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Imagining League Realignment

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Here's my league realignment. New programs in bold... 12 Leagues with 101 programs!!!!!!111


B1G (10): Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin

Notre Dame Conf (6): Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Western Michigan.

Empire Conference (11): Canisius, Clarkson, Colgate, Cornell (booted from Ivy...so sad), Niagara, NY Rangers, RPI, RIT, St Lawrence, Syracuse, Union

Bull$#*t State Conf (11): Bemidji State, St Cloud State, Moorhead State, Mankato St, District 5 Team, Minn-Duluth, Minn-Twin Cities, Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska, Alaska-Mystery, Hawaii

Ivy League (10): Brown, Cambridge, Columbia (plays on Frozen Hudson River), Dartmouth, Harvard, Oxford, Penn, Princeton, Stanford, Yale.

Penn Conference (6): Charlestown Chiefs, Mercyhurst, Penn State (who needs the B1G), Pitt, RMU, Temple

Armed Forces COnference (6): Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine, Royal Military College

Yooper-Canadia Conference (6): LSSU, MTU, NMU, Oshawa Generals, SSM Greyhounds, Sarnia Sting (Major coup in Major Juniors!)

Hockey East (8): UMass, UML, Merrimack, Northeastern, Providence, Rhode Island, Holy Cross, Vermont, Quinnipiac, Hartford Whalers.

NCHC East (8): BC, BU, Duke, Maine, UNH, UConn (after disbanding basketball and converting Gampel to a hockey facility), UVM, AIC (major recommitment in the program)

NCHC West (9): Miami, NoDak, Oklahoma, Denver, Coll COllege, UNO, Colorado, USC, Peoria Rivermen.

Blender COnf (10): Bentley, Sacred Heart, Ferris State, BGSU, Wayne State, Iona, COlorado School of Mines, Fairfield, Findlay, Wyoming

You forgot to put AIC, UConn, and Bentley in Bold :)
 
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Still a small fish, maybe not small "school." The lack of scholarships at the Ivy's is irrelevant because every player gets school paid for if they aren't rich. I can't see how RIT will ever become a big fish because they can't offer athletic scholarships to their players...

All seafood analogies aside, you still have yet to actually disagree with my point, yet you continue to argue. The only thing I said is that those that refer to RIT as a "small school" are wrong. "Small fish", "Small time", whatever, is fine, but... WE ARE NOT A "SMALL SCHOOL". That is all I was saying.
 
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All seafood analogies aside, you still have yet to actually disagree with my point, yet you continue to argue. The only thing I said is that those that refer to RIT as a "small school" are wrong. "Small fish", "Small time", whatever, is fine, but... WE ARE NOT A "SMALL SCHOOL". That is all I was saying.
And thats just ignorant if we're talking about the actual institution, but I'm guessing most people are just talking about the "small fish" when they say small school.
 
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And thats just ignorant if we're talking about the actual institution, but I'm guessing most people are just talking about the "small fish" when they say small school.
I think there are some (not you obviously), who just assume because we're from D-III and not a nationally known school like UMTC, UW, or BC, that we must be small and never actually find out whether that is true or not... ignorant, like you said.
Granted, RIT may be (I have no idea) one of the largest D-III colleges in the country since many D-III's are small. But not all are.
 
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While 17,000+ isn't small, it isn't big either.

Then again I am from the part of the country in which "Monstrous State-name University" is the popular template.
 
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I think there are some (not you obviously), who just assume because we're from D-III and not a nationally known school like UMTC, UW, or BC, that we must be small and never actually find out whether that is true or not... ignorant, like you said.
Granted, RIT may be (I have no idea) one of the largest D-III colleges in the country since many D-III's are small. But not all are.
I doubt I would have known how large the school actually is if it wasn't for a high school buddy of mine that did grad work there.
 
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While 17,000+ isn't small, it isn't big either.

Then again I am from the part of the country in which "Monstrous State-name University" is the popular template.
There are no such Monstrous State U's around this state at least. No RIT is not huge, but they are the 13th largest private university in the US. I'd say that qualifies as big. The 35k - 50k State U's are in a class of their own, so to speak. Once you drop down from those gigantic numbers, 17k is pretty big. There are far more schools nationally (and in hockey) in the 5k - 10k range than there are > 20k, that's for sure.
 
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The problem I see with this set up is if MSU-Moorhead ends up in the WCHA (IF they start a program), you would end up with schools from the same conference playing each other. You would have Minnesota from the Big Ten, Duluth from the NCHC, and then BSU, MSU-M and M, and St. Cloud from the WCHA. Not sure if those four from the WCHA would want to play a conference team in the tourney?
Michigan and Michigan State more often than not end up playing each other at the GLI every year. And its not like Tech doesn't invite other WCHA teams to come join the party there.

Here's my league realignment. New programs in bold... 12 Leagues with 103 programs!!!!!!111


B1G (10): Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State, Purdue, Wisconsin

Notre Dame Conf (6): Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Western Michigan.

Empire Conference (11): Canisius, Clarkson, Colgate, Cornell (booted from Ivy...so sad), Niagara, NY Rangers, RPI, RIT, St Lawrence, Syracuse, Union

Bull$#*t State Conf (11): Bemidji State, St Cloud State, Moorhead State, Mankato St, District 5 Team, Minn-Duluth, Minn-Twin Cities, Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska, Alaska-Mystery, Hawaii

Ivy League (10): Brown, Cambridge, Columbia (plays on Frozen Hudson River), Dartmouth, Harvard, Oxford, Penn, Princeton, Stanford, Yale.

Penn Conference (6): Charlestown Chiefs, Mercyhurst, Penn State (who needs the B1G), Pitt, RMU, Temple

Armed Forces COnference (6): Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine, Royal Military College

Yooper-Canadia Conference (6): LSSU, MTU, NMU, Oshawa Generals, SSM Greyhounds, Sarnia Sting (Major coup in Major Juniors!)

Hockey East (9): UMass, UML, Merrimack, Northeastern, Providence, Rhode Island, Holy Cross, Quinnipiac, Hartford Whalers.

NCHC East (8): BC, BU, Duke, Maine, UNH, UConn (after disbanding basketball and converting Gampel to a hockey facility), UVM, AIC (major recommitment in the program)

NCHC West (9): Miami, NoDak, Oklahoma, Denver, Coll COllege, UNO, Colorado, USC, Peoria Rivermen.

Blender COnf (11): Alabama-Huntsville, Bentley, Sacred Heart, Ferris State, BGSU, Wayne State, Iona, COlorado School of Mines, Fairfield, Findlay, Wyoming
This is just crazy enough that I like it, even if it does include the **** dirty Peoria Rivermen.

There are no such Monstrous State U's around this state at least. No RIT is not huge, but they are the 13th largest private university in the US. I'd say that qualifies as big. The 35k - 50k State U's are in a class of their own, so to speak. Once you drop down from those gigantic numbers, 17k is pretty big. There are far more schools nationally (and in hockey) in the 5k - 10k range than there are > 20k, that's for sure.
True. Hell, people all the time think of Norte Dame as a huge school, but they only have an enrollment of students thats under 12,000. Enrollment wise, Ferris State is bigger with 13,000.
 
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