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Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
So mark the date! I have responded to some of KIA's posts with some cheap shots, the problem is when you talk to Mr. A
he's not a bad guy! So from this point forward with my limited hockey knowledge
I will refrain from getting personal.
It is clear that you have a very good handle on many of the technical aspects, what is not clear is if it is so obvious to other coaches (since you and the venerable Tim Army) see things, how is it that Tim, or let's say Bob Corkum who played over 700 games in the NHL don't? I guess that is the crux of my problems with your observations. Yes I see things in a more positive manner and have been an apologist, but I refuse to believe that a coach that has been around the game this long and his staff are so incompetent, but yet managed to get very good to good teams to the Frozen Four and National Championship game.
Is it possible that some of these items are addressed, but the reason they are playing at Maine and not the NHL is that many of the players still have aspects of their game that need work? Abbott is not now a great player because of Tim, nor was he a mediocre player in spite of Tim, he has developed and now has confidence through hard work and as a result more opportunity. Flynn, Nyquist, and House need to get the confidence and spark they had going again. Having a second line that can put the puck in the net has been crucial especially with the power play in freefall!
Last night was disappointing as it is the second time Maine has taken a lead into the final 5 minutes of a game on the road and wound up with a tie, and to give up a shortie to boot!
So my New Years resolution is too not say mean things about KIA even if my hockey knowledge or lack thereof is being shredded. Afterall I only played the game for 4 years when I lived in Canada and have only been watching Maine since I arrived in Orono in 1980 and the Tortorella brothers were playing for Maine at the time.
Merry Christmas KIA, I'll be donning my Maine Santa hat soon!
So mark the date! I have responded to some of KIA's posts with some cheap shots, the problem is when you talk to Mr. A
he's not a bad guy! So from this point forward with my limited hockey knowledge I will refrain from getting personal.It is clear that you have a very good handle on many of the technical aspects, what is not clear is if it is so obvious to other coaches (since you and the venerable Tim Army) see things, how is it that Tim, or let's say Bob Corkum who played over 700 games in the NHL don't? I guess that is the crux of my problems with your observations. Yes I see things in a more positive manner and have been an apologist, but I refuse to believe that a coach that has been around the game this long and his staff are so incompetent, but yet managed to get very good to good teams to the Frozen Four and National Championship game.
Is it possible that some of these items are addressed, but the reason they are playing at Maine and not the NHL is that many of the players still have aspects of their game that need work? Abbott is not now a great player because of Tim, nor was he a mediocre player in spite of Tim, he has developed and now has confidence through hard work and as a result more opportunity. Flynn, Nyquist, and House need to get the confidence and spark they had going again. Having a second line that can put the puck in the net has been crucial especially with the power play in freefall!
Last night was disappointing as it is the second time Maine has taken a lead into the final 5 minutes of a game on the road and wound up with a tie, and to give up a shortie to boot!
So my New Years resolution is too not say mean things about KIA even if my hockey knowledge or lack thereof is being shredded. Afterall I only played the game for 4 years when I lived in Canada and have only been watching Maine since I arrived in Orono in 1980 and the Tortorella brothers were playing for Maine at the time.
Merry Christmas KIA, I'll be donning my Maine Santa hat soon!
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Make that two goalies Still wish Martin had gotten the start a week ago against BC, but he may have still been nursing his injury. Not any more....sounds like this kid might be a keeper. Obviously anxious to get a start and he made the best of it.
Good to see Nyquist get untracked finally and Flynn find the back of the net. Overall, a good weekend for da Bearz to get back on track.
Make that two goalies
Still wish Martin had gotten the start a week ago against BC, but he may have still been nursing his injury. Not any more....sounds like this kid might be a keeper. Obviously anxious to get a start and he made the best of it.Good to see Nyquist get untracked finally and Flynn find the back of the net. Overall, a good weekend for da Bearz to get back on track.
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Yep....on the flip side though, some other guys picking up some valuable playing time without a whole lot of damage to the record. When they get back it'll take some time for them to get back in the groove.
The PP performance shows how much Dimmen and O'Neill are missed. The PP really does need to improve soon.
Yep....on the flip side though, some other guys picking up some valuable playing time without a whole lot of damage to the record. When they get back it'll take some time for them to get back in the groove.
sandiegoblkbr
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sandiegoblkbr
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Good points......Maine's light December schedule sure worked in their favor this year!
Good points......Maine's light December schedule sure worked in their favor this year!
Fishman'81
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Ouellette didn't give up any fat rebounds and only roamed too far from his crease once.Would love to see that trend continue from all Maine goalies.Marty has a quick glove and seems to position himself well.
He wasn't challenged a lot tonight,though,'cause the Maine D took pretty good care of him.The one guy all weekend who made me groan was the veteran Banwell,who made at least three very dumb decisions to lug the puck through the low slot.He was the only D-man that made any obvious bad decisions that I saw.The young D looked very good.
Speaking of:that O'Connor kid was impressive.He's a great skater,confident,smart,and a tad chippy.He never let up,even (especially) when taking on his big brother...All you guys who miss Prestin are gonna like him I think.
Ouellette didn't give up any fat rebounds and only roamed too far from his crease once.Would love to see that trend continue from all Maine goalies.Marty has a quick glove and seems to position himself well.
He wasn't challenged a lot tonight,though,'cause the Maine D took pretty good care of him.The one guy all weekend who made me groan was the veteran Banwell,who made at least three very dumb decisions to lug the puck through the low slot.He was the only D-man that made any obvious bad decisions that I saw.The young D looked very good.
Speaking of:that O'Connor kid was impressive.He's a great skater,confident,smart,and a tad chippy.He never let up,even (especially) when taking on his big brother...All you guys who miss Prestin are gonna like him I think.
bearsFan93
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Gus and Flynn are back!!!!!!!!! and our goaltending and defense may have gone from solid to good, YES!, I am signficantly less worried now than I was 24 hrs ago. This team has done this to me all season.
Gus and Flynn are back!!!!!!!!! and our goaltending and defense may have gone from solid to good, YES!, I am signficantly less worried now than I was 24 hrs ago. This team has done this to me all season.
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
yup
I absolutely LOVE how he moves.
wait till you see his hip check, he absolutely anihilated someone at the beginning of the season, in open ice.
yup
I absolutely LOVE how he moves.
wait till you see his hip check, he absolutely anihilated someone at the beginning of the season, in open ice.
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
alright because you are all just dieing to know what I think...
first the bad... just to get it out of the way.
the powerplay needs work, big time... they still cannot get the puck on net from the point (but that should change with Dimmen and ONeill back, but to see Abbott AND NYQUIST hitting shin pads from the point and high slot is pathetic), and they keep overloading the right side with 4 players and nobody on the left, so if a shot goes wide left, it is guarunteed PC puck, they have to post 2 guys down low, one on each side.
now the good.
I wish you all could have seen the anticipation plays in the third tonight. Maine kept sending a wing up ice in antipation of a pass, and the wing got behind the D and either shot and scored (Abbott, Flynn) or they got around the D and made a nice pass back (Mangene), but they were thinking up ice, rather than dump and chase or "do it all by myself"
there were many plays that were tic tac toe, passes, not crisp tape to tape (yet), but good enough to get behind the really slow PC defensemen.
Mangene looked to pass on a semi breakaway!!! yaaay
and he passed from behind the net to set up Beattie... the goal was really all Mangene, not to take anything away from Kyle, but it was a great threading of a needle AND mangene LOOKED UP.
The D was solid... this might not be saying much against PC, but they did what they had to do. I do not think that anyone got really close to Ouelette for a shot and a follow up. the D took care of any rebounds that were left.
Fishman mentioned that Banwell tried lugging the puck through the slot, so did Gus and he dropped it too, but it went to Maine (iirc).
I laughed out loud at one play... I have never seen it before.
The puck was in Maine's offensive zone, VanDyk caught an edge out in the neutral zone (the ice was awful, everyone was falling all over the place, for no apparent reason)... vanDyk did a sort of heels in the air, sideways barrell roll, almost like a cartwheel, looks completely disoriented, gets up, and the puck was on this tape, like that was a set play, and then he passed it to an open man.... maybe you had to see it, but it was hilarious.
Here's hoping the good guys can carry some confidence into Friday's game against whoever it is...but no overconfidence.
MC lost at home for the first time
PC lost at home for the first time, Maine does not need to!
alright because you are all just dieing to know what I think...
first the bad... just to get it out of the way.
the powerplay needs work, big time... they still cannot get the puck on net from the point (but that should change with Dimmen and ONeill back, but to see Abbott AND NYQUIST hitting shin pads from the point and high slot is pathetic), and they keep overloading the right side with 4 players and nobody on the left, so if a shot goes wide left, it is guarunteed PC puck, they have to post 2 guys down low, one on each side.
now the good.
I wish you all could have seen the anticipation plays in the third tonight. Maine kept sending a wing up ice in antipation of a pass, and the wing got behind the D and either shot and scored (Abbott, Flynn) or they got around the D and made a nice pass back (Mangene), but they were thinking up ice, rather than dump and chase or "do it all by myself"
there were many plays that were tic tac toe, passes, not crisp tape to tape (yet), but good enough to get behind the really slow PC defensemen.
Mangene looked to pass on a semi breakaway!!! yaaay
and he passed from behind the net to set up Beattie... the goal was really all Mangene, not to take anything away from Kyle, but it was a great threading of a needle AND mangene LOOKED UP.
The D was solid... this might not be saying much against PC, but they did what they had to do. I do not think that anyone got really close to Ouelette for a shot and a follow up. the D took care of any rebounds that were left.
Fishman mentioned that Banwell tried lugging the puck through the slot, so did Gus and he dropped it too, but it went to Maine (iirc).
I laughed out loud at one play... I have never seen it before.
The puck was in Maine's offensive zone, VanDyk caught an edge out in the neutral zone (the ice was awful, everyone was falling all over the place, for no apparent reason)... vanDyk did a sort of heels in the air, sideways barrell roll, almost like a cartwheel, looks completely disoriented, gets up, and the puck was on this tape, like that was a set play, and then he passed it to an open man.... maybe you had to see it, but it was hilarious.
Here's hoping the good guys can carry some confidence into Friday's game against whoever it is...but no overconfidence.
MC lost at home for the first time
PC lost at home for the first time, Maine does not need to!
MEbear
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Do I hear twice before Christmas break? I want to see him in net at the Alfond!
Do I hear twice before Christmas break? I want to see him in net at the Alfond!
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