Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

[all bear]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Yes, maybe 10 games or so in person, and several times more on TV...

He's a smart player, but he's not really a significant scorer at the D-1 level. He'd probably be the best player on the third line on a contending team, at best.

His numbers speak pretty accurately for themselves, IMO.

Give Shore some time. He strikes me as the kind of kid who starts slowly and his play really builds with time. Methinks he'll be a handful of a monster to handle by mid season.

 

[walrus]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

To the admin. that PM'd me.......FU2, d-bag!

It was probably a Maine fan

 

[Priceless]

It was probably a Maine fan

I have no idea why he thinks it was an Admin who negged him. It wasn't.

ETA: I think I understand now. See, he's under the impression that just because you can't see the name of the person who negged him it had to have been an admin. He apparently isn't aware that only people who pay for Extra can see who left them rep.

 

[blackbearbandie]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

I noticed this weekend's game is listed as a 7:30 start time. Is that because the game is going to be on TV?

 

[BoSox3066]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Yes, maybe 10 games or so in person, and several times more on TV...

He's a smart player, but he's not really a significant scorer at the D-1 level. He'd probably be the best player on the third line on a contending team, at best.

His numbers speak pretty accurately for themselves, IMO.

Third liner on a contending team in 1993 maybe. There's no question he's a top six guy in today's college hockey.

 

[blackbearbandie]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

I noticed this weekend's game is listed as a 7:30 start time. Is that because the game is going to be on TV?

Here's the TV schedule that's listed: http://www.hockeyeastonline.com/men/media/tv.php. Doesn't look like it's on TV, so it must have been foresight by the Athletic Department to make traffic flow smoother after the football game.

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Yes, maybe 10 games or so in person, and several times more on TV...

He's a smart player, but he's not really a significant scorer at the D-1 level. He'd probably be the best player on the third line on a contending team, at best.

His numbers speak pretty accurately for themselves, IMO.

Shore at this time is more or less a playmaker...he needs to shoot more/not 8-9 times a game but 2-3 more times per game and he needs to drive to the net/not around it...he has a good shot form the dot/which he should try more/keeps it low and on goal. As far as a 3rd liner at best/not hardly...

 

[Ma#1ne Hky]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Yes, maybe 10 games or so in person, and several times more on TV...

He's a smart player, but he's not really a significant scorer at the D-1 level. He'd probably be the best player on the third line on a contending team, at best.

His numbers speak pretty accurately for themselves, IMO.

Shore at this time is more or less a playmaker...he needs to shoot more/not 8-9 times a game but 2-3 more times per game and he needs to drive to the net/not around it...he has a good shot form the dot/which he should try more/keeps it low and on goal. As far as a 3rd liner at best/not hardly...

 

[Mainehockeyman]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Third liner on a contending team in 1993 maybe. There's no question he's a top six guy in today's college hockey.

college hockey has done nothing but get faster, more skilled, and tactically more sophisticated. 3rd liners now would have been skill guys then, not the other way around.

 

[Hockeyman99]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Good call removing the personal back and forth bickering. Let's talk Maine Hockey!

 

[BoSox3066]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

college hockey has done nothing but get faster, more skilled, and tactically more sophisticated. 3rd liners now would have been skill guys then, not the other way around.

Have you looked at Maine's roster from 1993?

College hockey may have gotten deeper and the talent more spread around, but third liners from championship teams in the early 90s, woah. No third liner from any of BC's championship teams recently cracks Maine's 92 or 93 lineup, I haven't looked specifically, but I imagine not BU's 95 either.

 

[Fishman'81]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

college hockey has done nothing but get faster, more skilled, and tactically more sophisticated. 3rd liners now would have been skill guys then, not the other way around.

I tend to agree. While it's hard to compare eras, IMO there are many more astute and athletic players in the game now than there were 20 years ago, hence the parity we're seeing these days.

Probably was a little harsh in my assessment of Devin, but 6 goals in 38 games isn't anything to email home about. I do like having him on the team -he's a responsible and smart player- but I just don't see him ever becoming a true sniper... He just doesn't possess that set of instincts, it seems to me.

(Hope I'm wrong, and he ends-up scoring 20 this year.)

 

[Fishman'81]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Have you looked at Maine's roster from 1993?

College hockey may have gotten deeper and the talent more spread around, but third liners from championship teams in the early 90s, woah. No third liner from any of BC's championship teams recently cracks Maine's 92 or 93 lineup, I haven't looked specifically, but I imagine not BU's 95 either.

Maine's lineup in '93 was a once-in-a-lifetime aberration. I seriously doubt that we'll ever see anything like 42-1-2 again, from any school.

 

[walrus]

I tend to agree. While it's hard to compare eras, IMO there are many more astute and athletic players in the game now than there were 20 years ago, hence the parity we're seeing these days.

Probably was a little harsh in my assessment of Devin, but 6 goals in 38 games isn't anything to email home about. I do like having him on the team -he's a responsible and smart player- but I just don't see him ever becoming a true sniper... He just doesn't possess that set of instincts, it seems to me.

(Hope I'm wrong, and he ends-up scoring 20 this year.)

Don't forget what's around him. This isn't bball where one guy can dominate

 

[all bear]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Devin's not a sniper...never will be. But he can effectively use his big body to get position inside the dots and score on anyone. Most of his goals will be a little down and dirty, but they count just the same. I can see him putting up 15 in a season, 20 I would think would be a stretch, but if the team really gets rolling like I think they will, its entirely possible, IMO.

 

[fiqure8]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Devin's not a sniper...never will be. But he can effectively use his big body to get position inside the dots and score on anyone. Most of his goals will be a little down and dirty, but they count just the same. I can see him putting up 15 in a season, 20 I would think would be a stretch, but if the team really gets rolling like I think they will, its entirely possible, IMO.

From what I saw last year he does have a finishing touch if he shoots the puck quicker with a better release

 

[Pucknut]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

Devin's not a sniper...never will be. But he can effectively use his big body to get position inside the dots and score on anyone. Most of his goals will be a little down and dirty, but they count just the same. I can see him putting up 15 in a season, 20 I would think would be a stretch, but if the team really gets rolling like I think they will, its entirely possible, IMO.

I don’t see this becoming a reality as long as he’s playing on the same line as Lomberg.

 

[Brian Kasabian]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

I don’t see this becoming a reality as long as he’s playing on the same line as Lomberg.

I have to agree, as long as Shore skates with Lomberg and Leen you will see him play a very similar role as Joe Thornton once had on the B's feeding Murray and Samsonov. In reality if this line holds together as the season progresses I think another 25+ point season for Shore is very likely. I think he will feed Lomberg for 15, Leen for 10 and then the rest of his points will be his goals... It really does feel like with so few true proven finishers on this young team that this line HAS TO match the scoring potency lost in Diamond's departure. This line has to score 25 goals minimum this season for Maine to be competitive down the stretch.

 

[umainesuperfan]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

From what I saw last year he does have a finishing touch if he shoots the puck quicker with a better release

aren't those the two major parts of shooting?

that's like saying, you know what he could be a really good shooter if only he could fix his footwork and his release and his shot selection, or he could be a great dunker if he could, you know, jump high enough to dunk.

if you're 20 years old and have been playing elite hockey for the better part of a decade, you don't just suddenly get better at shooting if you're not already good do you? maybe i'm off base here, but it seems like you're saying he doesn't shoot quick enough, and he needs a better release, and those things will just magically happen and that it's not a stretch for him to attain that. seems like if it was going to happen it would have already.

i've seen nothing to suggest that shore will be a dominant player during his college career. he will be steady and will play good two way hockey but i just haven't seen it yet. that being said who you play with can really affect your traditional stat output. look at anthoine. he can barely skate, pass, or do a whole slew of other things and he is often forgettable, yet he was at the top of the nation in PPG's that one year where he just camped out in front of the net and banged home goals. hopefully leen and lomberg prove to be capable linemates. i think that they would be an incredible second line, but expecting them to carry the offense against other first lines is a little bit of a lofty goal IMO.

 

[Brian Kasabian]

Re: Maine Hockey '13-14: Are you Red-E?

aren't those the two major parts of shooting?

that's like saying, you know what he could be a really good shooter if only he could fix his footwork and his release and his shot selection, or he could be a great dunker if he could, you know, jump high enough to dunk.

if you're 20 years old and have been playing elite hockey for the better part of a decade, you don't just suddenly get better at shooting if you're not already good do you? maybe i'm off base here, but it seems like you're saying he doesn't shoot quick enough, and he needs a better release, and those things will just magically happen and that it's not a stretch for him to attain that. seems like if it was going to happen it would have already.

i've seen nothing to suggest that shore will be a dominant player during his college career. he will be steady and will play good two way hockey but i just haven't seen it yet. that being said who you play with can really affect your traditional stat output. look at anthoine. he can barely skate, pass, or do a whole slew of other things and he is often forgettable, yet he was at the top of the nation in PPG's that one year where he just camped out in front of the net and banged home goals. hopefully leen and lomberg prove to be capable linemates. i think that they would be an incredible second line, but expecting them to carry the offense against other first lines is a little bit of a lofty goal IMO.

Whole post was a waste of life to read. Anthoine is extremely conditioned.