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Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
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bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
JJFP,
I'm not surprised about hearing nothing from the CCHA. And it's the AD's faults to a degree. Anastos was always all about Michigan/Michigan State, to the point where he bailed on the league to take a job at MSU. Inexplicably, when conference meetings took place in the spring, they simply promoted his assistant. The conference needed a new, outside voice to try to keep it as whole as possible and bring it through the most trying time since it was formed, and they flinched away from that, choosing the same old same old dependance on the "Big 2/Little everyone else" despite the rise of Miami and Notre Dame, recent struggle by almighty Michigan State, and the occasional appearance by NMU, UAF and WMU in recent years. And because of that, some of those athletic directors will probably have to explain why they don't have a hockey conference or maybe even a program anymore.
JJFP,
I'm not surprised about hearing nothing from the CCHA. And it's the AD's faults to a degree. Anastos was always all about Michigan/Michigan State, to the point where he bailed on the league to take a job at MSU. Inexplicably, when conference meetings took place in the spring, they simply promoted his assistant. The conference needed a new, outside voice to try to keep it as whole as possible and bring it through the most trying time since it was formed, and they flinched away from that, choosing the same old same old dependance on the "Big 2/Little everyone else" despite the rise of Miami and Notre Dame, recent struggle by almighty Michigan State, and the occasional appearance by NMU, UAF and WMU in recent years. And because of that, some of those athletic directors will probably have to explain why they don't have a hockey conference or maybe even a program anymore.
giwan
Really??!!
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
What it really shows is the lack of any power the conference commissioner has. I think it also shows just how lame they both are, more figure head then worthy business dealer. Compare them to Delaney, though you may not agree with Delaney he has increase B1G revenue and exposure.
What it really shows is the lack of any power the conference commissioner has. I think it also shows just how lame they both are, more figure head then worthy business dealer. Compare them to Delaney, though you may not agree with Delaney he has increase B1G revenue and exposure.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Absolutely. Delany's a farking *****, but he works his *** off to get the best deal for the schools that employ him.
Absolutely. Delany's a farking *****, but he works his *** off to get the best deal for the schools that employ him.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Ok, well, all I'm saying is you'll still get to go to away games that are drivable.
As for not being upset at Miami, it couldn't be that we've been screwed over so many times by the big conferences, and Notre Dame, in basketball and football could it? It couldn't be that we were in a power hockey conference, have reached some level of success on a national stage and then to have those same idiots threaten that? Yeah, we're pretty pleased that our administration is taking a stand and hitting back. It's good knowing we're going to do whatever it takes to avoid being yet another "mid-major" or BCS-have not in the flagship sport on campus (football and basketball tradition of success in the MAC notwithstanding).
Ok, well, all I'm saying is you'll still get to go to away games that are drivable.
As for not being upset at Miami, it couldn't be that we've been screwed over so many times by the big conferences, and Notre Dame, in basketball and football could it? It couldn't be that we were in a power hockey conference, have reached some level of success on a national stage and then to have those same idiots threaten that? Yeah, we're pretty pleased that our administration is taking a stand and hitting back. It's good knowing we're going to do whatever it takes to avoid being yet another "mid-major" or BCS-have not in the flagship sport on campus (football and basketball tradition of success in the MAC notwithstanding).
IrishHockeyFan
Still outranks his daughter
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
The Tribune FINALLY chimed in today, for what it was worth. But the article is just a collection of news already reported by CHN, USCHO, and a handful of other newspapers in the regions of the affected schools. They did throw in a few comments made by Swarbrick from a radio interview conducted weeks ago. Of course, those comments are now somewhat outdated because no one really saw a shift this seismic coming in the wake of the Big 10 situation.
While I think North Dakota and others have acted a bit irrationally and haven't thought about the long term nearly enough, strangely as this has begun to play out I am thinking the opposite about Notre Dame. We are starting to look as if it may be left up to us to pick at the scraps, or go begging hat in hand to land somewhere where our best interests are met. I have little fear that Notre Dame hockey will be in an acceptable position in 2 years, but will it be in the best position? Had we been leading the charge when it looked like things were going to shift as much as even the Penn State/Big Ten situation would change them, I would have been happier.
Other than Notre Dame buying out MU when they were the original opponent scheduled to open the 1997 season (and then, as would be the case now, MU was simply looking for a payday game against a "BCS type" school, and they got that payday without even having to play the game) what has Notre Dame ever done to "screw over" Miami in either football or basketball? At the time we were only one coach removed from a legend, and the two decade long decline in Notre Dame football was not a recognized situation. We were opening a newly renovated stadium with 20,000 more seats and for many reasons thought Georgia Tech made for a more attractive game. While I didn't necessarily support the decision, that is the way NCAA football at that level has been played for decades. Miami knows this, and plays the game.
The Tribune FINALLY chimed in today, for what it was worth. But the article is just a collection of news already reported by CHN, USCHO, and a handful of other newspapers in the regions of the affected schools. They did throw in a few comments made by Swarbrick from a radio interview conducted weeks ago. Of course, those comments are now somewhat outdated because no one really saw a shift this seismic coming in the wake of the Big 10 situation.
While I think North Dakota and others have acted a bit irrationally and haven't thought about the long term nearly enough, strangely as this has begun to play out I am thinking the opposite about Notre Dame. We are starting to look as if it may be left up to us to pick at the scraps, or go begging hat in hand to land somewhere where our best interests are met. I have little fear that Notre Dame hockey will be in an acceptable position in 2 years, but will it be in the best position? Had we been leading the charge when it looked like things were going to shift as much as even the Penn State/Big Ten situation would change them, I would have been happier.
Other than Notre Dame buying out MU when they were the original opponent scheduled to open the 1997 season (and then, as would be the case now, MU was simply looking for a payday game against a "BCS type" school, and they got that payday without even having to play the game) what has Notre Dame ever done to "screw over" Miami in either football or basketball? At the time we were only one coach removed from a legend, and the two decade long decline in Notre Dame football was not a recognized situation. We were opening a newly renovated stadium with 20,000 more seats and for many reasons thought Georgia Tech made for a more attractive game. While I didn't necessarily support the decision, that is the way NCAA football at that level has been played for decades. Miami knows this, and plays the game.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
I won't rehash what I wrote on the Miami thread (too much), but, JJfP, I'm more saddened than mad. (I also don't think ND ever screwed over Miami in other sports, but I get '95's point about others. I, for one, was happy to have ND come to Oxford twice for bball, and in a time when Miami could beat them.
) But back on topic, I am saddened. I fear we are losing what makes college hockey so great. I also believe Miami had to look at the options when they were approached, especially with ND almost certainly leaving the CCHA. I, for one, will be really sad if ND goes east and WMU does not get in the new conference. For me, the best outcome now is ND and WMU in the new league, otherwise I don't like it for either Miami or ND. But ND (and Miami) has earned the right to explore their options and do what they think is best. Now I'll go back to being sad.
I won't rehash what I wrote on the Miami thread (too much), but, JJfP, I'm more saddened than mad. (I also don't think ND ever screwed over Miami in other sports, but I get '95's point about others. I, for one, was happy to have ND come to Oxford twice for bball, and in a time when Miami could beat them.
) But back on topic, I am saddened. I fear we are losing what makes college hockey so great. I also believe Miami had to look at the options when they were approached, especially with ND almost certainly leaving the CCHA. I, for one, will be really sad if ND goes east and WMU does not get in the new conference. For me, the best outcome now is ND and WMU in the new league, otherwise I don't like it for either Miami or ND. But ND (and Miami) has earned the right to explore their options and do what they think is best. Now I'll go back to being sad.Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
The CCHA is no longer talking to us
I guess we can call next season's thread Irish hockey: CCHA we hardly knew ye.
The CCHA is no longer talking to us
I guess we can call next season's thread Irish hockey: CCHA we hardly knew ye.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Oh no. I have a much better title. It's been in the works ever since the new arena got its name.
After letting all this sink in for a few days, I don't feel as bad. Mr. JJfP (who is a glass is definitely full kinda guy, whereas I'm a glass is laying shattered on the floor kinda gal) told me it might work out for the "little guys." If they form a league, get an autobid (and maybe something extra), it may mean survival. No offense intended, but BG had virtually no chance to make the tourney in the CCHA of the past with Miami, Michigan, MSU (usually), UA(F), WMU and (recently) ND. BSU probably stood no chance in the old version of the WCHA also (unlike their magical run while in the dying days of the CHA). Maybe this is a blessing in disguise. Who knows?
I'm hoping soon we can start speculating on captains and all that jazz.
12 weeks until the first game situation. {doing a little happy dance}
Oh no. I have a much better title. It's been in the works ever since the new arena got its name.
After letting all this sink in for a few days, I don't feel as bad. Mr. JJfP (who is a glass is definitely full kinda guy, whereas I'm a glass is laying shattered on the floor kinda gal) told me it might work out for the "little guys." If they form a league, get an autobid (and maybe something extra), it may mean survival. No offense intended, but BG had virtually no chance to make the tourney in the CCHA of the past with Miami, Michigan, MSU (usually), UA(F), WMU and (recently) ND. BSU probably stood no chance in the old version of the WCHA also (unlike their magical run while in the dying days of the CHA). Maybe this is a blessing in disguise. Who knows?
I'm hoping soon we can start speculating on captains and all that jazz.
12 weeks until the first game situation. {doing a little happy dance}
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Christian Hanson signed a one-year contract with the Caps. Hope they know how to utilize him better than the Leafs.
Christian Hanson signed a one-year contract with the Caps. Hope they know how to utilize him better than the Leafs.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
I wasn't thinking specifically about that incident, but rather, that Notre Dame is a power school that makes their own rules (good for them) and profits from the joke that is the BCS. Lumping you in with the Big 10 folks is probably not entirely accurate, but from a big money standpoint, and the effects this had had on Miami? That's where I was going.
I wasn't thinking specifically about that incident, but rather, that Notre Dame is a power school that makes their own rules (good for them) and profits from the joke that is the BCS. Lumping you in with the Big 10 folks is probably not entirely accurate, but from a big money standpoint, and the effects this had had on Miami? That's where I was going.
dggoddard
New member
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
https://www.ironmountaindailynews.c...2/Hockey-conference-realignment.html?nav=5006
https://www.ironmountaindailynews.c...2/Hockey-conference-realignment.html?nav=5006
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Well that sounds like we may come, but don't invite anyone else
Well that sounds like we may come, but don't invite anyone else
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Not sure Wilson could have better utilized him -- perhaps it was Christian's performance:
He'll have to do better with the Caps.
Not sure Wilson could have better utilized him -- perhaps it was Christian's performance:
He'll have to do better with the Caps.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
But he didn't play the same role with the Leafs that he played with the Marlies, where he had much success. He was also bounced around a bit too much. There was no consistency. He's also not that physical of a player, which is definitely what Toronto aims for, especially with someone his size. I didn't expect him to go to Washington, but they do a good job of developing players, so I'm hopeful.
But he didn't play the same role with the Leafs that he played with the Marlies, where he had much success. He was also bounced around a bit too much. There was no consistency. He's also not that physical of a player, which is definitely what Toronto aims for, especially with someone his size. I didn't expect him to go to Washington, but they do a good job of developing players, so I'm hopeful.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Unfortunately, that could be said about just about every Leafs player. In case it's not obvious, I've never been a big Wilson fan.
I hope Christian makes the big squad - if not, he'll wind up in Hershey, so Dave and his buddies from da 'Burgh (including a couple who played here) won't have to travel so far to watch him play.
Unfortunately, that could be said about just about every Leafs player. In case it's not obvious, I've never been a big Wilson fan.
I hope Christian makes the big squad - if not, he'll wind up in Hershey, so Dave and his buddies from da 'Burgh (including a couple who played here) won't have to travel so far to watch him play.
dggoddard
New member
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Mario Lucia said that Notre Dame is telling recruits the Irish are most likely going to the Super League.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/125459413.html
Mario Lucia said that Notre Dame is telling recruits the Irish are most likely going to the Super League.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/125459413.html
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
Lucia also said he's leaning towards the Irish and will make a decision in the very near future.
Lucia also said he's leaning towards the Irish and will make a decision in the very near future.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
The "Big East"? Goddammit, Minnesota sportswriters.
The "Big East"? Goddammit, Minnesota sportswriters.
Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
I miss Christian and Mark.
Re: Irish hockey: JACC we hardly knew ye
So Mr. JJfP attended the meet-n-greet yesterday (this is finals week for my students, so I had those pesky obligations to attend to...), and he reported back to me that someone asked why I haven't said much about the goings-on and where ND should land.
Finals are basically over, so here's my 2 cents worth:
I believe ND will go to the new conference, the NCHC. (Is it just me, or does that sound like some chemical compound?) I believe (as was sort of confirmed yesterday) that ND is going to have one helluva t.v. deal. I also believe the chemical compound that will be the new conference needs that t.v. deal. In fact they covet it. I believe ND is in the driver's seat, in part because of the t.v. deal, the new arena and the brand name. I believe that from that driver's seat will come a condition to joining the new conference...something akin to holding conference finals in a Notre Dame-centric location, say Chicago. This is what I believe. But what do I know?
Now. Let's talk about this coming season for a while. All of the players are on campus this summer. They're champin' at the bit to get into the new digs. The seniors want to go out with a bang (or a banner and a trophy). The freshmen want to make an impact.
So. Part one of talking about the upcoming season is leadership. Who do you think will be the leaders? My choice for wearing the C would be Riley Sheahan. The A's would include Billy Maday, Sean Lorenz and Anders Lee.
Your turn.
So Mr. JJfP attended the meet-n-greet yesterday (this is finals week for my students, so I had those pesky obligations to attend to...), and he reported back to me that someone asked why I haven't said much about the goings-on and where ND should land.
Finals are basically over, so here's my 2 cents worth:
I believe ND will go to the new conference, the NCHC. (Is it just me, or does that sound like some chemical compound?) I believe (as was sort of confirmed yesterday) that ND is going to have one helluva t.v. deal. I also believe the chemical compound that will be the new conference needs that t.v. deal. In fact they covet it. I believe ND is in the driver's seat, in part because of the t.v. deal, the new arena and the brand name. I believe that from that driver's seat will come a condition to joining the new conference...something akin to holding conference finals in a Notre Dame-centric location, say Chicago. This is what I believe. But what do I know?
Now. Let's talk about this coming season for a while. All of the players are on campus this summer. They're champin' at the bit to get into the new digs. The seniors want to go out with a bang (or a banner and a trophy). The freshmen want to make an impact.
So. Part one of talking about the upcoming season is leadership. Who do you think will be the leaders? My choice for wearing the C would be Riley Sheahan. The A's would include Billy Maday, Sean Lorenz and Anders Lee.
Your turn.