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Is It Time For Cc To Fire Scott Owens?

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Dirty said:
Maybe Aaron Marvin can teach them the rules. Mario tried to learn the rules from Aaron last year but that weenie linesman wouldn't let it happen. :(
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Sounds about right. Brett and Mario whine so frequently they should probably be playing ringette.
 
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Just think Kitty fans we're exactly two months away from RPI sweeping CC in the opening series at CSWA. Can't WAIT to hear the same old tired excuses from Scotty after the game.


FIRE SCOTTY OWENS!!!
 
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LackofSuCCess said:
Just think Kitty fans we're exactly two months away from RPI sweeping CC in the opening series at CSWA. Can't WAIT to hear the same old tired excuses from Scotty after the game.


FIRE SCOTTY OWENS!!!
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People like you shouldn't even be a fan. Your just a negative Nancy about everything. It must be tough for you to make it through the day. :rolleyes:
 
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http://www.gazette.com/articles/players-103018-potential-hockey.html

Loved last week's positive publicity for Colorado College and their hockey program. I for one am sick and tired of watching these lazy *** drunks go through the motions on the ice because their coach fails to instill discipline in his program. In addition to his theft of school equipment, failure to control drinking/other discipline issues was Brad Buetow's undoing at CC. Perhaps it will be Owens' too.

Lucia came in an instituted one of the strictest alcohol policies I've ever seen. And, rumor has it Mark Stuart was a big leader in terms of keeping that stuff in check--the results spoke for themselves.

Since then it's been downhill. At a minimum these players should be suspended for several series--using fake IDs and then being stupid enough to give their real names for a photo in the paper?!?! One wonders how they gained admission to CC anyway, unless of course, there are lower standards for athletes than other students.

FIRE SCOTTY OWENS!!!!
 
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I love how you think people listen to stark raving lunatics.
 
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How many factual errors can you have in one post? I think this DU fan is going for the record!
 
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Rich said:
How many factual errors can you have in one post? I think this DU fan is going for the record!
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I would love to hear the factual misrepresentations you believe are contained within this post. Brad was fired for his unethical conduct concerning financial matters and for losing control of his players. Owens too has lost control of his players--first Lampl and Patrosso with their sex tape/underage recruit scandal and now this latest incident.

Lucia was a strict disciplinarian in his tenure at CC--taking a team from worst to first.

And, unless Scotty has a captain with exceptional leadership skills the CC hockey team uses alcohol to excess. Now, in all fairness, this does not differentiate them from other college students, but I DO believe student athletes (particularly ones on scholarship) should be held to a higher standard.

The actions of these players are simply not defendable. And, I believe it's indicative of a larger problem within the program. If you don't believe me, try living by the CC hockey house on San Miguel...it's not a lot of fun.

Truth be told if CC's mediocrity on the ice was the best they were capable of I wouldn't complain, but it's not. Then, when you see off ice problems like the aforementioned ones it makes clear that a culture change is in order.

FIRE SCOTTY OWENS!!!


P.S. I'll concede that I have no knowledge about how an athlete's status affects his/her admissions process at CC.
 
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I would be willing to bet that significant underage drinking goes on with college hockey players at every hockey program in the nation on a weekly basis, despite all the educational programs, lectures, pledges and team warnings. It's law vs culture, and every college coach and AD sleeps uneasily, knowing they are only a phone call away from trouble at any given moment. CC is no different.

I hate the 21 year old drinking age - it's a stupid law. And the Gazette isn't helping anyone other than their coffers with a somewhat sensationalistic story.

But the law, stupid or not, says what they did was illegal, and the players put their own pleasure ahead of the known risk to their program. With the whole blackface thing, the Lampl sex party and now this, the bigger issue at CC seems to be that the players' still don't quite seem to grasp that they represent something larger than themselves, and that as D-I athletes, they must be held to a higher standard.
 
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LackofSuCCess said:
Lucia was a strict disciplinarian in his tenure at CC--taking a team from worst to first.
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There were issues while Lucia was here as well. Jason Cugnet, Chad Remackel and Jason Christopherson just to name a few.
 
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dave29 said:
There were issues while Lucia was here as well. Jason Cugnet, Chad Remackel and Jason Christopherson just to name a few.
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To the best of my memory Cugnet was kicked off the team by Lucia. The VP for student life found that Christopherson and the young lady involved both exhibited poor judgement, but that no misconduct had actually occurred. And, I have no idea about Remackel--honestly I'd like a refresher on that one--no memories of him being involved in anything bad.

Lucia also kicked Dan Peters off the team and I think one or two others.

FIRE SCOTTY OWENS!!!!
 
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LackofSuCCess said:
And, I have no idea about Remackel--honestly I'd like a refresher on that one--no memories of him being involved in anything bad.
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I believe Remackel was suspended for the first 10 games of his senior season for getting into a fight with another student who was not on the hockey team.
 
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Love the thread. Keep it coming.

Lets face it, the landscape changed when DU won the National Championships in '04 & '05. CC lost a recruiting edge that they had built over the previous 15 years.

That's not to say CC can't win in college hockey's ever changing landscape, but they needed to build on their advantages they possess over DU, MN, WI & UND. Unfortunately CC hasn't been able to hang on to key recruits and perhaps other recruits who did stick around for four years haven't progressed as expected.

CC needs to rebuild like DU did in the '90s. Go after the tried and true formula of mixing late bloomers, four-year student athletes and hard-working undersized players. The Canadian pipeline is drying up or at least slowing down, so they better get to work in the USHL & the rapidly emerging nontraditional areas.

It does seem like Scottie's coaching staff has been in a state of flux for the past seven years. Obviously building a top notch staff needs to be priority #1 if they are going to be able to turn this around.
 
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Hey - maybe DG or PS can help Owens out with some coacking tips? They seem to know everything... :)
 
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dggoddard said:
The CC Trophy Case speaks for itself.


No NC's since '57

Never won a Broadmoor Trophy.
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Wow - some girls don't know how to take a compliment. :o

But really – if you look at current WCHA coaches winning percentages with their current teams – Owens is pretty close to the top of that list. Post season performance has been lackluster but it’s hard to argue that he hasn’t coached the Tigers through a fair number of wins.
 
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Both CC and DU have done a very good job with talent - it's the mental and physical wear-and-tear that has hurt both programs in recent post seasons.

The physical wearing down is a combination of injuries and stamina, while the mental toughness required in the drive to win MacNaughton Cups has left both programs often spent by late March and April.

Given CC's limitations, I think Owen's has done a very good job in terms of winning consistently. But winning in the post season is a different animal.
 
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The way I look at it, in the regular season Coach Owens performs anywhere from very good to brilliant. Even if the team peaks early, they still have played good games down the stretch and performed good. Heck, there have been excellent DU teams which CC dismantled.

What Coach Owens does in the postseason is the big disappointment. Choke is not the word I'd use. More like DOA. CC doesn't even show up.

In the postseason, what makes a good coach win? Look around all the conferences and look at the teams that have won it all or came close with paper teams not the greatest and what elements of the coach pushes them over the top?
 
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