Hockey East 2020-2021

[J.D.]

Yes there is no help for me for wanting life to try and resume after 8 months. Nothing will please people like you. Nothing.

I shouldn't limit it to me either since the likes of Norm Bazin, Jerry York, Greg Carvel are all ok with playing. The list goes on. But we're all just a bunch of selfish a-holes with no regard for human life. Maybe you should let Norm know how you feel and stop following UML since you're so distraught.

 

[J.D.]

OK, what specifically has BC Football done differently that other teams that have had cases? Or have they just been lucky?

I am certainly not claiming to know the answer to this. Just pointing it out as an example that has worked. But even then, when everyone decided they were going to play you make that decision knowing COVID cases will come up.

 

[J.D.]

But on that same freaking campus, the swimming and diving team had 13 cases!

How many times do you want to have this conversation? Say it zlax, you want the season canceled. Say it loud and proud. Or go talk to your PC "buddies".

 

[J.D.]

When does a Hockey East team have an issue like Wisconsin is going to? https://twitter.com/toddmilewski/status/1332822676105203714?s=21

You mean one positive test?

 

[leswp1]

Yes there is no help for me for wanting life to try and resume after 8 months. Nothing will please people like you. Nothing.

Well, good for you wanting to resume life after 8 months. Are you for real? I have friends sleeping in their garages because it isn't safe for them to be with their families because of their job (not to mention the ones who have been sick for months and not getting better). There are plenty of Nurses, Docs, first responders, folks that have people dead in the ground wanting to get back to normal too. But they don't get what they want either. What is the matter with people who think they get to quit playing pandemic because they are tired of it. That is what is killing people. You don't get what you want when other people can die for it or stay sick for months. This isn't about pleasing 'people like me' and people 'like you' are the reason that we are taking so long to get over this. Freaking pull up you big boy undies and realize wishing and wanting is not what is going to get us out of this. Expecting other people to sacrifice so you can pretend things are normal is really disturbing

 

[J.D.]

Talk to Norm. Let him know you think he's a selfish a-hole and will no longer support UML hockey.

 

[The Zlax45]

You mean one positive test?

I mean four forwards being out of a game and only nine forwards left on the entire roster this is real good right?.

It is just a matter of time this happens in Hockey East and someone will be complaining.

 

[Drew S.]

OK, what specifically has BC Football done differently that other teams that have had cases? Or have they just been lucky?

I wonder about this myself. If BC football can go five months without any positive tests no reason the majority of hockey east schools can’t do the same. The frustrating thing for me is right when games were supposed to start you had this popping up. Once November came around there should have been precautions in place but obviously that hasn’t happened. I desperately want the season to happen but it seems like things have failed miserably so far.

 

[The Zlax45]

I wonder about this myself. If BC football can go five months without any positive tests no reason the majority of hockey east schools can’t do the same. The frustrating thing for me is right when games were supposed to start you had this popping up. Once November came around there should have been precautions in place but obviously that hasn’t happened. I desperately want the season to happen but it seems like things have failed miserably so far.

And the commish has been SILENT!

 

[The Zlax45]

I wonder about this myself. If BC football can go five months without any positive tests no reason the majority of hockey east schools can’t do the same. The frustrating thing for me is right when games were supposed to start you had this popping up. Once November came around there should have been precautions in place but obviously that hasn’t happened. I desperately want the season to happen but it seems like things have failed miserably so far.

Stony Brook and Bryant men's hoops on Wednesday had a game official test positive canceling a game. This has been the trend this week.

 

[Chuck Murray]

And the commish has been SILENT!

The so-called commish has been MIA for 121 days and counting. There's a thread on it even.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Yes there is no help for me for wanting life to try and resume after 8 months. Nothing will please people like you. Nothing.

I shouldn't limit it to me either since the likes of Norm Bazin, Jerry York, Greg Carvel are all ok with playing. The list goes on. But we're all just a bunch of selfish a-holes with no regard for human life. Maybe you should let Norm know how you feel and stop following UML since you're so distraught.

It just blows me away so many folks want to see all activities ceased. Are you really sports fans?

Where is the outcry about stopping college sports due to a spate of head injuries/knee injuries?

Those are much more realistic threats to the health and safety of elite college age athletes.

Jerry York is well over 70 years old. If he's good with playing, who are any of you to question him?

Wouldn't he qualify as the "expert" that some of you folks worship and subjugate your lives to?

 

[net presence]

Perhaps you should write a tearful letter to Steve Metcalf urging them not to play. When they decided they were going to play, positive COVID cases was always going to happen. As far as I know there hasn't been an outbreak within the league. How many positive cases have there been?

And here's a newsflash for you. I have never said it's about me. Players, coaches and administrators want to play. And if they put in the time and effort to develop a plan and protocol, give it a go. I am not going to demand every aspect of life be shutdown until there isn't a single COVID case on the planet. So please write a letter to Hockey East explaining your dismay and anger that they have the audacity to try and play hockey after 8 ****ing months of this bull****. Tell em you don't think anyone should do anything till 2022. Let me know what they say.

J.D....specifically what is the "bull****" you are referring to?

 

[net presence]

Even the Canada Junior National Team is having COVID issues

https://twitter.com/toddmilewski/status/1331767635206410240?s=21

Which, for those of us that believe in science, we understand that with an aerosolized virus -- meaning, it can hang in the air for as long as a few hours in indoor settings, like around the bench area in a rink when players are breathing hard after they come off from a shift and they're sitting shoulder-to-shoulder -- along with the fact that as many as 40% are asymptomatic, it's not surprising that hockey (and B-Ball) are extremely hard to play without significant transmission/infection risk. Especially when general community spread is as high as it is across the country.

 

[net presence]

You mean one positive test?

J.D....quit being an a**, you know what they meant. Wisconsin had two defensemen, one recently recovered from his 2nd ACL injury in two years, having to play forward. I happen to know both of those kids very well, and neither has played a shift of forward since they were in Squirts. That's not good for the game and it sure as hell isn't good for them either. The point is, none of us "want" the season canceled. However, WE understand how the transmission of this virus works and, we also understand that, as much as we love the game -- I actually earn my living off of it -- it's not more important than the preventable loss of any one person's life. Or, the possible life-long disability of developing myocarditis or lung scarring or psychological issues. Any of which, may not be noticeable until they're in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.

As for the coaches you mentioned being "OK" with trying to play...of course they are. Their entire lives have been devoted to the game "being played". They're naturally going to be predisposed to wanting to "make it work". If you're that lacking in your ability to understand basic human attachment bias, I don't know what else to tell you. I actually know two of the coaches pretty well and, I'm not surprised they're trying to push forward.

 

[net presence]

It just blows me away so many folks want to see all activities ceased. Are you really sports fans?

Where is the outcry about stopping college sports due to a spate of head injuries/knee injuries?

Those are much more realistic threats to the health and safety of elite college age athletes.

Jerry York is well over 70 years old. If he's good with playing, who are any of you to question him?

Wouldn't he qualify as the "expert" that some of you folks worship and subjugate your lives to?

Jesus F***ing Christ Chuck...seriously? Where is the outcry about stopping all college sports due to a spate of head and knee injuries...?!? Please provide specific examples when one player's ACL tear was directly responsible for a 60 plus year old grandmother with diabetes to pass away. Or multiple different deaths for that matter. And, how do you know that deep down inside Jerry is truly OK with playing? You sitting in his basement with him discussing it? My guess is not. You do realize that leaders in various organizations often say things they know aren't true to maintain morale for their "troops" right? And no, Jerry isn't an expert in contagious viral diseases that I'm aware of. At least, he hasn't mentioned it the two times I had beers with him and his staff... rolls eyes...

 

[J.D.]

I wonder about this myself. If BC football can go five months without any positive tests no reason the majority of hockey east schools can’t do the same. The frustrating thing for me is right when games were supposed to start you had this popping up. Once November came around there should have been precautions in place but obviously that hasn’t happened. I desperately want the season to happen but it seems like things have failed miserably so far.

Appreciate the rational take. I am sure precautions are in place but in the end you can't monitor their activities 24/7. Of however many positive tests Hockey East has had so far, who really knows how those individuals got it. For BC football, have they been lucky? Maybe. But it also points to players taking it seriously and doing what is needed to play football. For college age kids to have that discipline, they deserve a lot of credit.

Building off this, football has a lot more players than hockey. So in theory you have a better chance of getting through a hockey season relatively unscathed. This idea that they shouldn't at least try to play is crazy to me though. We already had the end of last year called off and people now want the entire season scrapped without attempting to play. How is anyone supposed to know when all these players will be vaccinated? Is that what people want to wait for? Enough.

 

[J.D.]

Stony Brook and Bryant men's hoops on Wednesday had a game official test positive canceling a game. This has been the trend this week.

There have also been plenty of games played. That's how it's going to be. There will be postponements and cancellations as part of this.

 

[Split-N]

So Far there have been positive cases in PC X 3 different outbreaks- half their team has tested positive. UNH, Maine, NUUML for sure. BC pretty sure...

Not sure what "NUUML" means but if the NU part refers to Northeastern, there have been no positive tests from anyone directly or indirectly associated with men's hockey. Zero. And no indirect involvement through contact tracing, either. The NU-UML season opening series got cancelled because men's hockey became collateral damage when all varsity sports were paused because of an outbreak involving a couple of women's teams.

 

[BC/HE]

As for playing or not playing during this pandemic there has to be some kind of balance involved. It seems that most college sports have been doing just that, playing and cancelling or postponing when necessary. I understand the desire to stop any preventable deaths from Covid but people die because of the lockdowns too. Substance abuse, obesity and suicides are direct results of it. Poor health decisions are being made by delaying care that lead to deaths also. The number of Covid deaths is inflated as well due to declaring them Covid if anyone had a positive Covid test in the past 90 days even if they die for any other reason. The additional premium for hospitals if they declare Covid as cause of death also gives false numbers as some patients are called that just because they showed some symptoms but never tested positive. One thing that should be considered is prioritizing the vaccine when available for anyone that deals with college age or younger be they professors, coaches, teachers, or staff. Also the most vulnerable should get priority such as those in nursing homes and their caregivers. That way a huge portion of this country could return to normal opening up things for parents as well so they can go about life without needing to be caregivers all the time.