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LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Without Eko, Walt, Michael, etc. because they all hate black people.
Unless they already went into their own heaven or some such business.
Without Eko, Walt, Michael, etc. because they all hate black people.
Unless they already went into their own heaven or some such business.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Michael is stuck on the island.
Eko...who knows? He was a very religious person, one could argue that the FSU is a form of Purgatory. Eko passed on long before everyone else.
Walt could still be alive. But his life wasn't nearly as affected as everyone else.
Michael is stuck on the island.
Eko...who knows? He was a very religious person, one could argue that the FSU is a form of Purgatory. Eko passed on long before everyone else.
Walt could still be alive. But his life wasn't nearly as affected as everyone else.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
As my girlfriend pointed out, the solution was to unplug and replug in the island, much like they did the vending machine.
As my girlfriend pointed out, the solution was to unplug and replug in the island, much like they did the vending machine.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
I hope no one is upset because they felt like they could have explained some of the mysteries of the island more. Some things, I think, were meant to be left ambigious.
Plus... well... you know... no one should really want to learn about Midichlorians, dude. Those items are usually best left unsaid.
I hope no one is upset because they felt like they could have explained some of the mysteries of the island more. Some things, I think, were meant to be left ambigious.
Plus... well... you know... no one should really want to learn about Midichlorians, dude. Those items are usually best left unsaid.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Here's my take....
The island was real. However you want to define that- it was capable of time travel and movement. Things that happened there did happen.
The reason I mention this was the ending exchange between Hurley and Ben- who complimented each other on being #1 and #2. And I really liked Ben at the end, how he explained to Hurley that HE could define what the rules were, since he was the new Jacob. So they could leave as they please.
Because of that, as Michael explained- he was stuck on the island, in the middle world, haunting the island for his past sins- which is why he was not in the church.
I'll go out on a limb and say that Walt wasn't there since he was not THAT personally significant to anyone but Locke. For the rest of them, he could have basically been Seat 28b.
OTOH, I do think that Mr Eko should have been there, as he was just as important as Rose and Bernard were to the originals- even though they survived on the island. Interesting to note- I'll wager a bet that they stayed??
The alternate was the do-over opportunity- some did more than others to really re-do their trip back- like Jack having a kid, or Hurley being the luckiest guy in the world. Some just to deny what you did, kate. But it was the meeting point to move to their afterlife.
So taking the cork out took away everyone's "powers" or reset the entire island? (loved the machine reference- that was sweet!!!) Richard was free to live and die, Jacob and MIB lost both rules and powers so that they could directly fight each other and die by alternate means- say being shot by a gun.
Of the Kimmel endings, only the first and the last were that funny to me- I didn't get the reference to the sopranos, since I never watched it. Although, the Newhart ending was pretty predictable. The Survivor one was actually pretty funny, since I kind of thought that Lost was loosely based on Survivor when I first tuned to it- took but a few min to end that thinking.
I'm happy.
It was great conversing with you all about this show, BTW!!!
Here's my take....
The island was real. However you want to define that- it was capable of time travel and movement. Things that happened there did happen.
The reason I mention this was the ending exchange between Hurley and Ben- who complimented each other on being #1 and #2. And I really liked Ben at the end, how he explained to Hurley that HE could define what the rules were, since he was the new Jacob. So they could leave as they please.
Because of that, as Michael explained- he was stuck on the island, in the middle world, haunting the island for his past sins- which is why he was not in the church.
I'll go out on a limb and say that Walt wasn't there since he was not THAT personally significant to anyone but Locke. For the rest of them, he could have basically been Seat 28b.
OTOH, I do think that Mr Eko should have been there, as he was just as important as Rose and Bernard were to the originals- even though they survived on the island. Interesting to note- I'll wager a bet that they stayed??
The alternate was the do-over opportunity- some did more than others to really re-do their trip back- like Jack having a kid, or Hurley being the luckiest guy in the world. Some just to deny what you did, kate. But it was the meeting point to move to their afterlife.
So taking the cork out took away everyone's "powers" or reset the entire island? (loved the machine reference- that was sweet!!!) Richard was free to live and die, Jacob and MIB lost both rules and powers so that they could directly fight each other and die by alternate means- say being shot by a gun.
Of the Kimmel endings, only the first and the last were that funny to me- I didn't get the reference to the sopranos, since I never watched it. Although, the Newhart ending was pretty predictable. The Survivor one was actually pretty funny, since I kind of thought that Lost was loosely based on Survivor when I first tuned to it- took but a few min to end that thinking.
I'm happy.
It was great conversing with you all about this show, BTW!!!
WeWantMore
New member
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Inconsequential I guess, but what was Hurley's job? I mean, who was left to protect the island from?
Inconsequential I guess, but what was Hurley's job? I mean, who was left to protect the island from?
DisplacedCornellian
Let's Go Red!
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
I think Eko moved on already, with his brother. I don't think he had the connection with the island and the Losties that the others did.
Those who "awoke" in the alt-timeline/limbo were those to whom the time on the Island was the most meaningful time of their lives. Walt and Aaron weren't there because presumably they lived their own lives, in which the island was not a major factor. Same for Jin and Sun's child.
OTOH, I do think that Mr Eko should have been there, as he was just as important as Rose and Bernard were to the originals- even though they survived on the island. Interesting to note- I'll wager a bet that they stayed??
I think Eko moved on already, with his brother. I don't think he had the connection with the island and the Losties that the others did.
Those who "awoke" in the alt-timeline/limbo were those to whom the time on the Island was the most meaningful time of their lives. Walt and Aaron weren't there because presumably they lived their own lives, in which the island was not a major factor. Same for Jin and Sun's child.
WeWantMore
New member
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Anyone think you guys might be overthinking the Eko angle? Maybe he just didn't want to come back on the show
Also, what did Juliet mean when she told Miles that "it worked"?
Anyone think you guys might be overthinking the Eko angle? Maybe he just didn't want to come back on the show
Also, what did Juliet mean when she told Miles that "it worked"?
jmh
win or lose, we booze
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Both good points.
DisplacedCornellian
Let's Go Red!
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Well, that's entirely possible, but where's the fun in that explanation?!
I think the explosion allowed her to briefly "flash" into the alt-timeline, a la Desmond. She just didn't realize what it was. She thought it was a reality in which the plane never crashed. She didn't realize until she met Sawyer in the last episode what it really was.
Anyone think you guys might be overthinking the Eko angle? Maybe he just didn't want to come back on the show
Well, that's entirely possible, but where's the fun in that explanation?!
I think the explosion allowed her to briefly "flash" into the alt-timeline, a la Desmond. She just didn't realize what it was. She thought it was a reality in which the plane never crashed. She didn't realize until she met Sawyer in the last episode what it really was.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
I am very annoyed for this exact reason. I felt the writers got lazy or out of ideas, or whatever and decided to leave questions open and focus on the relationships instead because even they couldn't answer them all. Sure it did make for some teary-eyed moments in bringing everyone together, but after it was all over there is still a giant *** left hanging about the island and many other things. I don't like these that are "open to interpretation" because no one really knows for sure and you can never be right or wrong about it. It's TV, so it should have been wrapped up much more neatly then that (except for the relationship aspect which they wrapped up very nicely.)
That being said I agree that the island was real life. Jack's end and the plane were the clinchers for that one. And I do think the LAX reality was a "purgatory" because they were able to move on once they had their revelation. They needed to spend time there to reconnect their relationships.
I am very annoyed for this exact reason. I felt the writers got lazy or out of ideas, or whatever and decided to leave questions open and focus on the relationships instead because even they couldn't answer them all. Sure it did make for some teary-eyed moments in bringing everyone together, but after it was all over there is still a giant *** left hanging about the island and many other things. I don't like these that are "open to interpretation" because no one really knows for sure and you can never be right or wrong about it. It's TV, so it should have been wrapped up much more neatly then that (except for the relationship aspect which they wrapped up very nicely.)
That being said I agree that the island was real life. Jack's end and the plane were the clinchers for that one. And I do think the LAX reality was a "purgatory" because they were able to move on once they had their revelation. They needed to spend time there to reconnect their relationships.
AMC
Registered User
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Whoever showed up. Until the people (Romans?) who brought Jacob and his brother, CJ Craig didn't have anyone to protect the island from either.
Plus aren't there some Others left?
Anyways, I think people are making too much of the heaven/hell/purgatory angle. They said at the end that there was no where, or when. I thought it was kind of like the "Constant" idea Bentham had. Desmond was his constant. When he was being moved through time because of too much electromagnetism or whatnot, he had to find Desmond to anchor himself to that time and place. At the end, to figure out how to get to the church, each Lostie had to find someone or something that anchored them to the rest of the group. Sawyer and Juliet had each other, Sun and Jin had their baby, Locke had his ability to walk, Sayid and Toenails had each other, Claire, Charlie and Kate had Aaron. It was their constant, that anchored them to where they were supposed to be, instead of the sideways alternate reality they were stuck in. There was no "pearly gates" or whatever.
Whoever showed up. Until the people (Romans?) who brought Jacob and his brother, CJ Craig didn't have anyone to protect the island from either.
Plus aren't there some Others left?
Anyways, I think people are making too much of the heaven/hell/purgatory angle. They said at the end that there was no where, or when. I thought it was kind of like the "Constant" idea Bentham had. Desmond was his constant. When he was being moved through time because of too much electromagnetism or whatnot, he had to find Desmond to anchor himself to that time and place. At the end, to figure out how to get to the church, each Lostie had to find someone or something that anchored them to the rest of the group. Sawyer and Juliet had each other, Sun and Jin had their baby, Locke had his ability to walk, Sayid and Toenails had each other, Claire, Charlie and Kate had Aaron. It was their constant, that anchored them to where they were supposed to be, instead of the sideways alternate reality they were stuck in. There was no "pearly gates" or whatever.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
I agree...I think what Juliet experienced as she was dying after the bomb blew up was the moment at the vending machine...which is why she told sawyer it worked.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Pretty much as expected with plenty of gaping holes remaining, but I was fine with how everything went until the credits rolled and they showed the crash site on the beach that looked like there were no survivors. Looked to me like there were no people, but crap everywhere and not cleaned up like it eventually was during the show. So while the rest of the episode had me thinking it was all "real", the final shot had me thinking they all died in the crash.
Pretty much as expected with plenty of gaping holes remaining, but I was fine with how everything went until the credits rolled and they showed the crash site on the beach that looked like there were no survivors. Looked to me like there were no people, but crap everywhere and not cleaned up like it eventually was during the show. So while the rest of the episode had me thinking it was all "real", the final shot had me thinking they all died in the crash.
M-HockeyNet
Does not drink Kool-Aid
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
Was I the only one who thought Hurley calling Ben a great #2 at the end was his way of calling Ben a big turd?
Oh, and if you missed Jimmy Kimmel Live after the show, they showed the "alternate" LOST endings
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Josh Holloway (Sawyer) has a new project, too
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Was I the only one who thought Hurley calling Ben a great #2 at the end was his way of calling Ben a big turd?
Oh, and if you missed Jimmy Kimmel Live after the show, they showed the "alternate" LOST endings
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Josh Holloway (Sawyer) has a new project, too
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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
I think they were quite clear that what happened on the Island actually happened.
There wouldn't be much for everyone else to do in the Alternaverse if they had all died without actually going through what they went through on the Island. Aaron is never born, Sawyer never meets Juliet, basically no one ever gets to know anyone else, etc.
I think they were quite clear that what happened on the Island actually happened.
There wouldn't be much for everyone else to do in the Alternaverse if they had all died without actually going through what they went through on the Island. Aaron is never born, Sawyer never meets Juliet, basically no one ever gets to know anyone else, etc.
Re: LOST Season 6 -- All Good Things Must Come To An End
The whole events of the series actually happened. Christian confirms this by saying "Some died before you, some died long after." Had they all died in the crash they would've all died at once.
The whole events of the series actually happened. Christian confirms this by saying "Some died before you, some died long after." Had they all died in the crash they would've all died at once.