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Just what IS "marriage" anyway?

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Just liberals changing the subject. This (queer hitchins) is one of the very few issues that I actually agree with them on, and it makes me feel extremely dirty. I don't want to be associated with the libs in any way. My way out is, I think it is a fairly conservative concept to allow gays to marry, the government shouldn't be intruding on their lives either, and should be as small as possible.

To be fair, we do it to Bear Red on the D-I forum all the time. Actually, if anything, it's more of a libertarian point of view, where you may disagree with someone, but you defend their ability to do it. There's nothing wrong with that. And so what if you happen to agree with someone on something, yet disagree with them on most other things? That just goes to show that you're not some political troll like some of the Freddie Meyer wannabes on these threads.
 
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One person's "changing the subject" is another person's "having fun on an internet message board." But since some people have absolutely no sense of humor I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

OK everyone, stay on topic or else!
Guess you'll have to keep your Jesus horses to yourself!
 
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Oh, I came up with an analogy I like: marriage is to life as the bar exam is to law school. You spend months preparing for it and at the end you're incredibly stressed out, but hopefully you only ever have to do it once.
 
Re: Just what IS "marriage" anyway?

Just liberals changing the subject. This (queer hitchins) is one of the very few issues that I actually agree with them on, and it makes me feel extremely dirty. I don't want to be associated with the libs in any way. My way out is, I think it is a fairly conservative concept to allow gays to marry, the government shouldn't be intruding on their lives either, and should be as small as possible.
Maybe it would be a good idea if we stopped assuming every person should be a 'them' or 'us', labeled as a liberal or a conservative and actually listen to what they think. Most people aren't on one end of the bell curve or the other and shockingly have a wide variety of views depending on the subject. Bob and I agree whole heartedly on some things and absolutely not on others.
 
Re: Just what IS "marriage" anyway?

Oh, I came up with an analogy I like: marriage is to life as the bar exam is to law school. You spend months preparing for it and at the end you're incredibly stressed out, but hopefully you only ever have to do it once.

And if you're good enough, you can gain admission to many places.
 
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Maybe it would be a good idea if we stopped assuming every person should be a 'them' or 'us', labeled as a liberal or a conservative and actually listen to what they think. Most people aren't on one end of the bell curve or the other and shockingly have a wide variety of views depending on the subject. Bob and I agree whole heartedly on some things and absolutely not on others.

That takes too much time. You're clearly one of the lizard people.
 
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Again, people are now ok with human understanding coming from anywhere but religion. Somehow the possibility that religion could inform us in any way is just beyond the pale of possibility to many people.

Does this change the fact the same % of non-religious and religious folk would agree that murder is wrong and should be against the law? And any guess as to the source behind the vast majority of your strawman (honor killings) argument? (I'll give you a hint - it isn't secularism in America. :))
 
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Does this change the fact the same % of non-religious and religious folk would agree that murder is wrong and should be against the law? And any guess as to the source behind the vast majority of your strawman (honor killings) argument? (I'll give you a hint - it isn't secularism in America. :))
I think you have me confused with another poster. I haven't said anything about honor killings. Try resetting.
 
I think you have me confused with another poster. I haven't said anything about honor killings. Try resetting.

So you didn't read the post you responded to? Or is this just another one of your convenient dodges when being shown to not have a point?
 
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So you didn't read the post you responded to? Or is this just another one of your convenient dodges when being shown to not have a point?

No, he didn't say anything about honour killings. That was me. What is your issue, if any?
 
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Not all religious or spiritual people are as unforgiving as the examples you read in textbooks. What did you expect, the Spanish Inquisition? NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! :D

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The only religion I want making the rules for my country is Zeus...everyone else's Lord and Savior is lazy and not worth my time :D
 
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Nice try, Bob but obfuscation with duck and cover is your m.o. so not a surprise. Time to add you to ignore like Flag once and for all.
 
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