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LSSU Laker Hockey 2012-2013, Part 2

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Right. Because by the age of 10 it is clear which boys at the age of 20-22 will have the physical and mental traits needed to play at an elite level. Wake up parents, what they are selecting at the age of 10 (or younger) are parents willing to buy into a system that costs a ridiculous amount of money to purchase coaching and practice and games. A randomly chosen group of boys from a playground run through the same system would have the same or better results. It is a self fullfilling prophecy. It is the same sort of thinking that has parents in Manhattan (my sister in law included) thinking if they don't get their little darlings into the right preschool, they won't get into Yale. Lets face it, boys are AAA midget players primarily because they were AAA mite minors, not because they are more gifted. It is a system that more and more is pricing families out of hockey, and elite hockey in particular. "Hockey Academies?" - really? A bantam age boy that has the physical and mental make up to play in the NHL, who has played high quality house league hockey, will catch up to the average "travel" player in short time given the same experiences. Currently this boy has already quit playing, or never started. I understand and agree that family support, financial included, is essential to success of children, but lets not kid ouselves that this system selects the absolute best candidates for elite hockey.


I played House for most of my life -- back when Sault Hockey had a thriving house league program, and I did just fine. My father would tell me, "If you're good enough, they'll find you." They did. The advantage of House hockey is playing time, and lots of it, in an enviroment that encourages creative playing rather than forcing 9-year-olds into a coach-based strategic system geared toward winning games. It is this theory upon which winning Canadian systems like Tim-Bit hockey are built. More ice, more kids playing, more people involved, more opportunity to grow as a player. Also -- and not to put too fine a point on it -- more opportunity for poor kids to play without having to beg for hand-outs to pay for a AAA team. But of course that is just my opinion. I happen to agree that its a rigged system. Politics dominates.

So lets say I am a parent of a 9-year-old boy who wants to play hockey? Where does he go? "Sorry, your mom and dad should have starting spending thousands of dollars a year when you were age 4. Nine years old, sorry son, you're too late." I don't know . . . I just think we are not letting kids "play" hockey. But thats just my opinion. I think it heps explain the lack of quality flowing from the Soo vis-a-vis hockey players.

NOw, is the Soo a hockey town? Oh my, yes. With rare exceptions, there is hockey being played on virtualy every sheet of ice in this city almost every waking hour, on every sheet, seven days a week, all winter long -- and often all summer long too. Its a hockey-mad city. There are some amazing people who volunteer so much time and effort. Of course, there are some real nasty grinches out there too. There are some good coaches, and some bad coaches. And there are varying definitions of what constitutes a "good" coach and a "bad" coach. I would like to see more Soo kids go on to bigger and better hockey, fly the flag -- so to speak -- for the Soo. But anyone who has spent any amount of time in our fair city knows that there is a silent invisible but still very real grip of poverty on our population. Poverty not just of the bank-account, but in the mind too. And there is a real belief -- unspoken of course -- that young kids shouldn't try to raise above their station. This silent killer has stalked Soo kids for generations, at least since the Base closed and probably since the mines out west dried up. Its is a nasty disease, ad infects everyone. Why should hockey be any different. Its a tough place to raise kids -- if you want your kids to dream big dreams and attempt big things. There is always a few people, at every turn, who are way-too eager to grab you and drag you down. Anyhow, those are m two cents. I love this city, but I am not blind to some of its problems.
 
I played House for most of my life -- back when Sault Hockey had a thriving house league program, and I did just fine. My father would tell me, "If you're good enough, they'll find you." They did. The advantage of House hockey is playing time, and lots of it, in an enviroment that encourages creative playing rather than forcing 9-year-olds into a coach-based strategic system geared toward winning games. It is this theory upon which winning Canadian systems like Tim-Bit hockey are built. More ice, more kids playing, more people involved, more opportunity to grow as a player. Also -- and not to put too fine a point on it -- more opportunity for poor kids to play without having to beg for hand-outs to pay for a AAA team. But of course that is just my opinion. I happen to agree that its a rigged system. Politics dominates.

So lets say I am a parent of a 9-year-old boy who wants to play hockey? Where does he go? "Sorry, your mom and dad should have starting spending thousands of dollars a year when you were age 4. Nine years old, sorry son, you're too late." I don't know . . . I just think we are not letting kids "play" hockey. But thats just my opinion. I think it heps explain the lack of quality flowing from the Soo vis-a-vis hockey players.

NOw, is the Soo a hockey town? Oh my, yes. With rare exceptions, there is hockey being played on virtualy every sheet of ice in this city almost every waking hour, on every sheet, seven days a week, all winter long -- and often all summer long too. Its a hockey-mad city. There are some amazing people who volunteer so much time and effort. Of course, there are some real nasty grinches out there too. There are some good coaches, and some bad coaches. And there are varying definitions of what constitutes a "good" coach and a "bad" coach. I would like to see more Soo kids go on to bigger and better hockey, fly the flag -- so to speak -- for the Soo. But anyone who has spent any amount of time in our fair city knows that there is a silent invisible but still very real grip of poverty on our population. Poverty not just of the bank-account, but in the mind too. And there is a real belief -- unspoken of course -- that young kids shouldn't try to raise above their station. This silent killer has stalked Soo kids for generations, at least since the Base closed and probably since the mines out west dried up. Its is a nasty disease, ad infects everyone. Why should hockey be any different. Its a tough place to raise kids -- if you want your kids to dream big dreams and attempt big things. There is always a few people, at every turn, who are way-too eager to grab you and drag you down. Anyhow, those are m two cents. I love this city, but I am not blind to some of its problems.

I agree with you about the selfish, jealousness that permeates the Soo, I don't live there anymore but between my time at LSSU and spending time up there with my girlfriend (a Soo native) I have noticed that same theme that you speak of.

Although I don't have firsthand knowledge of the example I am about to use, I have been told by others that actually experienced it, that this type of situation exists in the Detroit school systems, all of the kids (for the most part) come from low income families and their futures all look quite bleak, and most resign to that fact at a young age, and stop trying in the classroom, as they see it as futile, start getting into trouble, etc. However when occasionally one of their peers decides to try to do well in school for a chance to make something of him/ herself and rise out of the poverty stricken situation they are constantly ridiculed for trying to do so. It's that "if it can't be good for me then I don't want it to be good for anyone else" line of thinking that poisons areas like the Soo.
 
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A local travel coach told me he intended to coach the same boys in hockey from age 9 until high school. So much for the integrity of tryouts. I could go on forever on this topic.

In the Metro Detroit area, it is said that if a player isn't playing AAA hockey by age 10, he may NEVER catch up with those who play AAA at a younger age. My
youngest son, Matt, started playing AAA at age 7 after 3 years of skating skills development and 1 year of house (6 years of age playing Squirt house).

These two quotes summarize what is wrong with hockey development in the state of Michigan and the culture that USA Hockey is trying to eradicate. Simply put, the culture is such that the so-called elite hockey players are chosen by age 10. This is absolute lunacy. The concept of AAA hockey is not necessarily bad, but it starts too young, there's too much politics involved -- witness the recruiting for the next season that goes on even before the state playoffs are over, and there are a lot of players that are selected year in and year out just because that have been deemed "AAA" players at an early age. Fortunately, there are a greater number of players from Michigan high school programs (even in metro Detroit) and other avenues that are advancing to USHL and NAHL teams and eventually to NCAA teams so that the "late bloomers" with the necessary athletic ability still have a chance.
 
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With the increased funding for the program, recruiting is expanding. Tim Christian just spent several days looking at kids in the AJHL; in the past we normally attended the early season AJHL showcase, but I think that's about it. Doug Laprade is heading to the BCHL to look at kids there and that's pretty much new territory for us.
 
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With the increased funding for the program, recruiting is expanding. Tim Christian just spent several days looking at kids in the AJHL; in the past we normally attended the early season AJHL showcase, but I think that's about it. Doug Laprade is heading to the BCHL to look at kids there and that's pretty much new territory for us.


Love to hear this news. This is a direct result of increased funding. And its great for the program.
 
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As its stands now, we have 6 new players lined up for next season and we have 4 departing seniors. The current roster size is 26 which is the number Roque has indicated he likes.
 
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I agree, especially considering how many forwards we've already recruited for next season.

That's a good point, but what if Kapalka is still here next season with Marble coming in? Would the Lakers carry four goalies or could Ravn be cut from the team?
 
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That's a good point, but what if Kapalka is still here next season with Marble coming in? Would the Lakers carry four goalies or could Ravn be cut from the team?
I think Roque was hoping Kapalka would have a banner season, turn pro, and that would alleviate Roque of the potential 4 goalie issue next season. If Kapalka comes back, someone suggested that they could redshirt Marble; maybe so, but I don't know how Marble feels about that possibility. Is Marble willing to do that? Is Marble counting on hockey scholarship money next season? If all 4 goalies are here, how much scholarship money will be divided up between them. I doubt Ravn is getting much if any, but that still might leave the other 3 guys. Normally only 2 goalies are going to get much scholarship money. If we have all 4 guys here at the start of next season, I guess Roque could cut Ravn but if Marble doesn't want to be redshirted, you still have an issue of 3 goalies expecting a good chunk of scholarship money and all wanting playing time and none of them recruited to be a #3 goalie. Maybe Marble would be OK sitting out most all of the time since he would be a freshmen while the other guys are seniors, and he knew they would be gone the following season. Maybe Marble is a very good student and will be able to get academic scholarship money, thus not needing to tie up hockey scholarship money. I don't know.
 
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Clubber Lang awaits us in Oxford.

Wish he was wrong.

I am hoping this is Balboa-Lang II . . . but we all have the fear that Mickey might be gasping for air and clutching his heart in the hall by the Laker locker-room, ala the wipe-out of Lang-Balboa I.
 
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