The 6-0 prediction is just a gut feeling I have. I hope it's a bigger blowout.
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Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
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jcarter7669
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UVM Cat in Texas
Now UVM Cat in Georgia
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
You should? Really?!?!? Based on what, the general consensus entering the season that Lowell was a good team? Certainly nothing has happened during the season, good for Lowell or bad for UVM, to support your conclusion. In fact, if you look at things like stats, games played, schedule, and the fact that UVM will be the home team for this series, one can make a pretty good case that we "should" win both games.
VermontFan
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Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
Markison and Brickley will be back in the lineup on Friday night!
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...2/RSS03?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Markison and Brickley will be back in the lineup on Friday night!
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...2/RSS03?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
Lowell's got a better GF, GA, tougher SOS, and better PK than Vermont. UVM has a better PP. Lowell has the same number of wins in HE play (in 3 less games) than UVM, and five of the six losses for Lowell in HE play are against the #1 and #2 teams (pretty pathetic losses in most cases). Vermont is 4-5 at home and Lowell is 5-3 on the road.
I've stayed out of the trash talk, but I'd be curious to know which numbers show that UVM "should" win both games?
Lowell's got a better GF, GA, tougher SOS, and better PK than Vermont. UVM has a better PP. Lowell has the same number of wins in HE play (in 3 less games) than UVM, and five of the six losses for Lowell in HE play are against the #1 and #2 teams (pretty pathetic losses in most cases). Vermont is 4-5 at home and Lowell is 5-3 on the road.
UVM Cat in Texas
Now UVM Cat in Georgia
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
I don't have the time or inclination to research this, but we've been pretty solid in recent games (last 6 or 7), including a convincing win against the number 12 or 13 team in the country. Our bad losses have come against top teams (Minnesota, UNH, BU) and we've been very competitive in most every other loss, including the other game against Minnesota and a loss to Dartmouth in which we had the better of the play. You guys have also been solid recently, but some of those wins have come against weak teams (Bentley & Clarkson). Moreover, regardless of records, I think it's always an advantage to be playing at home. I wasn't trying to start a flame fest (and I'm still not)--my point was merely that I don't think it's as much a certainty that Lowell will win both games as the poster seemed to suggest. You may well win both game, but I don't think there's reason to think you "should" win both games.
UVM Cat in Texas
Now UVM Cat in Georgia
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
Funny the article didn't mention what Markison's injury was. A couple of weeks ago, someone in our thread said they thought it was a back injury. Why the big secret?
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
Never good to tell the other team how to go after a injured player.
Never good to tell the other team how to go after a injured player.
bottomdweller
Where my dogsies at?
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
If Lowell's offense shows up this weekend and they get the same D/G as they have been in the past few games, they really should win both games. I don't think they'll win them both by a lot, but a one goal and two goal win wouldn't surprise me.
If Lowell's offense shows up this weekend and they get the same D/G as they have been in the past few games, they really should win both games. I don't think they'll win them both by a lot, but a one goal and two goal win wouldn't surprise me.
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
Lowell has 7 losses on the season. 6 of those loses came to teams currently ranked #3, #4 and #9 in the country. So if who you lost to suddenly matters for spit (and hint: it doesn't), Lowell has had the tougher schedule of the two by far. But since Vermont fans rarely take my word for anything, let's look at the PWR SOS rankings:
Lowell: 8th
Vermont: 25th
So why should Lowell win both games? They're more talented. Across the board, from net to starting defense to the top 6 forwards, Lowell has more talent. And I don't think it's really close. I'm sure you do, and that's your right, of course. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even if it's wrong.
Predicting a sweep by any team in any series is always a crap shoot. If I'm predicting with my head, I think Lowell and Vermont skate to a 2-2 tie on Friday, and the River Hawks take out the 'Cats on Saturday, say 4-1 with an ENG. If I'm predicting with my gut, I think Lowell wins 6-2 on Friday and Vermont forfeits the game on Saturday, the players so terrified at the proposition of facing another shift against Ruhwedel that they mutiny. Can't blame them.
Lowell has 7 losses on the season. 6 of those loses came to teams currently ranked #3, #4 and #9 in the country. So if who you lost to suddenly matters for spit (and hint: it doesn't), Lowell has had the tougher schedule of the two by far. But since Vermont fans rarely take my word for anything, let's look at the PWR SOS rankings:
Lowell: 8th
Vermont: 25th
So why should Lowell win both games? They're more talented. Across the board, from net to starting defense to the top 6 forwards, Lowell has more talent. And I don't think it's really close. I'm sure you do, and that's your right, of course. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even if it's wrong.
Predicting a sweep by any team in any series is always a crap shoot. If I'm predicting with my head, I think Lowell and Vermont skate to a 2-2 tie on Friday, and the River Hawks take out the 'Cats on Saturday, say 4-1 with an ENG. If I'm predicting with my gut, I think Lowell wins 6-2 on Friday and Vermont forfeits the game on Saturday, the players so terrified at the proposition of facing another shift against Ruhwedel that they mutiny. Can't blame them.
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
Can always count on Pat to stick both feet and hands into his mouth.
Yes UML has played a tougher schedule but thats because they have played more vs BC/UNH which isnt because they had more guts its just
the way the schedules came out. And like I said before you may have played several tough teams but only Vermont has actually BEAT one
of those high ranked teams. Losing to good teams doesnt make you a better team. And that still doesnt explain how such a great team
that was supposed to be so good couldnt beat a VT team that wasnt supposed to be good and lost so much in the off season. That tie was
more like a loss.
Can always count on Pat to stick both feet and hands into his mouth.
Yes UML has played a tougher schedule but thats because they have played more vs BC/UNH which isnt because they had more guts its just
the way the schedules came out. And like I said before you may have played several tough teams but only Vermont has actually BEAT one
of those high ranked teams. Losing to good teams doesnt make you a better team. And that still doesnt explain how such a great team
that was supposed to be so good couldnt beat a VT team that wasnt supposed to be good and lost so much in the off season. That tie was
more like a loss.
UVM Cat in Texas
Now UVM Cat in Georgia
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
Good post. Right now, I feel like there are 3 teams in HE that should beat us (BC, BU & UNH). Although the others may have an edge on us in certain statistical categories or other metrics used to predict success (or us on them), I really believe those games are up for grabs. Maybe I'll add Lowell to the list of 3 after this weekend, but as I said earlier in the thread, I see this one as a split.
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
I agree with the rest of your post, but this line makes no sense. I was thoroughly disappointed in that first game, and yes, it felt like a loss. But in any one game, especially in hockey, a goalie can win/lose a game for you. Hoffman played very well, and the chances that were out there, Lowell just didn't take. You can't really use one game to help prove your theory on a team.
Re: Lowell @ UVM - Jan 11-12
I love the 'don't have time or inclination' line; why bother with facts?
Anyhow, my take is two close games, Lowell has the talent to take 3 or 4 points but the big question is will that talent show up in the play on the ice for more than a few minutes per game. That, in a nutshell, has been the reason for our record so far this year.
G'luck to both teams, hope for a clean, injury-free and fun-to-watch game from both sides. Gotta go hop in the car to make my way north.
Bet he disagrees with you on this
I love the 'don't have time or inclination' line; why bother with facts?
Anyhow, my take is two close games, Lowell has the talent to take 3 or 4 points but the big question is will that talent show up in the play on the ice for more than a few minutes per game. That, in a nutshell, has been the reason for our record so far this year.
G'luck to both teams, hope for a clean, injury-free and fun-to-watch game from both sides. Gotta go hop in the car to make my way north.
John_Fuller
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Interesting game. Very even play for much of it.
Lowell capitalized enough on the power play but UVM really took away our two-man advantages with multiple clears each time.
I think we got a couple gifts on the calls but most were legit. I hope they keep that up tomorrow
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Lowell capitalized enough on the power play but UVM really took away our two-man advantages with multiple clears each time.
I think we got a couple gifts on the calls but most were legit. I hope they keep that up tomorrow
.