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I don't think that one death has ever resulted in this many posts here before.
Peter Jennings was close. But he wasn't in movies so I don't think he got quite this many.
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He's dead, Jim.
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Peter Jennings was close. But he wasn't in movies so I don't think he got quite this many.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
One thing that stood out to me was the reaction of people in my age range (25-35), a lot of sadness and shock. I imagine it's a bit of a surprise to older folks but to 90's kids Robin Williams was a big part of our childhood.
I don't think that one death has ever resulted in this many posts here before.
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Re: He's dead, Jim.
The cover of the Toronto Sun is causing quite the stir. Don't have a link, but it's a full page picture of Robin with the headline "SAD CLOWN"
The cover of the Toronto Sun is causing quite the stir. Don't have a link, but it's a full page picture of Robin with the headline "SAD CLOWN"
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: He's dead, Jim.
I think part of it was the number of people who were impacted by his works and the very public battle with depression and drugs.
I know DPS played a fairly large role in my formative years. Seeing that movie when I did probably changed my life. I know it changed the lives of many of the others I saw it with at that camp in NY one summer.
I don't think that one death has ever resulted in this many posts here before.
I think part of it was the number of people who were impacted by his works and the very public battle with depression and drugs.
I know DPS played a fairly large role in my formative years. Seeing that movie when I did probably changed my life. I know it changed the lives of many of the others I saw it with at that camp in NY one summer.
Re: He's dead, Jim.
He was even funny while insulting me and my homeland!
And this shows his support for the troops.
http://youtu.be/QD9QAAEfQEA
He was even funny while insulting me and my homeland!
And this shows his support for the troops.
http://youtu.be/QD9QAAEfQEA
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Re: He's dead, Jim.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tmrw's <a href="https://twitter.com/TheTorontoSun">@TheTorontoSun</a> front page and <a href="https://twitter.com/billharris_tv">@billharris_tv</a> column on Robin Williams the Sad Clown. <a href="http://t.co/MoFdH9YEN7">http://t.co/MoFdH9YEN7</a> <a href="http://t.co/xdGHMdvJBC">pic.twitter.com/xdGHMdvJBC</a></p>— Jon McCarthy (@jonmccarthySUN) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmccarthySUN/statuses/499029616200540161">August 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Tmrw's <a href="https://twitter.com/TheTorontoSun">@TheTorontoSun</a> front page and <a href="https://twitter.com/billharris_tv">@billharris_tv</a> column on Robin Williams the Sad Clown. <a href="http://t.co/MoFdH9YEN7">http://t.co/MoFdH9YEN7</a> <a href="http://t.co/xdGHMdvJBC">pic.twitter.com/xdGHMdvJBC</a></p>— Jon McCarthy (@jonmccarthySUN) <a href="https://twitter.com/jonmccarthySUN/statuses/499029616200540161">August 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Re: He's dead, Jim.
I am saddened to learn of Robin Williams passing. He was a unique and diverse talent. Personally I thought he was better in drama than in comedy. For me his portrayals in Awakenings, DPS, and Good Will Hunting and the poignant moments in Good Morning Vietnam were his best works.
It is such a horrible shame that as a society we do not talk as openly about mental illness as we should. We have no problems complaining and talking about having a cold or even cancer or any other illness but when it comes to mental illness we all treat it as a taboo topic when we should do the opposite. We would not hesitate to tell a person who has the flu to see a doctor and do everything we could for them but we become uncertain how to talk and act when a friend or loved one has a mental illness.
While I have never suffered from mental illness (that I am aware of) I have had two people who are very close to me struggle with mental illness. It was/is hard to talk about it to them even when they were struggling and needed help the most. I can only imagine what they endured. I hope even more awareness will be brought to this topic with Robin’s untimely passing.
I am saddened to learn of Robin Williams passing. He was a unique and diverse talent. Personally I thought he was better in drama than in comedy. For me his portrayals in Awakenings, DPS, and Good Will Hunting and the poignant moments in Good Morning Vietnam were his best works.
It is such a horrible shame that as a society we do not talk as openly about mental illness as we should. We have no problems complaining and talking about having a cold or even cancer or any other illness but when it comes to mental illness we all treat it as a taboo topic when we should do the opposite. We would not hesitate to tell a person who has the flu to see a doctor and do everything we could for them but we become uncertain how to talk and act when a friend or loved one has a mental illness.
While I have never suffered from mental illness (that I am aware of) I have had two people who are very close to me struggle with mental illness. It was/is hard to talk about it to them even when they were struggling and needed help the most. I can only imagine what they endured. I hope even more awareness will be brought to this topic with Robin’s untimely passing.
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MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: He's dead, Jim.
There's a horrible stigma. People still look at you funny when you say that you've gone to therapy. I had really bad depression after I got fired from a job I'd be at for 5 years. I was trying to put up a brave front, but I couldn't. I went to a therapist and I finally admitted it to my father and he laid into me saying "No one will hire you if you got to a shrink," and "Suck it up." However, I kept going and managed to be a somewhat sane person. (Although some people may think otherwise on this board.) I still have adversity, but I'm more equipped to handle it.
I do hope that some people realize that a person can hurt inside despite putting up a front.
There's a horrible stigma. People still look at you funny when you say that you've gone to therapy. I had really bad depression after I got fired from a job I'd be at for 5 years. I was trying to put up a brave front, but I couldn't. I went to a therapist and I finally admitted it to my father and he laid into me saying "No one will hire you if you got to a shrink," and "Suck it up." However, I kept going and managed to be a somewhat sane person. (Although some people may think otherwise on this board.) I still have adversity, but I'm more equipped to handle it.
I do hope that some people realize that a person can hurt inside despite putting up a front.
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Re: He's dead, Jim.
Shep Smith covered himself in glory by calling Robin Williams a coward (he has since apologized).
This is the story of Trenni Kusnierek of CNSNE and NBCSN and her battle with depression. http://www.milwaukeemag.com/article/9182012-thetrennikusnierekyoudontknow
I have had depression ever since my surgery and it manifested itself two years ago. It was later attributed to a drug I started taking that week, but it serves as a constant reminder. If you need help, call your doctor or go to http://www.dbsalliance.org/site/PageServer?pagename=peer_support_group_locator to find a support group near you. They even do online support groups. Get the help you need. This is a disease no different from a heart condition. Don't allow yourself to be victimized by the disease AND the stigma surrounding it. Assistance is available. Use it.
Shep Smith covered himself in glory by calling Robin Williams a coward (he has since apologized).
This is the story of Trenni Kusnierek of CNSNE and NBCSN and her battle with depression. http://www.milwaukeemag.com/article/9182012-thetrennikusnierekyoudontknow
I have had depression ever since my surgery and it manifested itself two years ago. It was later attributed to a drug I started taking that week, but it serves as a constant reminder. If you need help, call your doctor or go to http://www.dbsalliance.org/site/PageServer?pagename=peer_support_group_locator to find a support group near you. They even do online support groups. Get the help you need. This is a disease no different from a heart condition. Don't allow yourself to be victimized by the disease AND the stigma surrounding it. Assistance is available. Use it.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: He's dead, Jim.
This
I've never been in a position where I've needed it, but it's important to remind everyone about its availability.
This
I've never been in a position where I've needed it, but it's important to remind everyone about its availability.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: He's dead, Jim.
I've fought depression and anxiety. They are biochemical deficiencies, not character traits. I've found tremendous relief through anti-anxiety meds and they have improved my life greatly.
People have become far more educated about this over the last 30 years and much of the troglodytism here, as elsewhere, is dying out. The important thing to remember is it's just a medical condition, like diabetes. Nobody tells somebody with diabetes to "man up." So if you feel you may have a problem see a doctor (do NOT self-medicate, that only makes things worse), and if you're one of those dwindling number of people who think this is about strength of character, go read a book -- don't be That Guy.
I've fought depression and anxiety. They are biochemical deficiencies, not character traits. I've found tremendous relief through anti-anxiety meds and they have improved my life greatly.
People have become far more educated about this over the last 30 years and much of the troglodytism here, as elsewhere, is dying out. The important thing to remember is it's just a medical condition, like diabetes. Nobody tells somebody with diabetes to "man up." So if you feel you may have a problem see a doctor (do NOT self-medicate, that only makes things worse), and if you're one of those dwindling number of people who think this is about strength of character, go read a book -- don't be That Guy.
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MountieBoyOz
Eater of Worlds
Re: He's dead, Jim.
The one thing I noticed in my father is that his attitude change when he saw that I was handling things better. I told him I needed to see someone and I did. I didn't even need meds, I just needed to talk to someone that was a third party and listened. Most people assume that therapists just give people pills, but that's not always the case. The whole baby situation with my wife would've had me off the edge if I didn't get therapy.
The one thing I noticed in my father is that his attitude change when he saw that I was handling things better. I told him I needed to see someone and I did. I didn't even need meds, I just needed to talk to someone that was a third party and listened. Most people assume that therapists just give people pills, but that's not always the case. The whole baby situation with my wife would've had me off the edge if I didn't get therapy.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: He's dead, Jim.
Certainly true. There's lots of treatment options, which is another reason it's important to get a qualified medical opinion. Some treatments are primarily behavioral -- since brain chemistry is part and parcel of physical health, often exercise and diet are part of the approach. At the end of the day, it's all a physical substrate that supports electrical and mechanical processes, so it's not a shock that you have to tend the machinery. Sometimes it's just about learning strategies to deal with problems. My parents came out of engineering and medicine and they were a lot more enlightened than most people born in the 20s, but even they had doubts about actually seeking real treatment -- not because of stigma but because that sounded like an avoidance strategy. But as with you, there's no arguing with results.
Certainly true. There's lots of treatment options, which is another reason it's important to get a qualified medical opinion. Some treatments are primarily behavioral -- since brain chemistry is part and parcel of physical health, often exercise and diet are part of the approach. At the end of the day, it's all a physical substrate that supports electrical and mechanical processes, so it's not a shock that you have to tend the machinery. Sometimes it's just about learning strategies to deal with problems. My parents came out of engineering and medicine and they were a lot more enlightened than most people born in the 20s, but even they had doubts about actually seeking real treatment -- not because of stigma but because that sounded like an avoidance strategy. But as with you, there's no arguing with results.
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Re: He's dead, Jim.
I would disagree with you here. While mental health (not just depression) awareness is much better, I do not think that the stigma of it is appreciably less today that it was years ago. Just my $.02.
I would disagree with you here. While mental health (not just depression) awareness is much better, I do not think that the stigma of it is appreciably less today that it was years ago. Just my $.02.
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Re: He's dead, Jim.
A thought-provoking article by Matt Walsh http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/08/12/robin-williams-didnt-die-disease-died-choice/
I have mixed feelings about this...
A thought-provoking article by Matt Walsh http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/08/12/robin-williams-didnt-die-disease-died-choice/
I have mixed feelings about this...
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: He's dead, Jim.
It's like any other social advance: it starts with eccentrics, intellectuals and other fringe elements who are outside of mass pressures anyway if not actively hostile to them, then slowly and painfully permeates out through education levels, with local variation for geography. It's probably still a crippling stigma among the same sort of people who are, say, homophobic or racist or whatever. But with each decade more and more people realize that's stupid, and there are fewer and fewer people left with the old biases. The veil of ignorance lifts gradually, but it lifts.
It's like any other social advance: it starts with eccentrics, intellectuals and other fringe elements who are outside of mass pressures anyway if not actively hostile to them, then slowly and painfully permeates out through education levels, with local variation for geography. It's probably still a crippling stigma among the same sort of people who are, say, homophobic or racist or whatever. But with each decade more and more people realize that's stupid, and there are fewer and fewer people left with the old biases. The veil of ignorance lifts gradually, but it lifts.
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