LSSU Laker Hockey

[LSSULaker889294]

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Nice comeback again tonight, nice to see Acton finally light the lamp. He's been a huge letdown this year. Kapalka hasn't been as sharp lately, just average this weekend. That puck should of never went in on first Bronco goal.

Lakers have to sweep BGSU and get a split at NMU. Anything less than 9/12 for the two series will be a failure.

EDIT: Five of the last six Laker home games have ended in a regulation tie and gone to a shootout. Crazy! Also looking at the standings, wow the CCHA is garbage this year.

 

[DopeyBaker]

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Also looking at the standings, wow the CCHA is garbage this year.

What do you mean by this statement? Seven of the top 25 teams in most DI rankings are from the CCHA.

 

[DopeyBaker]

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6 wins in 24 games and 9th place. You people should be proud of this administration and this head coach.

And on the bright side, this Saturday the police weren't called by this coach for the poor officiating that you people up there are always complaining about being so unfair and against your little college. I am sure the Minister of Propaganda and all the coaches buddies swept that one under the rug. Calling the cops on a cop who is reffing a hockey game. Class act truly a class act.

Help run a coaching icon and legend out of town and keep this guy around year after year after year while the teams sinks further and further down the standings and make embarrassing quotes in the paper and blame everyone but yourself and total lack of coaching abilities and results. And you people are fine with it? I guess the conspiracy runs pretty deep up there.

10 wins isn't out of the question yet this season and that should entail a 4-year contract extension.

The Truth Is Out There....
TBA

Truth, you are sounding pretty whiney and pathetic. Plus, you slipped into your TruthSerum alias for a second there. You're slipping.

 

[sm2pk]

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Unless the lakers win big in their last 10 games,just going to be another season with the team going nowhere.

 

[AnchorsAway]

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Judging from the fact that he attended prospect camps for the Rangers and Blackhawks I am far from the first person to suggest/realize this notion, but if I am a pro scout I am telling my personnel department to have Rick Schofield's phone number ready for as soon as he completes his final season with the Lakers...In addition to his solid numbers and good size, speed and hands he has shown a penchant for coming up big in the clutch moments...2 more game tieing goals with 30 and 28 seconds respectively, remaining in the game? By my count he has over a dozen game winning or overtime forcing goals in his career here, over half of which have come in the final minute of the game or in overtime, all of this on a team that has had a losing record since he's been here...just imagine how much bigger that number would be if he played on a winning team, not too mention the fact that he is without a doubt one of the top shootout performers in the CCHA....As I have only been following Laker hockey for a few years which pales in comparison to some on this board, I am far from the expert authority on the subject but I would be surprised if in most's opinion Schofield didn't go down as one of the top 2 or 3 clutch players who has ever skated around with the yellow anchor on his chest.

 

[michiganmidge]

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Judging from the fact that he attended prospect camps for the Rangers and Blackhawks I am far from the first person to suggest/realize this notion, but if I am a pro scout I am telling my personnel department to have Rick Schofield's phone number ready for as soon as he completes his final season with the Lakers...In addition to his solid numbers and good size, speed and hands he has shown a penchant for coming up big in the clutch moments...2 more game tieing goals with 30 and 28 seconds respectively, remaining in the game? By my count he has over a dozen game winning or overtime forcing goals in his career here, over half of which have come in the final minute of the game or in overtime, all of this on a team that has had a losing record since he's been here...just imagine how much bigger that number would be if he played on a winning team, not too mention the fact that he is without a doubt one of the top shootout performers in the CCHA....As I have only been following Laker hockey for a few years which pales in comparison to some on this board, I am far from the expert authority on the subject but I would be surprised if in most's opinion Schofield didn't go down as one of the top 2 or 3 clutch players who has ever skated around with the yellow anchor on his chest.

Schofield is da man ... I've thought this for awhile.

 

[Bill]

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Anyone else try to listen to the stream of the Laker Hockey Show this evening. Even with the volume cranked all the way up on my laptop, I can hear them talking but can't quite make out what is being said.

 

[PerkyforPrez]

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Anyone else try to listen to the stream of the Laker Hockey Show this evening. Even with the volume cranked all the way up on my laptop, I can hear them talking but can't quite make out what is being said.

Bill, I had the same problem with the radio show. The show last week was only slightly better.

 

[Laker Dude]

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Bill, I had the same problem with the radio show. The show last week was only slightly better.

I had the same problem. I did not have any problems last week though.

 

[Bill]

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I had the same problem. I did not have any problems last week though.

Last week the broadcast volume started really weak, but did get better fairly quickly. Tonight it stayed extremely weak.

 

[Truth Serum]

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Anyone else try to listen to the stream of the Laker Hockey Show this evening. Even with the volume cranked all the way up on my laptop, I can hear them talking but can't quite make out what is being said.

"We are right there the boys are working hard and we have to keep doing what we are doing and the breaks will come we have a lot of guys that are just a shot or two away from really breaking a game open we need to keep up the hard work and we are going to get those bounces we were right in those games and we played well and i thought deserved a better fate we are a bit snake bit right now and the calls are going against us and it isn't fair because we are a small school and the michigan's and western michigan's have all this recruiting money and we hear fans talk who really don't know what they are talking about because they aren't around these guys and there is no difference between us and western last weekend and it is only a matter of time before the pucks start going into the net and we get the breaks that all the other teams get and we are doing the right things and the wins will come this team is going to win a lot of games this year and gets better every game and are going to be the surprise team in the second half and a real darkhorse and the victory in the shootout on Saturday might be the thing that turns it around and these other teams have superior stick skills but we have a bunch of hard working guys and the recruits next year will really be something and the players on this team improve every year and we are right in the mix and i can't get down on the guys for not winning the wins will come."

 

[sm2pk]

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So far at this point of the season it has been another disappointment . Roques comment that the Lakers are going to surprise a lot of people with how many games they win this year has turned into another let down. In overall games,the Lakers have the fewest wins in the league and it is going to take some charge the last 10 games to salvage the season.

 

[DopeyBaker]

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So far at this point of the season it has been another disappointment . Roques comment that the Lakers are going to surprise a lot of people with how many games they win this year has turned into another let down. In overall games,the Lakers have the fewest wins in the league and it is going to take some charge the last 10 games to salvage the season.

What Roque comment are you talking about, sm2pk? When did he say that?

 

[backbencher]

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So far at this point of the season it has been another disappointment . Roques comment that the Lakers are going to surprise a lot of people with how many games they win this year has turned into another let down. In overall games,the Lakers have the fewest wins in the league and it is going to take some charge the last 10 games to salvage the season.

Why this disappointment ? How can you be surprised ?
Disappointment is about expectations. What made your expectations so hight this season ?
What made that comment more credible than the former ?

"If ya keep on doin' whatcha bin doin', you'll keep on gettin' whatcha bin gettin'."

As a matter of fact, the results are the same, as are the comments of the person in charge.
On this forum, week after week, except a few acrimonious statements based on personal experience (I guess), it is mostly candid complacency and blind devotion (to "The Team").

At this point, the Truth Serum style has become my preferred reading on the forum.
At least it is funny, well imitated and, for some people at least, food for thoughts.

Why is that so ? Is there a rule preventing people from taking a step back and think ?

I read something like "Roque fought for his boys, so I hope they will do the same for him" ... welcome to the Lakers, you probably arrived last week.
Don't you think Roque has other reasons to be stressed than just step up for justice ? (probably the least of his concerns).
Yes the players fought (they always do), but Roque was in the stands and another coach was behind the bench ... does it ring a bell ?
I hope nobody will blame Tim Christian for the loss (some other stuff was brought to light during the last weekend).

It looks as if we are playing the first episode of a TV series every week, and nothing happened before.
Fortunately, new fresh guys come in every year, many of them are good and they spark some hope early, but it doesn't take long before most of them decline, getting confused and loosing self-confidence.
A quick look at the performance of most players - and indeed goalies - over the last years, should at least raise questions about internal dynamics and leadership.
In a small town like soo, there can be no secret for those who want to understand; the answers are really at your fingertips, and they have been for long.

it is going to take some change the last 10 games to salvage the season.

When would you consider the season as "salvaged" ?

 

[sm2pk]

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What Roque comment are you talking about, sm2pk? When did he say that?

Early in the season in an interview with Crawford. A player also said same later in the season about the second half in an interview with Crawford. Was it last year that Roque said he expected a finish in the top 6 and we know how that went as well. What also is amazing to me is after 4 years of Borek so many on here had seen the writing on the wall with his continued coaching and yet 6 years into Roque and most are silent on the direction of the team.

 

[sm2pk]

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backbencher,why not just say what you really think instead of hoping what you wrote leads us to your conclusions. If you think Roque isn't a very good coach, just say it. If you think Roque takes players with decent talent and waste it,just say it. If you think a change is needed to take the team in a new direction, just say it

 

[backbencher]

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backbencher,why not just say what you really think instead of hoping what you wrote leads us to your conclusions.

sm2pk, it is not about what I think; it is what I hear, read and see. I am actually challenging my thoughts. If you (or others) can prove me wrong then fine.

backbencher,why not just say what you really think instead of hoping what you wrote leads us to your conclusions. If you think Roque isn't a very good coach, just say it. If you think Roque takes players with decent talent and waste it, just say it. If you think a change is needed to take the team in a new direction, just say it

You got it, until somebody brings additional useful information, what I have seen and been told make me think that beside being outwardly a nice guy, and certainly a good hockey expert, Roque badly lacks for essential leadership and interpersonal skills which are essential for the job.
Looking at the performance of the players prior to their arrival, and listening to them some years later, doesn't give an impression of growth, especially if you consider that some progress should come almost naturally.
Whether a change is needed or not, I can't tell as it depends on what the deal with administration is. It does not seem that we have the same concerns.
However, even if the status quo is good for them, there would be little risk in giving somebody else a chance. After all, Tim Christian was there when Roque was promoted, and the players would certainly buy it easily. I won't resume the discussion about Joe Shawhan, but I see several areas where he is ahead of Roque (I don't know of any where he is behind), so where is the risk ?
If the 6th spot was an objective, one has to admit that it is not met, and I don't see many alternatives to trying something else ... including the above obvious candidates.
I am looking forward to convincing arguments which make me doubt but that's what I think ... nothing personal.

 

[sm2pk]

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backbencher. I don't take anything as being personal . We are all fans and we have our opinions and we write them down here. Some of us have been fans since the 60s and others fairly new but all are entitled to their opinion and views. I think Roque is probably a hell of a good guy and I thought Borek the same but as coaching goes, the team has struggled under both . I think Shawhan could be a good fit for this team and I wonder also why does it seem so many players show less improvement each season.

I think of Casiani off the top of my head. How does the guy come in in his freshman year and ends up with 20 points on the season and next year 9 and this year so far just 5. I think we all get excited due to the fact we do see guys like Casiani come in and do so well his first year and than struggle to put up less than 10 points a season after that and he isn't alone in that area of showing a good first year and than less and less each year after. Is it coaching ? Not sure if any of us know. Is it just a team of players with a few good guys but not enough to make a difference . I don't know that either . That is why we debate and argue on here I guess. We all want to know what the main problem is but we don't and so we come here to vent or find answers.

 

[backbencher]

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I think Roque is probably a hell of a good guy

Absolutely, until you challenge his beliefs, or simply ask for explanations.

Beside other skills which can easilly be delegated, a successful coach has a vision and an ongoing two-ways communication (i.e. face to face discussions) with each player on the team, whether he plays 25 mns per game or sits out all the time.

It is essential for the team that each member understands how he is supposed to contribute to the plan, and is convinced that he is getting something in return (development, recognition, money etc.); it is also a simple question of human respect.
What about a team where players (There may be exceptions) never have a focused conversation with the coach, and some having the feeling that the coach doesn't see them at all (knowing that he may change his mind tomorrow is only a cold comfort).
Would you expect understanding and involvement ?

Admitting errors is not enough (specially when it is for the show, and only in favor of some). You need to show that you take action, including questioning yourself. Bad luck and small means cannot explain everything.

Some very successful coaches happen to be blamed for being tough on players (please don't resume a useless debate, as it would be irrelevant), but they are always recognized for being fair (no pets, no scapegoat), consistent (no permanent changing mind) and clear (explaining again if not understood).
Being tough is not a must, and properly empowered assistants can take care of almost any of the coach's tasks; but who has seen a coach succeeding without leadership.
When everyone resigns oneself to finding his own answers, wouldn't you expect some confusion ? (individual and collective).

I think of Casiani off the top of my head.

Just to mention one other, What about Pat Inglis; there seemed to be a consensus amongst his teammates that the coach destroyed him. Whether right or wrong, it is an indication that the attitude of the coach was neither shared nor understood.

Is it coaching ? Not sure if any of us know. Is it just a team of players with a few good guys but not enough to make a difference. I don't know that either . That is why we debate and argue on here I guess. We all want to know what the main problem is but we don't and so we come here to vent or find answers.

It is probably a combination of a lot of reasons, and being a small school is certainly one of them. But, if you had to make some improvements, you would not just sit and wait until you know the unique and unquestionable root problem.
You would probably want to do something, focusing on what you control, and preferably where you have identified obvious shortcomings, with the highest impact. Then you can fine tune addressing other issues.

But we are not deciding anything, except that buying is voting.
Does it make sense ?

 

[sm2pk]

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Inglis is an excellent example of a coach saying how the guy had NHL potential and than faded faster than a bolt of lightening . Monardo seems to have really stepped up his game but he says he worked all summer with a coach in Toronto who is excellent with developing players. if that is the case with Monardo,this coaching staff needs to find out what he does with players. At this point they have to try something different.