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Hockey East Tourney on the Move

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Cat lover said:
How many games had all the Lowell players played when they made the Garden 2 years ago?
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There's a reason I didn't list UML in there. Regardless of whether an advantage or not (let's be honest, it's probably a small advantage), I think it's still highly overrated.

What's highly underrated is the focus these guys exhibit, which takes away a lot of the disadvantage of never playing in a big building before. The game is played between the glass and that's what these guys are focused on (incredibly focused, I might add).

Also note in my above post, I really should not have even mentioned BU and BC freshmen because as you had noted, they will have already been there before because of the Piszpot.

In the end, I think the whole nature of your post was silly... no offense.
 
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i propose a play until vermont wins structure where the two teams meet each night at a different venue until vermont is the winner. when that occurs, all following years' games will be played at that location until the unlikely event that vermont loses and then the location will change again the following night.

the league will also reserve the right to extend or shorten the game time, at any point and at their sole discretion, if the outcome of a game is ever seriously in doubt.

further, in the event of a losing streak of 5 or more, teams that 'traditionally perform well on big stages' may receive a permanent man power disadvantage for the remainder of the series. the disadvantage may be 1 or 2 players (including a goalie) and will be decided by a majority vote of the two teams that missed the playoffs and vermont.
 
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Obviously, we should construct a Euclidean distance model to determine the true center of Hockey East, at which spot we should build an 18k seat arena, along the lines of the Xcel Energy Center. We should then do everything in our power to develop a world class city around said arena, at which point we should immediately and permanently relocate the Hockey East tournament.

OR we could just leave the d@mn thing in Boston.

Whichever.
 
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Given the hits the Providence College AD has taken over the past several months due to the stupid actions of his basketball players, I suspect this article was nothing more than his spin to appease whatever remaining season ticket holders he has on the bouncyball side. I'm sure he hopes the lure of an NCAA bouncyball tourney can make the fans forget the lousy program he is running.

The hockey aspect of the article is likely mere fill. PC, which has successfully handled NCAA and HEA tourneys in the past absolutetly mishandled the last NCAA hockey tourney there and it seemed there was no appetite around that program to do it again.

I suspect this is much ado about nothing.

All that being said, Providence, the city, does thow a great party for whatever tournament is in town.
 
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Moving the Hockey East tournament away from Boston is about as good of an idea as moving the ECAC tournament to Atlantic City.
 
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amherstblackbear said:
Obviously, we should construct a Euclidean distance model to determine the true center of Hockey East, at which spot we should build an 18k seat arena, along the lines of the Xcel Energy Center. We should then do everything in our power to develop a world class city around said arena, at which point we should immediately and permanently relocate the Hockey East tournament.

OR we could just leave the d@mn thing in Boston.

Whichever.
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here's the center of HEA:
42.909558,-71.257252
click, or punch those coords into google maps.

If you build it.....

r
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
There's a reason I didn't list UML in there. Regardless of whether an advantage or not (let's be honest, it's probably a small advantage), I think it's still highly overrated.

What's highly underrated is the focus these guys exhibit, which takes away a lot of the disadvantage of never playing in a big building before. The game is played between the glass and that's what these guys are focused on (incredibly focused, I might add).

Also note in my above post, I really should not have even mentioned BU and BC freshmen because as you had noted, they will have already been there before because of the Piszpot.

In the end, I think the whole nature of your post was silly... no offense.
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The Lowell team that made the Garden a couple of years ago wanted the big stage at the Garden and nearly won the HE title. Who the heck would want to play in Providence (No offense to Rhode Island)?
 
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Regarding the question about when the out of town teams arrive to Boston for the semi's, they are required to attend the Hockey East Banquet on that Thursday. The banquet is at Royal Sonesta where the teams stay.
 
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Gainzo said:
The Lowell team that made the Garden a couple of years ago wanted the big stage at the Garden and nearly won the HE title. Who the heck would want to play in Providence (No offense to Rhode Island)?
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If this goes through (HUGE if), I can think of 10 teams off the top of my head that would want to play in Providence.
 
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Cat lover said:
How many games had all the Lowell players played when they made the Garden 2 years ago?

My quess less combined than every freshman on BC. And the upper classmen at BC/BU etc would all have had about a dozen by then.

You cant say having played more in a big stage like that is not an advantage.
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if you, or blaise, want guys with experience playing there - go to longmeadow and recruit, or scituate, or hingham, or newburyport, or cm, or bch, or blah blah blaty blah blah.:cool:
 
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RockTheWhit said:
Regarding the question about when the out of town teams arrive to Boston for the semi's, they are required to attend the Hockey East Banquet on that Thursday. The banquet is at Royal Sonesta where the teams stay.
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Thanks.
 
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amherstblackbear said:
Obviously, we should construct a Euclidean distance model to determine the true center of Hockey East, at which spot we should build an 18k seat arena, along the lines of the Xcel Energy Center. We should then do everything in our power to develop a world class city around said arena, at which point we should immediately and permanently relocate the Hockey East tournament.

OR we could just leave the d@mn thing in Boston.

Whichever.
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I laugh every time I hear Boston pols trumpet 'their' city as 'world-class.' These are the people who feel that the world ends at the Weston Toll Booths. Then again, Boston pols don't get out much. Parochialism runs rampant among all of them.
 
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Cat lover said:
The league really should concider a move as the current set up gives the Boston schools a unfair advantage each year. Here are several reasons.
So nobody thinks I am bashing Boston let it be known I lived in Mass for most of my early years and am a fan of all Boston teams so this is not about Boston but what is fair for all HE teams

1. Home Ice

All 3 Boston schools get to play the 2 games at the Beanpot during the second half of the season which no one can say is not an advantage. Most of the upperclassmen on those teams probably already played there 2 to 4 times a year while other teams coming in might have most or all of their roster not having never played there.

2.Home Fans

While saying BC and BU make up a ton of the crowd when all they have to do is hop on a train for 15 minutes is true but really if UNH, Maine or Vermont were that close to the rink you would sell out much more often.

If you had the same distance to every school to the game site you would see a much different make up in the stands. Vermont and Maine would have had the most last year, heck Maine was very represented last year and Vermont
had a good showing despite having both BBall teams playing the NCAA's the same weekend. If you could move Vermont to Orono and build a rink you
would not even need 2 other teams to sell it out.

Think of this BU holds 6150 and BC 7884 when they sellout which they do, but the total attendance to the semis last year was 12544. And thats with
the Maine and Vermont fans included.

3. Home

Anyone who has ever traveled for sports knows one of the biggest advantages a team gets at home is sleeping in there own bed and being able to stick to the usual routine. Anyone who ever had a bad night sleep at a hotel knows this, and add the pressure of a big game to that.


So where should they have the final 4 to be fair to ALL HE TEAMS

needs
1. Site should be centered as best as possible to all HE teams
2. No team should have games there during the reg season
3. Location should be big enough for fans coming


The best place would be Manchester (UNH would have to move Dartmouth game) as it is close to all schools in Mass & RI while shortening the trip slightly for Maine and Vermont. The town host NCAA games so big games are nothing new.

Also a rotation that BC/HE brought up would be a improvement.
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You should petition to go back to the ECAC then. UVM knew the set up when they came to Hockey East so go cry me a river.

I do agree it can move from time to time and I think Providence is a viable option. Someone mentioned Lowell, but Providence is a better city (obviously) due to the bars, restaurants, hotels, etc. Why would Hockey East put their tournament in a place like Lowell? No thanks.

I say keep it at the Garden and every four years or so put it in Providence.
 
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Cat lover said:
How many games had all the Lowell players played when they made the Garden 2 years ago?

My quess less combined than every freshman on BC. And the upper classmen at BC/BU etc would all have had about a dozen by then.

You cant say having played more in a big stage like that is not an advantage.
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I look at the last ten champions in Hockey East and I think those teams would have won if the games were played at the Garden, Providence or the Moon. The best team usually wins in Hockey East down the stretch.

Saying the Boston teams win only because they have experience on Causeway Street is laughable at best. The obvious flaw in your theory is Northeastern. They play at the Garden every year but haven't played in the Hockey East final once in over a decade.
 
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Chris_NH said:
I laugh every time I hear Boston pols trumpet 'their' city as 'world-class.' These are the people who feel that the world ends at the Weston Toll Booths. Then again, Boston pols don't get out much. Parochialism runs rampant among all of them.
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Hmm I thought most if not all of that post was a joke...

Just curious, do you think moving the tournament from Boston is a good idea?
 
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Chris_NH said:
I laugh every time I hear Boston pols trumpet 'their' city as 'world-class.' These are the people who feel that the world ends at the Weston Toll Booths. Then again, Boston pols don't get out much. Parochialism runs rampant among all of them.
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while not Rome, Paris, Tokyo, New York, London et al, Boston is known and respected all over the world...........so, i kind of agree with the last post, i am not sure what you mean or meant to say. Boston pols? we know all about 'em, throw 'em in a pail but it doesnt take away from the city's place in the world, yes, the world...............heck, i have a fair amount of friends/business associates in India who tell me that Boston College is widely known and very well respected there, FYI;) .........i digress
 
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