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Hockey East Tournament back to 8 teams for 2018/19

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boblav1 said:
Agreed. Now let's hope the rules committee doesn't come up with some crazy overtime format. I'm fine with ties and dislike the shootout. If anything increase the overtime to 7 minutes. I can't understand why the need to keep screwing around with the game.
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Some of the rule changes I can understand because you can easily exploit flaws. However, regarding the OT/Skills Contest changes: The playoff OT is still in the rule book. Although right now it is only for tournament play, you could put in an exception to allow that format at any time, and then have no ties.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Some of the rule changes I can understand because you can easily exploit flaws. However, regarding the OT/Skills Contest changes: The playoff OT is still in the rule book. Although right now it is only for tournament play, you could put in an exception to allow that format at any time, and then have no ties.
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See Beanpot OT rules....
 
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joecct said:
See Beanpot OT rules....
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Exactly. And right now, any "tournament" could utilize it, although consolation games (i.e. third-place games) are not permitted it. I wonder if "trophy games" could be construed as tournament as well; that'd be interesting seeing one of those go four overtimes...
 
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joecct said:
See Beanpot OT rules....
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i.e., tournament overtime rules:

91.4 Tied Games - Tournament Competition - Where advancement in a bracket or the determination of a tournament champion is necessary, any series in a format (e.g., single game, minigame series) that results in a tie shall be broken by 20-minute, sudden-death overtime periods (Exception: See 91.3). The ice shall be resurfaced upon completion of regulation play. The teams shall change ends at the end of each period (except as indicated in Rule 90.2). In each overtime, at the first stoppage of play under the ten minute mark, an ice maintenance timeout of one-minute in duration will be administered. Teams may return to their benches at this time. Thirdplace games may follow the overtime procedures as described in Rule 91.
Note: A tied game in a minigame series must use a five-minute overtime period. If the series is tied after the second game, a 20-minute minigame will be played after an intermission period. See Appendix A for complete procedures.

Since most games don't need to determine a winner it is unlikely the NCAA will change the rule to include all games. For some information on the change from 10 to 5 minute overtimes and how that increased ties you can read my post in the Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix? thread. Going back to 10 minute overtimes should reduce ties by about 20%.

Sean
 
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Sean Pickett said:
i.e., tournament overtime rules:

91.4 Tied Games - Tournament Competition - Where advancement in a bracket or the determination of a tournament champion is necessary, any series in a format (e.g., single game, minigame series) that results in a tie shall be broken by 20-minute, sudden-death overtime periods (Exception: See 91.3). The ice shall be resurfaced upon completion of regulation play. The teams shall change ends at the end of each period (except as indicated in Rule 90.2). In each overtime, at the first stoppage of play under the ten minute mark, an ice maintenance timeout of one-minute in duration will be administered. Teams may return to their benches at this time. Thirdplace games may follow the overtime procedures as described in Rule 91.
Note: A tied game in a minigame series must use a five-minute overtime period. If the series is tied after the second game, a 20-minute minigame will be played after an intermission period. See Appendix A for complete procedures.

Since most games don't need to determine a winner it is unlikely the NCAA will change the rule to include all games. For some information on the change from 10 to 5 minute overtimes and how that increased ties you can read my post in the Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix? thread. Going back to 10 minute overtimes should reduce ties by about 20%.

Sean
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This is true. I'm just trying to strike a good balance between those that hate skills competition and changes the rules of the game for OT, and those who hate ties.
 
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Step in the right direction for sure.

Now, if they would just award their AQ to the RS champion... (Play the tournament if you must, but it should only count for the sake of further PWR data.)
 
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Fishman'81 said:
Step in the right direction for sure.

Now, if they would just award their AQ to the RS champion... (Play the tournament if you must, but it should only count for the sake of further PWR data.)
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how's that hum hum song go agin?

"fvckin' stupid...
fvckin' stupid..."
 
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Farewell and good riddance to the MBPBEGAM "playoffs" round. Dumb idea from the outset.

I'd actually like to see only the top six qualify, with the top two getting byes into the semis.

If it's the top six qualifying, there would be a good chance they'd all at least have winning records.
 
ScottK said:
That wouldn't have been true this past season.
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Seriously, and that’s all on hockey east at this point for not winning in non-conference. Considering how non-clutch the B10 has been we have collectively failed to cash in.
 
Patman said:
Seriously, and that’s all on hockey east at this point for not winning in non-conference. Considering how non-clutch the B10 has been we have collectively failed to cash in.
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HEA teams also failed to cash in against Atlantic Hockey teams, such as UML vs Bentley, IIRC?
 
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Snively65 said:
HEA teams also failed to cash in against Atlantic Hockey teams, such as UML vs Bentley, IIRC?
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Hockey East had a down year by League standards...but they {HEA} will rebound back to a top Conference in the College Hockey world.
 
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Patman said:
Seriously, and that’s all on hockey east at this point for not winning in non-conference. Considering how non-clutch the B10 has been we have collectively failed to cash in.
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Actually, the Top 4 were the only teams that finished above .500 in conference games alone.

At the end of the regular season, the Top 4 and one of the teams tied for 5th were above .500 overall, and the team in 7th was at exactly .500.
 
Snively65 said:
HEA teams also failed to cash in against Atlantic Hockey teams, such as UML vs Bentley, IIRC?
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When did I ever say we weren’t at fault?

This has been an issue for years and not just this year. This year we sucked. The end
 
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Sean Pickett said:
Going back to 10 minute overtimes should reduce ties by about 20%.
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Want to fix the tie problem... only reward what you want:

win = 2 points
tie = 0 points
loss = 0 points

In that world nobody plays for the tie.
 
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Just giving this one a bump before it falls off page two, as there are a couple of great ideas for decreasing the number of ties that may deserve further discussion......, or not?
 
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I may very well be in the minority on this but I've never had a problem with regular season ties. IMO, it's in the nature of the game that, on a given night, one team may not be better than the other and a tie--with one standings point for each team--is the only fair outcome. That's why hockey uses standings points rather than the W L Pct format used by other sports. Shootouts, in my view, are anathema. They may provide good entertainment but it's not hockey. So kudos to the HEA leadership for holding the line.

All of that being said, I wouldn't object to extending regular season OT to 10 minutes.
 
Snively65 said:
Just giving this one a bump before it falls off page two, as there are a couple of great ideas for decreasing the number of ties that may deserve further discussion......, or not?
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I actually like ties. If neither team does enough to win that is how the game should end. I’d be okay with not even having an OT. The only potential change I would make is giving three points for a win.
 
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