockey 2014-15 Volume 2: Red's Revenge

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Plus there's the whole "Denver is a much better job" thing.
 
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We are 3 years removed from the Jimmy thing. It doesn't matter anymore. If's and buts and woulda shouldas don't change the present situation. Hopefully Red can get this team to improve next season. If he doesn't I think the program will be in big trouble for years to come, because I have a feeling all the big $ donors are going to jump ship. I'm sure some already have but if the program loses those guys as well as the majority of the fan base, then bye bye cash cow. This program is very close to the point of no return., as far a being relevant.
 
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ck1969 said:
We are 3 years removed from the Jimmy thing. It doesn't matter anymore. If's and buts and woulda shouldas don't change the present situation. Hopefully Red can get this team to improve next season. If he doesn't I think the program will be in big trouble for years to come, because I have a feeling all the big $ donors are going to jump ship. I'm sure some already have but if the program loses those guys as well as the majority of the fan base, then bye bye cash cow. This program is very close to the point of no return., as far a being relevant.
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Yeah, its already close to Lake state so the program drowning would be similar instead of a great lake we have the atlantic ocean. Red has the weight of the world on his shoulders and like you I wonder if he can relate to the kids as head coach? I see folks say the guys he recruited at Yale love him so let him get his guys in and we'll see.
 
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Maine isn't far from being a, say, #12 seed in the NCAA's right now... But it's the apparent quality of the incoming recruits that's making me feel pessimistic. Tim dropped the ball in that regard at some point in the mid-2000's, the program has never recovered, and I wouldn't bet the farm that it will any time soon. (I always scratch my head when some 18-YO recruit cites Maine's "tradition", when he was a baby last time Maine was really good.)

On a more positive note, Ben Hutton scored a goal on his pro debut last night right here in Utica (AHL). I predict he'll be a dependable grinder for at least a few years in the NHL. He possesses a fairly complete game already.
 
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Maine isn't far from being a, say, #12 seed in the NCAA's right now... But it's the apparent quality of the incoming recruits that's making me feel pessimistic. Tim dropped the ball in that regard at some point in the mid-2000's, the program has never recovered, and I wouldn't bet the farm that it will any time soon. (I always scratch my head when some 18-YO recruit cites Maine's "tradition", when he was a baby last time Maine was really good.)

On a more positive note, Ben Hutton scored a goal on his pro debut last night right here in Utica (AHL). I predict he'll be a dependable grinder for at least a few years in the NHL. He possesses a fairly complete game already.
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I have to disagree with you on the 12 seed statement. I think they are quite a ways away from being a tourney team. They are very close to being a 12 seed in Hockey East however! ;)
 
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Took a look at Chris Heisenbergs 2015 Updated List for Maine and he still has Stephen Cochrane listed as 2016 and he has dropped down Mitchell Fossier/Pat Shea/Sam Spicer to 2016.
 
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Jimmy Vesey said he's returning to Harvard for his senior year. I hope that our Vesey elects to do the same at Maine, we need him.
 
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Rob Bellamy's sister was a member of the U.S. Woman's Team which won the World Cup in Malmo, Sweden, today, 7-5.
 
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Rob Bellamy's sister was a member of the U.S. Woman's Team which won the World Cup in Malmo, Sweden, today, 7-5.
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Rob Bellamy's sister played on the 2014 US Women's Olympic team (2-1 lead late in the game) that gagged up The Gold to Canada 3-2. Worse than any other performance of the 2014 games. No one cared who won Silver.
 
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Plus there's the whole "Denver is a much better job" thing.
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The Denver Post story on Gwozdecky's firing was 4/1/13. IIRC, he was actually let go on Monday 3/31.
Maine canned Red's predecessor on 4/9.
Denver announced Montgomery's appointment as Head Coach on 4/15.
Maine announced the formation of the Head Coach search committee on 4/16.
What was Monty supposed to do? He would have been crazy not to take the Denver job when offered. His other choice was to wait and see if he'd get the Maine job God knows how many weeks later? I don't think so.
 
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Jimmy Vesey said he's returning to Harvard for his senior year. I hope that our Vesey elects to do the same at Maine, we need him.
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Nolan Vesey will be just a Sophomore next fall and a late draft pick by Toronto(6th Rd.)...he showed flashes of being a main cog in next season offense,with that said he's needs all the experience he can get @ Maine.
 
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ck1969 said:
I have to disagree with you on the 12 seed statement. I think they are quite a ways away from being a tourney team. They are very close to being a 12 seed in Hockey East however! ;)
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It's certainly a debatable point. I based my comment on how they looked against BU, BC and PC. Maine seemed to be in the same ballpark, more or less. Just a sniper or two short of a load.
 
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Fishman'81 said:
It's certainly a debatable point. I based my comment on how they looked against BU, BC and PC. Maine seemed to be in the same ballpark, more or less. Just a sniper or two short of a load.
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They really don't have any go to guy in scoring this coming season,as they lost there two main threats in Shore & Hutton....maybe Vesey and a host of others will need to score as a group,but I don't see say a 15-16 goal scorer on this team for next season...plus there defense and goaltending will be suspect going into camp again...trying to be positive...but this team has the makings of 10th through 12th finish...could be another long season in store for Maine Hockey in 2015-16.
 
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I have to agree. Red's recruits look bottom-feeder fare.

Recruiting woes were my main complaint under Tim, and it appears to be getting worse under Red.
 
Fishman'81 said:
It's certainly a debatable point. I based my comment on how they looked against BU, BC and PC. Maine seemed to be in the same ballpark, more or less. Just a sniper or two short of a load.
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I agree. The glass is half full for you guys.

Safe journey to you folks making the trip down to the FF. Hope to see you at Sullivan's Tap or other fine Gahden area venues.
 
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I have to agree. Red's recruits look bottom-feeder fare.

Recruiting woes were my main complaint under Tim, and it appears to be getting worse under Red.
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At least Tim put some of his guys in the NHL. Will any of Red's recruits ever get that far?
 
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