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Just what IS "marriage" anyway?

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walrus said:
I think some folks believe people that want to get married in churches that do not believe in gay marriages will use the courts to get their marriage in that church. Simple as that.
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There is no way in hell that will happen. That would be in direct violation of the Constitution and everyone like me who supports Gay marriage WOULD NEVER support forcing a Church to perform a ceremony against their beliefs.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Norm of human history is a horrible standard.
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Who's talking standards? A norm is what it is. Or in this case was what it was since we're talking history. But, hey, that's how it works around here. Every takes a discussion sideways.
 
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Bob Gray said:
Who's talking standards? A norm is what it is. Or in this case was what it was since we're talking history. But, hey, that's how it works around here. Every takes a discussion sideways.
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Societal norms change. It's called progress.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
There is no way in hell that will happen. That would be in direct violation of the Constitution and everyone like me who supports Gay marriage WOULD NEVER support forcing a Church to perform a ceremony against their beliefs.
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25 years ago their was no way in hell gay marriage would ever be legal
 
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For all those worried this decision will somehow impact them (even though it won't) here is an option for you

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joecct said:
I lean towards Bob's view. After Christ confronted the mob about to stone the woman ("...cast the first stone"), he admonishes the woman to go and sin no more. Christ did not condone the sin, He just told the sinner to stop sinning.

If one believes that the homosexual act is a sin, then you want the person to stop to protect their immortal soul. But should the Christian (or other religion) do a hellfire and ****ation rant on that group or person? Nope. We were given free will to do what we want. Some of our choices are correct, and some are incorrect. We live with the consequences of these actions.

If a homosexual wanted my advice I would say, "Don't do it." But it is always their choice and the consequences (if any) are theirs.
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So being gay is a choice...right congrats on being completely out of touch.

Or did you mean to act on your gay feelings is a choice...congrats on being out of touch.

Just remember Jesus loves everyone...except fags, women, gentiles...etc.
 
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Bob Gray said:
apparently not obviously to some people. my bad for making that assumption.
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Societal norms do change. I'm sorry that it's uncomfortable for you, but they do. We progress as a species.
 
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5mn_Major said:
If a homosexual wanted my advice I would probably say, "Don't do it" also. But that's primarily because it makes no sense to me. As the son of God, Jesus could wordsmith his words very carefully...and the practice doesn't make His top 100.
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It amazes me that we can feel confident about what a man may have said two thousand years ago in a language few of us understand, reported as heresay, translated more than 1,500 years after the fact for the English power structure with a stake in controlling the beliefs of the masses, and shaped and manipulated by policymakers in Turkey three hundred years after he died--yet so many refuse to believe documentary proof that the current president was born in this country.

I'm not mocking or questioning your faith, 5mn, just marveling at how we all, as Justice Holmes said, "wager our salvation upon some prophesy based upon imperfect knowledge."

If a homosexual wanted my advice, I would say, "follow your heart." We are all fools, and life is to short to do otherwise.
 
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Bob Gray said:
You mean the norm of all of human history until the last handful of years?
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When is the norm in history and where? Being Gay was not invented in our lifetime. There are cultures where it has been acceptable over the centuries or where is just wasn't a big deal. Being a history buff this type of comment drives me wild. There is no norm. Things have never been static, different cultures have had different views and all cultures views change about many things. When we like the change it is progress (you can't sell your wife) and when we don't (interracial marriage) then it is the demise of the society. Same sex couples have lived together forever. Now they can say they are spouses instead of special friends.

burd said:
It amazes me that we can feel confident about what a man may have said two thousand years ago in a language few of us understand, reported as heresay, translated more than 1,500 years after the fact for the English power structure with a stake in controlling the beliefs of the masses, and shaped and manipulated by policymakers in Turkey three hundred years after he died--yet so many refuse to believe documentary proof that the current president was born in this country.

I'm not mocking or questioning your faith, 5mn, just marveling at how we all, as Justice Holmes said, "wager our salvation upon some prophesy based upon imperfect knowledge."

If a homosexual wanted my advice, I would say, "follow your heart." We are all fools, and life is to short to do otherwise.
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Word. You must spread.
 
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PS. All you hoohas who don't think it was a bad opinion all answered :p but did anyone who believes this is a bad opinion ever answer my question? What about the opinion is anti- religion?
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
You don't see the difference? I sure do. The difference is one is Constitutional and the other is not.
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I thought the constitution was a living document and therefore changes with time? I've heard that said over and over lately by certain powers in DC.
 
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Kind of absurd in a way that people feel compelled to have an opinion about every issue. I'm not opposed to same sex marriage, neither am I in favor of it. It's not really my business one way or the other. heterosexual marriage is in big trouble and i'd rather see energy and education directed toward strengthening the institution of the family, however it is constituted.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
And then the queers were made, and it was FABULOUS!!!, and the evening and the morning were the 8th day. :D
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:D

Man it is too bad Jesus hates queers...I mean they could have totally fixed up his cave and color coordinated the Raptor he rode around on ;)
 
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Nice to see people are so level-headed about this.

Fallout from the Supreme Court's DOMA ruling has been on display on the floor of the Pennsylvania House, where on Thursday an openly gay state representative asked colleagues to reprimand a member who had prevented him from speaking about the case.

Rep. Brian Sims, a Philadelphia Democrat, had attempted to address the House on Wednesday under "unanimous consent," but at least one member objected.

On Thursday, Sims, the first openly gay member elected to the House, stood under a different parliamentary rule to read from an interview Rep. Daryl Metcalfe, the conservative Republican from Cranberry, had given about the episode.

"I did not believe that as a member of that body that I should allow someone to make comments such as he was preparing to make that ultimately were just open rebellion against what the word of God has said, what God has said, and just open rebellion against God's law," Metcalfe had told WHYY of Philadelphia.
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