Hockey East: 2019/20 season is Joe Bertagna's last as commish

[The Zlax45]

I don’t think the social media matters that much. To me the much bigger issue is the scheduling. It’s gone completely to hell in the last 10 years and doesn’t show any signs of getting better. Pretty hard to understand why they would make Northeastern travel to Maine in the weekend between beanpot games.

A majority of Hockey East fans couldn’t name every single head coach if they were standing in front of them with no nameplates. Is this good for the league? Absolutely not and with college athletics attendance down pretty much across the country, it isn’t a good trend

 

[BC/HE]

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If a breakup occurred I see the 4 original non-America East teams (BU, BC, NU, PC) joining with UMass and UConn to form a new Hockey East. However, the article on CHN implies that the idea of being part of America East was not well received and not likely to happen.Sean

Forget this bus league proposition, look to the future and make it a public transportation league. Drop UMass and UConn and add in Holy Cross and Bentley. UML and Merrimack would not qualify because there is a 1 hour travel limit and Providence throws them out.

 

[Chris_NH]

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Forget this bus league proposition, look to the future and make it a public transportation league. Drop UMass and UConn and add in Holy Cross and Bentley. UML and Merrimack would not qualify because there is a 1 hour travel limit and Providence throws them out.

I like this a LOT.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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Forget this bus league proposition, look to the future and make it a public transportation league. Drop UMass and UConn and add in Holy Cross and Bentley. UML and Merrimack would not qualify because there is a 1 hour travel limit and Providence throws them out.

I'm confused how Holy Cross qualifies under the 1 hour travel limit.

And you may joke about it, but back when everyone played at Boston Arena I recall reading that BU got to the rink by public transportation. I believe BC and Harvard did likewise.

Sean

 

[BC/HE]

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I'm confused how Holy Cross qualifies under the 1 hour travel limit.

And you may joke about it, but back when everyone played at Boston Arena I recall reading that BU got to the rink by public transportation. I believe BC and Harvard did likewise.

Sean

While it may be 1hr 15m by train Boston to Worcester it is less than 1 hour by car from BU, the furthest east team. Worcester is within an hour of Providence too, so if you want to blame anyone for being left out of this blame PC. But you wouldn't want to trade PC for Merrimack and UML because then it would be an odd number of teams.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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IMHO, Hockey East will seek to affiliate with America East when the NCHC seeks to affiliate with the Horizon League. BOOM.

The Summit League would be more likely ( ... think: UND, DU, UNO ... ).

 

[tape]

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Forget this bus league proposition, look to the future and make it a public transportation league. Drop UMass and UConn and add in Holy Cross and Bentley. UML and Merrimack would not qualify because there is a 1 hour travel limit and Providence throws them out.

The Lowell train takes 50 minutes and the Worcester train takes 90 minutes. What are you even talking about

 

[BC/HE]

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The Lowell train takes 50 minutes and the Worcester train takes 90 minutes. What are you even talking about

Lowell from Boston is ok but Lowell to Providence is too long even by car so that is where Lowell is over an hour away. Boston to Worcester and Worcester to Providence are within the hour if going by car but you can still go by train and use public transportation if you want a long ride and bus from Worcester to Providence is under an hour too. This is turning out way more complicated than intended. Maybe we should just petition the NCAA for a 4 team walking league.

 

[Sean Pickett]

Lowell from Boston is ok but Lowell to Providence is too long even by car so that is where Lowell is over an hour away. Boston to Worcester and Worcester to Providence are within the hour if going by car but you can still go by train and use public transportation if you want a long ride and bus from Worcester to Providence is under an hour too. This is turning out way more complicated than intended. Maybe we should just petition the NCAA for a 4 team walking league.

Not to mention that city to city also depends on what locations you are using. You can walk to the DCU Center from the Worcester train station, as well as from Back Bay to Matthews, in a few minutes, but from Conte, Agganis or Schneider you would need to take the subway or a bus, which would add time.

Also, I don’t believe any public transit buses run between Boston and Worcester, so you would have to take the train. BTW, BU used to take the train to UNH in the thirties. One year the game ended in a tie without overtime as BU had to catch the train back to Boston.

Sean

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Please understand a westerner like me looks at "90 minutes" and chuckles. I have just under 90 minutes one way by car to watch a home game at The Ralph (and I have season tickets).

Mariucci (UMn) to National Hockey Center (SCSU) is 90 minutes and that's the closest to Evil Goldie's house.

90 minutes indeed.

 

[ticapnews]

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Please understand a westerner like me looks at "90 minutes" and chuckles. I have just under 90 minutes one way by car to watch a home game at The Ralph (and I have season tickets).

Mariucci (UMn) to National Hockey Center (SCSU) is 90 minutes and that's the closest to Evil Goldie's house.

90 minutes indeed.

Please understand someone from California looks at "westerner like me" and chuckles.

 

[Snively65]

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This time of the season someone used to run weekly probabilities of HEA end of regular season standings. With only 5 points separating one through nine, this end season's probabilities would be interesting to see.

 

[sameoldfury]

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I don't get into the weeds with the analysis but this is what I have:


Pts Max Possible end rank
-----------------------HOME ICE--------------------------------
------------------------Playoffs----------------------------------
UMA 24 34 1-9
UML 22 34 1-9
BC 22 36 1-9
BU 21 33 1-10
UM 20 30 1-10
UC 20 32 1-10
NU 19 33 1-10
UNH 19 29 1-10
PC 19 29 1-10
MC 13 21 4-11
------------------------OUT----------------------------------------
UVM 3 15 10-11

For instance, UMA probably can't finish 9th given the match ups of the teams below there probably aren't enough points to go around, I'm too lazy to do that much work. So instead, I base my possibilities strictly on each team's current points and maximum possible points.

I miss that old post, I forget who used to do it.

 

[ScottK]

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I don't get into the weeds with the analysis but this is what I have:


Pts Max Possible end rank
-----------------------HOME ICE--------------------------------
------------------------Playoffs----------------------------------
UMA 24 34 1-9
UML 22 34 1-9
BC 22 36 1-9
BU 21 33 1-10
UM 20 30 1-10
UC 20 32 1-10
NU 19 33 1-10
UNH 19 29 1-10
PC 19 29 1-10
MC 13 21 4-11
------------------------OUT----------------------------------------
UVM 3 15 10-11

For instance, UMA probably can't finish 9th given the match ups of the teams below there probably aren't enough points to go around, I'm too lazy to do that much work. So instead, I base my possibilities strictly on each team's current points and maximum possible points.

I miss that old post, I forget who used to do it.

Actually, Merrimack can't finish higher than 5th, they are out of the home ice race. While they could still technically catch BU, either UConn or Maine will be out of reach of them after tonight. They could be eliminated from the playoffs altogether tonight if certain games go the wrong way for them.

Nobody has clinched a playoff spot yet, and nobody will tonight.

 

[ticapnews]

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I don't get into the weeds with the analysis but this is what I have:


Pts Max Possible end rank
-----------------------HOME ICE--------------------------------
------------------------Playoffs----------------------------------
UMA 24 34 1-9
UML 22 34 1-9
BC 22 36 1-9
BU 21 33 1-10
UM 20 30 1-10
UC 20 32 1-10
NU 19 33 1-10
UNH 19 29 1-10
PC 19 29 1-10
MC 13 21 4-11
------------------------OUT----------------------------------------
UVM 3 15 10-11

For instance, UMA probably can't finish 9th given the match ups of the teams below there probably aren't enough points to go around, I'm too lazy to do that much work. So instead, I base my possibilities strictly on each team's current points and maximum possible points.

I miss that old post, I forget who used to do it.

It is highly unlikely but UMA can in fact still finish 9th. With the various tiebreakers and the remaining schedule, I can't get Merrimack higher than 7th.

 

[brassbonanza]

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I miss that old post, I forget who used to do it.

Todd! I can't imagine the back and forths he'd have with the Hockey East office trying to determine tiebreakers this season.

 

[sameoldfury]

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Like I said.. I'm too lazy to do the full analysis

 

[Patman]

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HEA tiebreakers are reasonably straightforward. Once we are at the end it wont be that bad to figure out.

The tough thing would be to do the write out of scenarios if it remains this tight to the last weekend of the season.

 

[Sean Pickett]

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HEA tiebreakers are reasonably straightforward. Once we are at the end it wont be that bad to figure out.

Except for multi-way ties in which case "If more than two teams finish in a tie, the same criteria will be applied to reduce the number of teams tied, and then the process will commence again. In the event that teams have an uneven amount of games against other opponents in a three-way (or more) tie, winning percentage will be the tiebreaker." However, some years the league dropped the last team and then reapplied the tiebreakers , until the last remaining team got the highest seed and some years they just took the best team and gave it the highest seed and then reapplied the tiebreakers until the last remaining team got the lowest seed. Todd showed one year that how you applied the multi-way tiebreakers changed the seedings.

Sean

 

[sameoldfury]

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Now I got:

-----Pts---Max---Potential
-----------------------HOME ICE--------------------------------
------------------------Playoffs----------------------------------
BC 24 36 1-9
UMA 24 34 1-9
BU 23 33 1-9
UML 22 34 1-9
UM 22 30 1-9
NU 21 33 1-9
PC 21 29 1-9
UC 20 30 1-9
UNH 19 27 1-9
------------------------OUT----------------------------------------
MC 13 19 10
UVM 3 13 11