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Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
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rufus
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Lot better than giving up 5 on 17 shots like some of our previous goalies.
Lot better than giving up 5 on 17 shots like some of our previous goalies.
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
It isn't anymore?
The team has been to four Frozen Fours and is a skate blade and a bad official away from having two more championships.
The current Black Bears are #3 in the polls, #5 in the PWR and have the best record in Hockey East. But let's find something to complain about because we can't possibly be happy because the team is winning again!
It isn't anymore?
The team has been to four Frozen Fours and is a skate blade and a bad official away from having two more championships.
The current Black Bears are #3 in the polls, #5 in the PWR and have the best record in Hockey East. But let's find something to complain about because we can't possibly be happy because the team is winning again!
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Very impressive compilation of data. Especially at 2:00 a.m.
Very impressive compilation of data. Especially at 2:00 a.m.
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
again, you are trying to get people to point out the obvious
Grant Maine vs no grant.
and you want someone to point out who maine has played this season... kudos.
again, you are trying to get people to point out the obvious
Grant Maine vs no grant.
and you want someone to point out who maine has played this season... kudos.
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Complaining is kind of a strong word isn't it? I'd say its a discussion about what we fans would like to see. Thats what this board is all about, isn't it. I think most of us can see the obvious things you like to point out, maybe if you say them enough we'll stop going to games or reading up on the team or listening to them on the radio or hoping they win another championship or not
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Indeed...because all good teams win games and say:
"Top notch work boys! There is nothing we could possibly do differently so lets get blissfully complacent and make no adjustments in the future!! Let's make sure our opponents know exactly what to prepare for in practice, and make sure we keep no one on their toes. Additionally lets keep as few players fresh for game-action as we can!"
As far as your previous response, I think I already hit on those points..
Readers Digest version...
OK, but Sullivan isn't exactly going on a Tim Thomas run of shutouts here....nor a Ben Bishop run of 1-goal/game 'shutouts'
He's been fantastic, but ..... Is the assumption that if Sullivan gave up 2 goals per game the others would have given up 5? Who's to say one of the other guys doesn't come into one of those nights a pitch a shutout? Where does the conversation go if that happens? ... I'm just saying that I haven't seen enough of this race to call it already.
Ride Mr. Sullivan for as far as 2 goals/game takes him? What if we do, he takes us to January, and Mr. Sullivan blows his knee? Now, in the heat of the season, we have to rely on guys that haven't seen action in 3 months.
END POINT....
People keep saying 'ride the hot hand'...
well, again, no disrespect to sully, but our HOT HAND is 9th in conference in save percentage.
THis is quite obviously the best we're going to do this year, so lets not risk anything?
Every single handed goalie we've used in the past 5 or 6 years got complacent with his job at some point, or went into slumps, and when he slumped we really had little choice but to keep playing him because the guy behind him wasn't game ready which partially explains some our previous mid or late season faulters. How are you people secure without any form of goaltending insurance?
Regardless of what Hockey East Superfan says....NU will not be a TUC. Road games carry more weight than home in the PWR, so you've got a home series against an in conference non-TUC. The stakes couldnt have been lower to give someone else a mere look.
Indeed...because all good teams win games and say:
"Top notch work boys! There is nothing we could possibly do differently so lets get blissfully complacent and make no adjustments in the future!! Let's make sure our opponents know exactly what to prepare for in practice, and make sure we keep no one on their toes. Additionally lets keep as few players fresh for game-action as we can!"
As far as your previous response, I think I already hit on those points..
Readers Digest version...
OK, but Sullivan isn't exactly going on a Tim Thomas run of shutouts here....nor a Ben Bishop run of 1-goal/game 'shutouts'
He's been fantastic, but ..... Is the assumption that if Sullivan gave up 2 goals per game the others would have given up 5? Who's to say one of the other guys doesn't come into one of those nights a pitch a shutout? Where does the conversation go if that happens? ... I'm just saying that I haven't seen enough of this race to call it already.
Ride Mr. Sullivan for as far as 2 goals/game takes him? What if we do, he takes us to January, and Mr. Sullivan blows his knee? Now, in the heat of the season, we have to rely on guys that haven't seen action in 3 months.
END POINT....
People keep saying 'ride the hot hand'...
well, again, no disrespect to sully, but our HOT HAND is 9th in conference in save percentage.
THis is quite obviously the best we're going to do this year, so lets not risk anything?Every single handed goalie we've used in the past 5 or 6 years got complacent with his job at some point, or went into slumps, and when he slumped we really had little choice but to keep playing him because the guy behind him wasn't game ready which partially explains some our previous mid or late season faulters. How are you people secure without any form of goaltending insurance?
Regardless of what Hockey East Superfan says....NU will not be a TUC. Road games carry more weight than home in the PWR, so you've got a home series against an in conference non-TUC. The stakes couldnt have been lower to give someone else a mere look.
sandiegoblkbr
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Love the outside of the box stats. Excellent work.
I do realize that the majority of teams exclusively use 1 goalie, but Tim expected a competition/rotation, and he has seemingly declared a 'no 2nd place relevant' winner less than a month into the season.
Not to mention, a 2 headed goalie has found just about all of Maine's major successes.
Love the outside of the box stats. Excellent work.
I do realize that the majority of teams exclusively use 1 goalie, but Tim expected a competition/rotation, and he has seemingly declared a 'no 2nd place relevant' winner less than a month into the season.
Not to mention, a 2 headed goalie has found just about all of Maine's major successes.
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
I don't see it like that. If Sullivan has a bad game, don't you think we'll see a different tender the next game?
I don't see it like that. If Sullivan has a bad game, don't you think we'll see a different tender the next game?
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Exactly, just like when we had established rotations, a good game friday didn't mean keep playing until you stink up the joint one night.
How is turning to someone else despite sullivan's good starts any more of a risk then if we keep playing him every game? Wouldn't you say the kid's gonna be due for a rough one eventually? can you predict the night? You can look **** fine in practice all week then give up 6 on Friday. Similarly, I've watched warmups and thought....man... he doesn't look like he's feelin it...and then he puts up an egg.
It's all well and good, though, because as far as most here are concerned, Sully is off the hook. Should he play a bad game this weekend, we'll all just pat him on the back for everything he's done before and maybe play someone else. Should Sirman come in and have a mediocre game...everyone can think: Are you happy now? As if to imply his mediocre game 1 night transfers to all nights, and he obviously would have lost those games sullivan won.
Exactly, just like when we had established rotations, a good game friday didn't mean keep playing until you stink up the joint one night.
How is turning to someone else despite sullivan's good starts any more of a risk then if we keep playing him every game? Wouldn't you say the kid's gonna be due for a rough one eventually? can you predict the night? You can look **** fine in practice all week then give up 6 on Friday. Similarly, I've watched warmups and thought....man... he doesn't look like he's feelin it...and then he puts up an egg.
It's all well and good, though, because as far as most here are concerned, Sully is off the hook. Should he play a bad game this weekend, we'll all just pat him on the back for everything he's done before and maybe play someone else. Should Sirman come in and have a mediocre game...everyone can think: Are you happy now? As if to imply his mediocre game 1 night transfers to all nights, and he obviously would have lost those games sullivan won.
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Every situation is different. As I said, it didn't happen with Alfie either. Sirman had the inside track to start the season, and Sullivan has taken it with his play. For now.
Every situation is different. As I said, it didn't happen with Alfie either. Sirman had the inside track to start the season, and Sullivan has taken it with his play. For now.
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Someone talked about the softy Sirman gave up. I guess that one did cost him if you're giving starts simply based on performance.
Look at how the numbers stack up when you take that softy away...
Sirman
2-0-1 83.3%
.911 Save Pct
2.39 GAA (Facing Over 27 shots/game)
Sullivan
4-1-1 75%
.901 Save pct
2.24 (Facing less than 23 shots/game)
This race is obviously Sullivans based on ice performance alone...
Someone talked about the softy Sirman gave up. I guess that one did cost him if you're giving starts simply based on performance.
Look at how the numbers stack up when you take that softy away...
Sirman
2-0-1 83.3%
.911 Save Pct
2.39 GAA (Facing Over 27 shots/game)
Sullivan
4-1-1 75%
.901 Save pct
2.24 (Facing less than 23 shots/game)
This race is obviously Sullivans based on ice performance alone...
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Alfie's backup was 3-0-1 with a 1.73 gaa
and a future all Hockey east goalie his senior year... also he played a lot for the Oilers and for the Senators in the NHL
(and in my opinion, he was the "reason" that Maine lost to Minnesota in the Piotrowski game)
(but i didn't remember either, I had to look it up)
Who was Alfies backup?, I can't remember. I do remember Alfie certainly didn't set the world on fire during the regular season, but he was pretty good when it mattered
Alfie's backup was 3-0-1 with a 1.73 gaa
and a future all Hockey east goalie his senior year... also he played a lot for the Oilers and for the Senators in the NHL
(and in my opinion, he was the "reason" that Maine lost to Minnesota in the Piotrowski game)
(but i didn't remember either, I had to look it up)
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
yeah but he did not remind us where Lake State was after they did all those things and suddenly stopped
yeah but he did not remind us where Lake State was after they did all those things and suddenly stopped
Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
I like how calm and how square Sully plays. Very quiet. His numbers also include his first ever start in college hockey. His save percentage will grow. I was surprised he started the second game against Northeastern, I thought that would have been a good time to get Sirman in, but I'm not going to complain as long as the results are there.
I like how calm and how square Sully plays. Very quiet. His numbers also include his first ever start in college hockey. His save percentage will grow. I was surprised he started the second game against Northeastern, I thought that would have been a good time to get Sirman in, but I'm not going to complain as long as the results are there.
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Re: Maine Black Bears 2010 - 2011
Road games carry the exact same weight as home games in the PWR.
Games against non-TUC teams have to be won. They aren't throwaway games. If the opponent is pitiful the win will get dropped from your RPI altogether - if you lose or tie to a non-TUC it can kill your RPI. If they somehow manage to become a TUC (hello Union) it can keep you from making the tournament. Not to mention it is two points in Hockey East...those points can be pretty valuable come March.
Road games carry the exact same weight as home games in the PWR.
Games against non-TUC teams have to be won. They aren't throwaway games. If the opponent is pitiful the win will get dropped from your RPI altogether - if you lose or tie to a non-TUC it can kill your RPI. If they somehow manage to become a TUC (hello Union) it can keep you from making the tournament. Not to mention it is two points in Hockey East...those points can be pretty valuable come March.
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