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I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread

Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread

Don't worry, Miami will save their choke job for either the CCHA final or the NCAA tournament (or both). Seems they never show up for the biggest stage (see outdoor game this year for reference)

I WAS JUST STARTING TO LIKE YOU, GAHHHH...

But seriously, being one and done the last two tournaments has sucked. But as far as avoiding a choke, you guys need to win some games or you will be golfing for the first time in what, 22 years? Hopefully we don't have a repeat of 2010, or maybe I want that (as far as the tournament goes...)
 
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I WAS JUST STARTING TO LIKE YOU, GAHHHH...

But seriously, being one and done the last two tournaments has sucked. But as far as avoiding a choke, you guys need to win some games or you will be golfing for the first time in what, 22 years? Hopefully we don't have a repeat of 2010, or maybe I want that (as far as the tournament goes...)

I think Miami has overachieved to such an extent this year that baring a complete postseason meltdown (i.e. Sparty coming in and sweeping this weekend) I'd have a hard time, unlike in years past, labeling it as a "choke". Expecting a team of 13 freshmen to waltz through the postseason with no hiccups is pretty steep. I have faith that this team's dynamic won't allow them to come out flat in the post season, and not having Tyler Biggs there to decapitate someone 7 seconds into his first shift will probably help with getting off to a good start in NCAAs.

Chicago this year, meh. ND adapated to the ice, Miami didn't or wasn't able to. Neutral site game against a good team, not going to put too much stock into that result.
 
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So I am now to believe anyone that has ever made money betting on sports knows what they're talking about? You're funny.


No, but combined with the fact that I back up my statements with facts, stats and evidence, could mean that I do actually know what I'm talking about.





Do you say this having watched either team play this season, or do you base it solely on scores? Since you claim to be a hockey fan, you must recognize that sometimes a one goal win can be from a dominating performance.



The one goal thing seems to be a trend in EVERY SINGLE game, almost, though. So the theory that they are dominating despite the close margin of victory just isn't supported by the facts.

I haven't watched either team play. I believe randomly watching a team play one or even a few games, can too easily skew a person's perspective. If I could watch every single game, by every single team, then it all could be balanced out, but tell me, do you have the time to watch that many games?! I don't. I allow myself to watch only Gopher games, the years I'm betting on that sport, and then I do not allow myself to bet on the Gophers, for my perspective often gets skewed when it comes to them.


But, what I do have the time to do, is to analyze statistical data, especially since so many people/sites on the internet do most of the research for me. Now you are more than welcome to doubt me and my level of intelligence, or my level of knowledge of sports or more specifically college hockey, but all I can do is tell you that doubting me is not the right thing to do. I've proven over a 15 year time span that my methods of analyzing sports and then being able to predict winners is accurate far more often than not. The 2 years I spent betting on college basketball full time, betting on an average of 40 games a week, I made the right picks against the spread 75-85% of the time. I've been told that 60% is a very high percentage. I seriously considered moving to Las Vegas but I was given the opportunity to get custody of my 4 yr old daughter and didn't want her to have to tell anyone that her daddy was a professional gambler, so I chose instead to become a hard working single father. But that was 13-14 years ago, she's now out of the house, and I'm using this winter to ease myself back into it.



If you go back and ignore my inflammatory remark about Miami being the worst #3 rated team ever, lol, and just look at the data I supplied that helped bring me to that conclusion, you can easily see that I do have a clue what I am talking about. But my guess is that you will not be able to remove your biases from your mind. The fact that my research points to the CCHA being, as a whole, very weak, does not bode well for your team or any team in the CCHA, so its pretty natural for you and most all other CCHA fans to want very badly to find a reason not to believe me. I understand that, and I'm fine with that. If betting over the internet was legal I'd use that fact to take all of you suckers for all your money. lol.
 
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Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread

Just one more piece of evidence backing up my statements about Miami and the CCHA in general, are the Massey ratings.

Miami is only rated 7th in his ratings.

Notre Dm is only rated 10th.

WMich is only rated 15th.

FSU is rated 25th.


The CCHA's top team is only rated 7th in the nation, behind 4 WCHA teams and both the conf leaders of Hockey East and Atlantic Hockey.

Miami's SOS is rated #24.


But I am sure he doesn't know what he's talking about either, right?!





And to let you know, Fellowes didn't like that my posts detracted from the thread yesterday, so I said I'd try to stay out of here. All I've done is replied to the criticisms that were posted about me and my opinions.

If the rest of you don't want me in here detracting from the thread, then don't reply in a way that would inspire me to feel the need to respond. If you ignore me, I'll go away, I'll get bored and let it rest. I've said my piece and backed it up with evidence. lol.

And you can respond and say you don't agree with me, that's fine, but if you make comments suggesting I'm an idiot or if you laugh at how I came up with my opinions, then I'll feel like defending my position. Otherwise I have no problem with civil comments expressing disagreement. I said yesterday that I didn't come into this thread to purposely derail the discussion.

But my comments about Miami are directly associated with the game coming up. I think that MSU will force the series to 3 games, because MU will let them. That simple.
 
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And to let you know, Fellowes didn't like that my posts detracted from the thread yesterday, so I said I'd try to stay out of here. All I've done is replied to the criticisms that were posted about me and my opinions.

If the rest of you don't want me in here detracting from the thread, then don't reply in a way that would inspire me to feel the need to respond. If you ignore me, I'll go away, I'll get bored and let it rest. I've said my piece and backed it up with evidence. lol.

Oh come on JDUBBS, now you're not even trying to hide behind a new username!
 
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Oh come on JDUBBS, now you're not even trying to hide behind a new username!

i was going to post that. Those bolded quotes are JDUBBS's go to.

As for the series.... I can't believe a CCHA game thread went over 2 pages! Well done owslachief!
 
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i was going to post that. Those bolded quotes are JDUBBS's go to.

As for the series.... I can't believe a CCHA game thread went over 2 pages! Well done owslachief!

This is no way to Celebrate the Legacy (of boring, short, uneventful CCHA game threads).
 
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Oh come on JDUBBS, now you're not even trying to hide behind a new username!



The truth is the truth, just because 2 different people see the same thing, doesn't mean that they are the same person. There are definite differences I've noticed about myself and JDUBBS, since people started accusing me of being him. I am a huge fan of quantifying accomplishments in ratings and rankings. JDUBBS can't understand how anyone can like that kind of thing. LOL, he's such a dumbass in that regard.

People are different, some love those kinds of things, stats, ratings, rankings, etc.. And apparently he doesn't. He talks like people are supposed to just "FEEL" greatness or something. Like they should walk into Mariucci Arena and just be overwhelmed by the incredible awesomeness of all things Minnesota Gopher hockey, and then all should bow in reverence or something?


I am not of the same opinion. I'm not from Missouri, but I say SHOW ME. Show me the stats that back up your "feeling".
 
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:rolleyes:
I WAS JUST STARTING TO LIKE YOU, GAHHHH...

But seriously, being one and done the last two tournaments has sucked. But as far as avoiding a choke, you guys need to win some games or you will be golfing for the first time in what, 22 years? Hopefully we don't have a repeat of 2010, or maybe I want that (as far as the tournament goes...)
Oh, come on, you will never like me, just like I will never like your team. I try to post neutral, logical statements, but sometimes it's fun to be a troll, my bias shows and I just can't help myself.
And whatever Michigan does at this point is beyond our expectations from where we were at the beginnng of February, so I won't label it a choke job. Although it will hurt to see the season end earlier than we're used to.


LOL, Miami is no worse a #3 than the Gophers are a #2, eh?!

WOW, and all because the RPI, a rating system respected by about 5% of sports fans, says so, eh?!
Is this where we are supposed to respond "Simple Math" (c)Scooby ?

And since you want to talk about conference strength, tell me about that co-season champ SCSU and how they were able to beat WCHA schools but didn't perform in non-conference match-ups (going 3-5 against UNH, Huntsville, RPI and NMU)?

I could easily hand pick a bunch of other stats to support my arguement and ignore everything else, but I have no desire to do so.

As for the series.... I can't believe a CCHA game thread went over 2 pages! Well done owslachief!
I apologize for the off topic trolling. However, maybe if we can get into a flame war, have a CCHA series thread deleted by board we can prove that our conference is right up there with the WCHA! :D
 
Re: I can't believe there's no MSU - Miami thread

i was going to post that. Those bolded quotes are JDUBBS's go to.

As for the series.... I can't believe a CCHA game thread went over 2 pages! Well done owslachief!

Heh heh ... that's 10 minutes of scrolling I'll never get back. I now understand the hesitation to create.
 
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I apologize for the off topic trolling. However, maybe if we can get into a flame war, have a CCHA series thread deleted by board we can prove that our conference is right up there with the WCHA! :D

Yost sucks and the scoreboard is too big.
 
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The truth is the truth, just because 2 different people see the same thing, doesn't mean that they are the same person. There are definite differences I've noticed about myself and JDUBBS, since people started accusing me of being him. I am a huge fan of quantifying accomplishments in ratings and rankings. JDUBBS can't understand how anyone can like that kind of thing. LOL, he's such a dumbass in that regard.

People are different, some love those kinds of things, stats, ratings, rankings, etc.. And apparently he doesn't. He talks like people are supposed to just "FEEL" greatness or something. Like they should walk into Mariucci Arena and just be overwhelmed by the incredible awesomeness of all things Minnesota Gopher hockey, and then all should bow in reverence or something?


I am not of the same opinion. I'm not from Missouri, but I say SHOW ME. Show me the stats that back up your "feeling".

Then why do you show up right when JDUBBS gets suspended? ;)
 
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And since you want to talk about conference strength, tell me about that co-season champ SCSU and how they were able to beat WCHA schools but didn't perform in non-conference match-ups (going 3-5 against UNH, Huntsville, RPI and NMU)?

I could easily hand pick a bunch of other stats to support my arguement and ignore everything else, but I have no desire to do so.




WolverineTrumpet --


Oh please, its like we are in some liberal politically correct kindergarten class where all the children are special and all their talents and abilities are all equal and alike and no one is better than anyone else, oh because that might hurt someone's feelings or stunt some child's ability to feel good about themselves in the future.



This is HOCKEY, a contact sport. There ARE winners, and there ARE losers. And you can cherry pick a couple anomalies from SCSU's early season ooc schedule, maybe?!


But then I'd just respond by doing an indepth analysis of each and every CCHA team and comparing them side by side with WCHA teams with corresponding conf finishes, and then, even then, you wouldn't accept the truth. Because you are a diehard homer fan, and that's fine, I understand your desire to believe your team and your conference is better than it is.



But the truth is, I got nothing against Michigan per se, but the CCHA sucks. It just does, in comparison that is.



The NCAA had to tweek how they format the NCAA tourney to make sure there never would be another repeat of 2005, and that has helped the CCHA some. And that is something to be proud of, that the NCAA had to basically figure out some way to HANDICAP the system, hence giving lesser schools from the CCHA some help and holding back the WCHA some, to try to spread out the wealth sort of speak. It was the right thing to do for college hockey, so I'm not *****ing, but to claim that is not what happened, or that the WCHA isn't the strongest conf and always has been the strongest conf, as a whole, from top to bottom, is simply ignoring the truth.

And the CCHA is weak, its that simple. Maybe not as weak as the CHA, but its no where near the WCHA.
 
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Then why do you show up right when JDUBBS gets suspended?



MUnRPI --


I was around before he got suspended. You just didn't notice because all your attention was focused on him or on what your team was doing, or whatever.

But I will admit that at least one or two of the things I've posted looked very familiar to something he has posted in the past, and believe me, I didn't know what to think about it either when it was first pointed out? I had to laugh. Because for one, I don't give a rats patootie what any of your think of me. And also, it doesn't matter who speaks the truth, if it is the truth, then it is the truth, no matter if you like who says it or agree with everything they say or not.

Am I not right about that?


Do we not, in our society, sometimes feel afraid to speak our mind because of what people will think about us? People are so ready to pounce, people in the media lose their jobs at the drop of a hat if they dare say certain things. And for those of you who feel like this place is sort of like a hang out, a place you've been coming to for years maybe, I can understand why people are sometimes afraid to say this or that, and they are surely not going to agree with JDUBBS, or at least rarely, and then they do, they always put a disclaimer in their post so as everyone knows that they also disagree with JDUBBS about most everything else. I DID THAT as well in some of my posts. I am human and sometimes succumb to such temptations, as do we all. But at the same time, I don't plan on hanging out here for the next 10 years, making friends with people here, either, so I also succumb to the temptation to just not give a rats ash, and I let my opinions fly, and agree with JDUBBS when what he has spoken is true, and I will bash the CCHA when it is weak, as it is, etc.. And I'll sometimes call someone an idiot or something as well, and I regret those kinds of statements more than any.

Nothing says we can't be civil when we discuss college hockey. But I also understand that can get boring sometimes. I try to keep my humor and don't mind at all when people poke fun of me, as long as they do it without being too mean spirited. There really isn't any reason to go there, imo.
 
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And the CCHA is weak, its that simple. Maybe not as weak as the CHA, but its no where near the WCHA.

In my 25 years of following the CCHA, I agree with the first statement. Only one team is averaging over 3 goals per game scored. It is not the great goaltending either, it is the lack of star power and high end talent at forward. Perhaps the OHL defections have caught up to some teams. Not many players that make you want to say "I want to see that team play", or ones that you fear once they hit the ice for warm ups or each time they touch the puck. Some CCHA teams seem like glorified USHL teams. While the WCHA is still the top league, I think this is a relatively weak year for college hockey overall. That will happen after a four year period when approximately 30 players year sign with eligibility remaining along with the heightened CHL/NCAA battle for top prospects.
 
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In my 25 years of following the CCHA, I agree with the first statement. Only one team is averaging over 3 goals per game scored. It is not the great goaltending either, it is the lack of star power and high end talent at forward. Perhaps the OHL defections have caught up to some teams. Not many players that make you want to say "I want to see that team play", or ones that you fear once they hit the ice for warm ups or each time they touch the puck. Some CCHA teams seem like glorified USHL teams. While the WCHA is still the top league, I think this is a relatively weak year for college hockey overall. That will happen after a four year period when approximately 30 players year sign with eligibility remaining along with the heightened CHL/NCAA battle for top prospects.
Maybe the CCHA is weak this year, but I think most years it is closer to the WCHA and HE than this year. The CCHA might only get two teams in this year, but they had five teams in last year and four teams in the three years before that.
 
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