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LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
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michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
Finally someone who sees the bigger picture! Bill is so hung up on the fact that I - as well as a few others (and NO! I'm not a new screen name ... I've been around a LONG time!) - are more interested in being Roque's cheerleaders and disparaging the AD and Prez. He can't see the forest through the trees. I would love nothing more than to see Lake State succeed. But, given the current equation at Lake State, it ain't gonna happen. I'm a realist. And it would appear that Davyd is too.
Just as an aside, I would like Bill and JNACC to enlighten us all and tell us exactly what the AD and the Prez have done to help the Lake State Hockey cause in the past 9 years? How have they supported Roque (and I want specifics)? What makes you think any new coach would preform any better given the same set of conditions in which to work - only one full-time assistant and one part-time assistant; no support staff, i.e. admin asst., or full time hockey SID; no promotions or advertising; meager travel and recruiting budget; etc. What strides in the right direction have these key players - the AD and the Prez - made to show confidence and support in the hockey program?
Bill, pull your head out of your *** and realize that all you've been saying is that we Roque Cheerleaders can only disparage the AD and Prez. I'm getting tired of hearing it. Put up or shut up.
Finally someone who sees the bigger picture! Bill is so hung up on the fact that I - as well as a few others (and NO! I'm not a new screen name ... I've been around a LONG time!) - are more interested in being Roque's cheerleaders and disparaging the AD and Prez. He can't see the forest through the trees. I would love nothing more than to see Lake State succeed. But, given the current equation at Lake State, it ain't gonna happen. I'm a realist. And it would appear that Davyd is too.
Just as an aside, I would like Bill and JNACC to enlighten us all and tell us exactly what the AD and the Prez have done to help the Lake State Hockey cause in the past 9 years? How have they supported Roque (and I want specifics)? What makes you think any new coach would preform any better given the same set of conditions in which to work - only one full-time assistant and one part-time assistant; no support staff, i.e. admin asst., or full time hockey SID; no promotions or advertising; meager travel and recruiting budget; etc. What strides in the right direction have these key players - the AD and the Prez - made to show confidence and support in the hockey program?
Bill, pull your head out of your *** and realize that all you've been saying is that we Roque Cheerleaders can only disparage the AD and Prez. I'm getting tired of hearing it. Put up or shut up.
michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
I really hope the AD and those involved aren't going to drag their feet on this. But given the AD's past track record as to how important she sees Laker Hockey as, I'm sure this won't happen at any break-neck speed.
I really hope the AD and those involved aren't going to drag their feet on this. But given the AD's past track record as to how important she sees Laker Hockey as, I'm sure this won't happen at any break-neck speed.
michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
And interesting tidbit - Lake State's overall record this season was actually better than Tech's.
And interesting tidbit - Lake State's overall record this season was actually better than Tech's.
FadeToBlack&Gold
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
I would also suggest that LSSU look at well-tenured lead assistants from the current WCHA. These are the coaches who know how to recruit to small schools from the western junior leagues, and know how to work with tight budgets. That said, bumping that head coach salary to at least $100,000 would go a long way towards landing one of those guys. You have to consider that Roque took a significant "alma mater discount" in 2005. Six figures is the minimum to attract a pedigreed coach who will attempt to field a competitive team. Of course, if you wanted to gamble on a coach with little to no NCAA resume, then look no further than Matt Thomas - however, bear in mind that UAA is paying him a base salary of $150k for five years - almost 75% more than Roque's base at LSSU.
I would also suggest that LSSU look at well-tenured lead assistants from the current WCHA. These are the coaches who know how to recruit to small schools from the western junior leagues, and know how to work with tight budgets. That said, bumping that head coach salary to at least $100,000 would go a long way towards landing one of those guys. You have to consider that Roque took a significant "alma mater discount" in 2005. Six figures is the minimum to attract a pedigreed coach who will attempt to field a competitive team. Of course, if you wanted to gamble on a coach with little to no NCAA resume, then look no further than Matt Thomas - however, bear in mind that UAA is paying him a base salary of $150k for five years - almost 75% more than Roque's base at LSSU.
PerkyforPrez
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
I can't remember the two posters you are calling out say that the AD and PRES have done a awsome job. They never said the program is not lacking the funding. Everyone on here knows this. They along with a lot of people on here and in the public have said Roque did not get the most out of his players while at Lake State he in fact most people think is just not a head coach period. Is it going to be easy hell no it isn't, but I hope that everone is going to work together to get the program on solid ground.
You say your a Laker fan but you have posted that the team is going to fail miserably and you will laugh and feel vindicated in some pathetic self glory. That doesn't sound like a Laker fan to me at all.
I can't remember the two posters you are calling out say that the AD and PRES have done a awsome job. They never said the program is not lacking the funding. Everyone on here knows this. They along with a lot of people on here and in the public have said Roque did not get the most out of his players while at Lake State he in fact most people think is just not a head coach period. Is it going to be easy hell no it isn't, but I hope that everone is going to work together to get the program on solid ground.
You say your a Laker fan but you have posted that the team is going to fail miserably and you will laugh and feel vindicated in some pathetic self glory. That doesn't sound like a Laker fan to me at all.
AnchorsAway
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
Midge you lose any and all credibility by attacking Bill and accusing him of being "hung up" on anything, he is as knowledgeable and drama-averse as any of the regular posters. Clearly you have an axe to grind with the current administration (which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion) but you sound foolish when you accuse regular posters of drama and bias, when there are literally hundreds, of past posts that point to nothing but the direct opposite being true.
Midge you lose any and all credibility by attacking Bill and accusing him of being "hung up" on anything, he is as knowledgeable and drama-averse as any of the regular posters. Clearly you have an axe to grind with the current administration (which is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion) but you sound foolish when you accuse regular posters of drama and bias, when there are literally hundreds, of past posts that point to nothing but the direct opposite being true.
I haven't heard anything.
I see that Penn State beat Michigan today in the first game of the Big 10 tournament. Lakerblue's gotta be loving that.
Lakers2Glory
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
mmf
Nanook Nation
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
Somewhat ironic.
Gadowski was an unknown and I believe the second choice when he took over and turned the Nooks around. He is just flat out a good Coach and a winner. You need to find the next Gadowski. If you find him you won't keep him long, but that's a good problem to have.
Somewhat ironic.
Gadowski was an unknown and I believe the second choice when he took over and turned the Nooks around. He is just flat out a good Coach and a winner. You need to find the next Gadowski. If you find him you won't keep him long, but that's a good problem to have.
PerkyforPrez
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michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
I am not going to be laughing at the team if they fall flat - I'm going to be laughing at all you pie-in-the-sky optimists who think a new head coach is the only solution to the problem. And a bargain one at that! I want someone on here to tell me WHY the AD and all the things I listed before don't need to change as well. I don't think you can! That solution is bigger than just a head coach. Time to clean house!
I am not going to be laughing at the team if they fall flat - I'm going to be laughing at all you pie-in-the-sky optimists who think a new head coach is the only solution to the problem. And a bargain one at that! I want someone on here to tell me WHY the AD and all the things I listed before don't need to change as well. I don't think you can! That solution is bigger than just a head coach. Time to clean house!
michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
My gripe is that Bill is only preaching 'coaching change'. I ask for solid reasons why there shouldn't be an AD change as well. Again, the problem is BIGGER than just the head coach position. Acknowledging it (and the shortage of funding for the program) doesn't lessen it's critical role in the equation. I want facts. What has the AD done for the Laker Hockey program in the last 9 years, and please cite specifics!
My gripe is that Bill is only preaching 'coaching change'. I ask for solid reasons why there shouldn't be an AD change as well. Again, the problem is BIGGER than just the head coach position. Acknowledging it (and the shortage of funding for the program) doesn't lessen it's critical role in the equation. I want facts. What has the AD done for the Laker Hockey program in the last 9 years, and please cite specifics!
michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
I've heard a few names. Unfortunately, not ones who really know and understand D1 college hockey. Hold on folks, this is gonna be a bumpy ride!
I've heard a few names. Unfortunately, not ones who really know and understand D1 college hockey. Hold on folks, this is gonna be a bumpy ride!
PerkyforPrez
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
Your going to be laughing period after the team falls flat. Great fan you are.
Are you very old and not understanding something because I don't see where one poster said Dunbar has to stay or we are doomed for Laker hockey. The coach was let go it's a start, hopefully Dunbars eye's have been opened and gets to work. We the posters that you have a beef with do not have input to her firing, simple as that. I plan on sending her a email to point out some things I think she needs to do better or even start doing period. The last few series she was out and about in the croud trying to see how things could be inproved for the fans. A little late sure but maybe her eyes were opened, I hope they were.
I have never laughed at the team or anyone else when Lake Superior Hockey teams have ever lost.
Your going to be laughing period after the team falls flat. Great fan you are.
Are you very old and not understanding something because I don't see where one poster said Dunbar has to stay or we are doomed for Laker hockey. The coach was let go it's a start, hopefully Dunbars eye's have been opened and gets to work. We the posters that you have a beef with do not have input to her firing, simple as that. I plan on sending her a email to point out some things I think she needs to do better or even start doing period. The last few series she was out and about in the croud trying to see how things could be inproved for the fans. A little late sure but maybe her eyes were opened, I hope they were.
I have never laughed at the team or anyone else when Lake Superior Hockey teams have ever lost.
michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
I'm trying to figure out if you are funny, sarcastic or just immature. I'm thinking it's the latter. Firing the coach only in this situation is like slapping a bandaid on an amputated limb. A nice attempt at fixing the problem, but it's still gonna bleed out.
michiganmidge
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Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
Neither have I. Even under the Borek years. I will laugh at YOU (well, maybe not you specifically, but rather, you figuratively) the stubborn posters on this board who don't want to discuss the problem any further than the coaching change. The AD has a critical role to play, and she has not done her job. Not for many years. How many chances does SHE get????? Any attempts at surveying the crowd during that last home series were posturing - plain and simple. Remember, there's a new prez coming town!
Neither have I. Even under the Borek years. I will laugh at YOU (well, maybe not you specifically, but rather, you figuratively) the stubborn posters on this board who don't want to discuss the problem any further than the coaching change. The AD has a critical role to play, and she has not done her job. Not for many years. How many chances does SHE get????? Any attempts at surveying the crowd during that last home series were posturing - plain and simple. Remember, there's a new prez coming town!
Re: LSSU Lakers 2014 off season thread
My understanding through posts by Mr. 3dognight were that there was additional funding put into the budget for recruiting, goalie camps, advertising and a fundraising match. Aslo, there was effort put in by all the A.D.'s and presidents to merge what was left of the CCHA and WCHA. Also, Coach Roque was given an extended contract a few years ago. I think this is specific or was that question only for Mr. Bill.
I can't help but want to look back and read all the posts by people that tried to warn us about what went on behind the scenes. An overdo decision was made to make a change. It is almost unanimously supported by everyone involved with Laker Hockey, even the players from what I have been told. Is your group going to continue this until the A.D. is let go? Seems to me the shoe is on the other foot now and we have a new villian poster. Mr. Truth must be grinning ear to ear.
My understanding through posts by Mr. 3dognight were that there was additional funding put into the budget for recruiting, goalie camps, advertising and a fundraising match. Aslo, there was effort put in by all the A.D.'s and presidents to merge what was left of the CCHA and WCHA. Also, Coach Roque was given an extended contract a few years ago. I think this is specific or was that question only for Mr. Bill.
I can't help but want to look back and read all the posts by people that tried to warn us about what went on behind the scenes. An overdo decision was made to make a change. It is almost unanimously supported by everyone involved with Laker Hockey, even the players from what I have been told. Is your group going to continue this until the A.D. is let go? Seems to me the shoe is on the other foot now and we have a new villian poster. Mr. Truth must be grinning ear to ear.
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