LSSU Laker Hockey

[peten16]

Re: LSSU Laker Hockey

Anzalone IS a legend and always will be for building Lake State. However the remainder of his career shows he is not Jeff Jackson, Ron Mason, or even Rick Comley.

One thing I recall reading time and again back in those days was how integral a role that JJ played in recruiting those players that helped the Lakers win in late 80's and early 90's. Jackson came to Anzalone with close ties to Metro Detroit junior hockey particularly the NAHL teams down there. Anzalone, being from NY, clearly did not have that knowledge or network to really capitalize on the talent down there. Therefore LSSU's success was always linked to Jackson.

 

[LSSULaker889294]

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LOL, Neil Diamond pwns Truth Squid again.

 

[PerkyforPrez]

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Schofield scored the winning goal today for the crunch.

I heard that Roques contract is up the end of may or begining of june and that seems to be around the time that Shawhan was let go so it is possible. Now i think he has had his chance and does not seem to have what it takes to be a head coach the proof is in the pudding. I just have a bad feeling that he will be back and if he does then we may need to start emailing Dr. Mclain. I can't hardly believe that JR has powerful friends is the reason he is safe from being let go, every one that i talk to agree he has got to go.

 

[Truth Serum]

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Schofield scored the winning goal today for the crunch.

I heard that Roques contract is up the end of may or begining of june and that seems to be around the time that Shawhan was let go so it is possible. Now i think he has had his chance and does not seem to have what it takes to be a head coach the proof is in the pudding. I just have a bad feeling that he will be back and if he does then we may need to start emailing Dr. Mclain. I can't hardly believe that JR has powerful friends is the reason he is safe from being let go, every one that i talk to agree he has got to go.

You might want to talk to the people that are putting up this money for the Norris Center expansion and the strings that go along with it. Nothing is going to change, nothing.

 

[PerkyforPrez]

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But what has he done ? His record speaks for it's self along with the inconsistant teams play.

 

[Truth Serum]

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But what has he done ? His record speaks for it's self along with the inconsistant teams play.

He has done nothing but make excuses and has the same product now for six years. Have you ever listened to him on the coaches show? You could replay that from 2006-2011 and it would be the exact same show. A bounce here, doing the right things, its unfair, its hard, seeing eye goals, keep working hard, etc etc etc.

He has strategically allied himself with just enough people at the University, around town and in the media. He has his supporters on here. I wouldn't go as far as Truth Squad and say they are all blind sheep, but there are those with a blatant agenda to support Roque at any cost and ridicule those who speak out against him. I think everyone on here knows who they are.

There is either something he can use as a trump card to save his job, or there is something with these donors and Roque that is keeping him here. Because it does not make any sense to say his job performance, and actions off the ice, warrant another year, after failing the previous six.

Tech took 8 years to fire their guy. The Lakers lost to them this year. Roque is going to be on year 7 and the Lakers are very close to becoming Michigan Tech, if they haven't achieved that distinction already. Thing is the longer he stays the less people start to care because they know what to expect, or what not too.

 

[peten16]

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There is either something he can use as a trump card to save his job, or there is something with these donors and Roque that is keeping him here. Because it does not make any sense to say his job performance, and actions off the ice, warrant another year, after failing the previous six.

What's he doing "off the ice"?

 

[Laker54]

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LOL. Great one.

 

[Bill]

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I've only been here for a short time but I think this forum will be missing something valuable if you really do decide to leave. While I don't always agree with you, you do bring a different viewpoint that nobody else on the forum will bring up.

Truth Squad's viewpoint can be summed up thusly:

1. He/she worships Frank Anzalone.

2. He/she despises Jim Roque.

3. Anyone who posts regularly on this thread is expected to spend most of their time ripping Jim Roque. If they don't, they are considered a defender of or an apologist for Jim Roque.

 

[Laker Dude]

Re: LSSU Laker Hockey

Schofield scored the winning goal today for the crunch.

I heard that Roques contract is up the end of may or begining of june and that seems to be around the time that Shawhan was let go so it is possible. Now i think he has had his chance and does not seem to have what it takes to be a head coach the proof is in the pudding. I just have a bad feeling that he will be back and if he does then we may need to start emailing Dr. Mclain. I can't hardly believe that JR has powerful friends is the reason he is safe from being let go, every one that i talk to agree he has got to go.

Back when Schawhan did not have his contract renewed, his contract expired in the beginning of June. However, I think it was announced around the beginning of April that year that his contract would not be renewed.

 

[Buck LeVasseur]

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Truth Squad's viewpoint can be summed up thusly:

1. He/she worships Frank Anzalone.

2. He/she despises Jim Roque.

3. Anyone who posts regularly on this thread is expected to spend most of their time ripping Jim Roque. If they don't, they are considered a defender of or an apologist for Jim Roque.

That may be the case, but I think it's hard to argue the root of his idea. I'd agree that his means of expressing it could use some refinement, however, his opinion does have merit and grounds to stand on. Frank Anzalone (along with Mason, Jackson, Comley) are the men who put Lake Superior hockey on the map and made the program into one of the historic greats. Jim Roque has done nothing to warrant seven years on the job. Everyone can see that the program is trending downwards and is a far cry from what it used to be. And there are quite a few apologists for Roque. I've talked to many employees at the University who are ardent supporters of Roque. He is gifted at saying the right things to the media and controlling the message. I think Truth Squad has just gone off the deep end trying to get his point across. If I felt that passionately about something and my efforts proved futile for that many years I'd probably start losing it too. There really isn't a single, legitimate, hockey-based argument that can be made as to why Roque should keep his job.

 

[sm2pk]

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Politics even play into college hockey and Roque has enough of the right backing to stay no matter how many 20 game losing seasons they have.

 

[Truth Serum]

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That may be the case, but I think it's hard to argue the root of his idea. I'd agree that his means of expressing it could use some refinement, however, his opinion does have merit and grounds to stand on. Frank Anzalone (along with Mason, Jackson, Comley) are the men who put Lake Superior hockey on the map and made the program into one of the historic greats. Jim Roque has done nothing to warrant seven years on the job. Everyone can see that the program is trending downwards and is a far cry from what it used to be. And there are quite a few apologists for Roque. I've talked to many employees at the University who are ardent supporters of Roque. He is gifted at saying the right things to the media and controlling the message. I think Truth Squad has just gone off the deep end trying to get his point across. If I felt that passionately about something and my efforts proved futile for that many years I'd probably start losing it too. There really isn't a single, legitimate, hockey-based argument that can be made as to why Roque should keep his job.

You are right on Buck that is why the Roque apologists cannot come up with reasons to keep him around for a now seventh year, they just go after those that are critical and try to control the message talking about anything but what is going on right now. Go back and listen to the coaches show and the excuses and spin that the coach and Crawford put on everything.

The league reprimand on Roque's actions after a game last season and his treatment on an official, and his subsequent filing of a "police report" was not addressed and basically covered up. Think this would have happened in a credible market or without controlling the message? If you aren't a conspiracy theorist you would at least find that odd.

Like you said, Roque has done nothing to warrant more time, he has had his time, over six years, and he has failed, and more and more people are giving up on Laker hockey because they know exactly what to expect with Jim Roque at the helm. Throw the Big 10 schools out of the league in a few years, and more of the same product on the ice, and actions off it, and no money for renovations or strings along with that money, will keep the fans happy or at some point, even caring.

The people that I know and am in touch with up at LSSU and in the Soo are saying Roque isn't going anywhere for a while. Certain things are more important than wins and losses right now. Renovations in the next few years do not include the current head coach.

Can anyone give a reason to give Jim Roque another couple of years that doesn't include blaming someone or something else?

 

[Bill]

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That may be the case, but I think it's hard to argue the root of his idea. I'd agree that his means of expressing it could use some refinement, however, his opinion does have merit and grounds to stand on. Frank Anzalone (along with Mason, Jackson, Comley) are the men who put Lake Superior hockey on the map and made the program into one of the historic greats. Jim Roque has done nothing to warrant seven years on the job. Everyone can see that the program is trending downwards and is a far cry from what it used to be. And there are quite a few apologists for Roque. I've talked to many employees at the University who are ardent supporters of Roque. He is gifted at saying the right things to the media and controlling the message. I think Truth Squad has just gone off the deep end trying to get his point across. If I felt that passionately about something and my efforts proved futile for that many years I'd probably start losing it too. There really isn't a single, legitimate, hockey-based argument that can be made as to why Roque should keep his job.

I haven't seen anyone on here dispute the fact that Mason, Comley, Anzalone and Jackson put the Lakers on the map. Nor have I seen anyone on here post any rationale for why Roque should keep his job, despite the spin TS puts on it.

 

[Buck LeVasseur]

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You are right on Buck that is why the Roque apologists cannot come up with reasons to keep him around for a now seventh year, they just go after those that are critical and try to control the message talking about anything but what is going on right now. Go back and listen to the coaches show and the excuses and spin that the coach and Crawford put on everything.

The league reprimand on Roque's actions after a game last season and his treatment on an official, and his subsequent filing of a "police report" was not addressed and basically covered up. Think this would have happened in a credible market or without controlling the message? If you aren't a conspiracy theorist you would at least find that odd.

Like you said, Roque has done nothing to warrant more time, he has had his time, over six years, and he has failed, and more and more people are giving up on Laker hockey because they know exactly what to expect with Jim Roque at the helm. Throw the Big 10 schools out of the league in a few years, and more of the same product on the ice, and actions off it, and no money for renovations or strings along with that money, will keep the fans happy or at some point, even caring.

The people that I know and am in touch with up at LSSU and in the Soo are saying Roque isn't going anywhere for a while. Certain things are more important than wins and losses right now. Renovations in the next few years do not include the current head coach.

Can anyone give a reason to give Jim Roque another couple of years that doesn't include blaming someone or something else?

Which is a really poor way to look at things. Keeping a coach around because he has buddies who will help foot the bill for renovations is asinine, and something I would expect from this school. Money for the program wouldn't be an issue if the team were winning. The crowds would be more full and more donors (albeit smaller) would be giving money to the program. In this economy, not many people aside from buddies of the administration and coach, want to throw money at a sinking ship. Once I graduate in April and start earning income I'd like to give back to the program, however, I'm not going to start giving any money until I see a desire towards winning.

 

[Buck LeVasseur]

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I haven't seen anyone on here dispute the fact that Mason, Comley, Anzalone and Jackson put the Lakers on the map. Nor have I seen anyone on here post any rationale for why Roque should keep his job, despite the spin TS puts on it.

You and I both know that the second part is entirely false. I don't have the time at the moment to dig through threads but there have been numerous suggestions that Roque isn't the issue with the team and doesn't deserve to be fired.

 

[Bill]

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You and I both know that the second part is entirely false. I don't have the time at the moment to dig through threads but there have been numerous suggestions that Roque isn't the issue with the team and doesn't deserve to be fired.

I disagree. There are certainly other issues with Laker hockey than Jim Roque, funding being the big one, but I don't recall anyone on here saying Roque should keep his job. If you or anyone else can point out such a post, please do so. Don't fall into the TS paradigm. Just because someone isn't constantly criticizing Roque on this Forum doesn't mean that person is a Roque supporter.

 

[Truth Squad]

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You and I both know that the second part is entirely false. I don't have the time at the moment to dig through threads but there have been numerous suggestions that Roque isn't the issue with the team and doesn't deserve to be fired.

The Bill's and Neil's of this forum have simply no other card to play but to demean anyone critical of their friend Jim Roque.

It is what happens when your rise to power was suspect from the start. After six season they are getting very desperate.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

 

[Laker54]

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The league reprimand on Roque's actions after a game last season and his treatment on an official, and his subsequent filing of a "police report" was not addressed and basically covered up. Think this would have happened in a credible market or without controlling the message? If you aren't a conspiracy theorist you would at least find that odd.

There are many reasons Roque should not have his contract renewed. If for no other reason he should be let go because of his antics after the MSU game and subsiquent actions. I know quite a few employees of the University and think they are top shelf folks. Which is why I feel strongly about this issue. I don't want to get into the what ifs about it.

 

[Truth Squad]

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There are many reasons Roque should not have his contract renewed. If for no other reason he should be let go because of his antics after the MSU game and subsiquent actions. I know quite a few employees of the University and think they are top shelf folks. Which is why I feel strongly about this issue. I don't want to get into the what ifs about it.

I tried to listen to the coaches show the two weeks after Roque incident with the referee and the subsequent league reprimand and mention of him filing a police report. Their on-line feed wasn't working. When I went to the website for the rebroadcast they had one whole section "missing" on one (probably if they talked about it there it was) and the next week wasn't available at all. I think that says a lot about the players and people he has in his camp and blows away any credibility they have, along with Bill and Neil.

The Truth Is Out There.....