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Hockey East Quarterfinals: #6 UNH @ #3 BU

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My take on it was:
1. High stick knocks puck down to himself and puts it in with a second touch of the puck.
2. Keenan signals good goal no need to review.
3. Jack gestures high stick to Bunyon @ center ice.
4. Bunyon talks Keenan into a review which shows high stick.
What I'm unclear about is whether the original high stick (and it clearly was) was what knocked the puck in or whether a 2d touch of the puck knocked it in. The latter would obviously NOT be reviewable.
In any event, Umile was rightfully irate that Jack convinced Bunyon to review the play when Keenan was the one who made the call.
UNH got hosed badly on that call. This comes from a BU fan BTW.
 
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steakbomb said:
My take on it was:
1. High stick knocks puck down to himself and puts it in with a second touch of the puck.
2. Keenan signals good goal no need to review.
3. Jack gestures high stick to Bunyon @ center ice.
4. Bunyon talks Keenan into a review which shows high stick.
What I'm unclear about is whether the original high stick (and it clearly was) was what knocked the puck in or whether a 2d touch of the puck knocked it in. The latter would obviously NOT be reviewable.
In any event, Umile was rightfully irate that Jack convinced Bunyon to review the play when Keenan was the one who made the call.
UNH got hosed badly on that call. This comes from a BU fan BTW.
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I don't agree that it was clearly a high stick. The replay angle leaves very few way to judge. My reference to shoulders in a previous post was only as reference points - I actually new the cross bar part of the rule. I think a good view is look the very beginning of the reply when Downing passes the goal post fully standing. The cross bar is about his arm pit. Now he is fully standing at that point. With bent legs, like a general hockey stance (you can see him extend his legs) he would maybe be shoulder at cross bar hgt. Further look at Millan in partial crouch all the way down is shoulder would be under the bar, so he is very close. That makes this play extremely close, goal called on the ice how is it possible that is conclusive to over turn?

Now there maybe a much better angle but that long review leave me with probably not. Seems like they were hunting of conclusive no high stick as opposed to conclusive evidence to over rule the call.

However we shouldn't let this academic conversation take away the fantastic game we saw. It is too bad this question exists - it is just the state of officiating in hockey east, but it "should" suck equally for all of us.
 
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JB said:
I don't agree that it was clearly a high stick. The replay angle leaves very few way to judge. My reference to shoulders in a previous post was only as reference points - I actually new the cross bar part of the rule. I think a good view is look the very beginning of the reply when Downing passes the goal post fully standing. The cross bar is about his arm pit. Now he is fully standing at that point. With bent legs, like a general hockey stance (you can see him extend his legs) he would maybe be shoulder at cross bar hgt. Further look at Millan in partial crouch all the way down is shoulder would be under the bar, so he is very close. That makes this play extremely close, goal called on the ice how is it possible that is conclusive to over turn?

Now there maybe a much better angle but that long review leave me with probably not. Seems like they were hunting of conclusive no high stick as opposed to conclusive evidence to over rule the call.

However we shouldn't let this academic conversation take away the fantastic game we saw. It is too bad this question exists - it is just the state of officiating in hockey east, but it "should" suck equally for all of us.
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I agree it's a bit of a puzzling scenario, though if it was hit with a high stick, it would be, technically, the correct call, just arrived at in an improper fashion. That said, it occurred in the first 3 minutes of an 87 minute hockey game in which UNH had 72 shots, so it'd be foolish to say this affected the outcome of the game.
 
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brassbonanza said:
I agree it's a bit of a puzzling scenario, though if it was hit with a high stick, it would be, technically, the correct call, just arrived at in an improper fashion. That said, it occurred in the first 3 minutes of an 87 minute hockey game in which UNH had 72 shots, so it'd be foolish to say this affected the outcome of the game.
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Always the problem with what I believe was a blown call - who the heck knows what happened in that parallel universe where that decision was the other way... UNH might have won 10-1 or lost 10-1...

I will note if it was reversed no goal on the ice for high stick and over turned I would still question the call. I don't see how the video is conclusive either way.
 
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I only bring it up because Keenan was originally adamant that it was a good goal. Parker gestured high stick to Bunyon who was @ center ice. He immediately nodded to Parker. I think Umile went wild because Bunyon forced Keenan to go to the video.
Not saying it was the wrong call, I just thought the way it was arrived at was interesting to see.
Either way, what a great series that was.
 
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steakbomb said:
I only bring it up because Keenan was originally adamant that it was a good goal. Parker gestured high stick to Bunyon who was @ center ice. He immediately nodded to Parker. I think Umile went wild because Bunyon forced Keenan to go to the video.
Not saying it was the wrong call, I just thought the way it was arrived at was interesting to see.
Either way, what a great series that was.
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Seems botched all around. If Bunyon saw it was a high stick, he can just waive it off right away for that and be done with it.
 
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C-H-C said:
Aside from the final outcome, I thoroughly enjoyed the three games at the Agganis Arena. It's a great place to watch a hockey game.

"Climactic Finale to UNH Season"
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Nice job. And we hope to see UNH at the Garden next year (hopefully with us [BU] as well). There's just something missing when they're not there...one of the flagship teams, going way back to the old ECAC. Good luck!
 
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