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Not sure where it's best to post this, but a very interesting perspective on marijuana from a career high school teacher I saw over on Facebook:

“I hate pot. I hate it even more than hard drugs. I’ve taught high school for 25 years and I hate what marijuana does to my students. It goes beyond missing homework assignments. My students become less curious when they start smoking pot. I’ve seen it time and time again. People say pot makes you more creative, but from what I’ve seen, it narrows my students' minds until they only reference the world in relation to the drug. They’ll say things like: “I went to the beach and got so high,” or “I went to a concert and got so high.” They start choosing their friends based on the drug. I hate when people say that it’s just experimenting. Because from what I’ve seen, it’s when my students stop experimenting.”
 
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St. Clown said:
Get a Mac! :D
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Why would he want to make it worse?

And reading more about this VW stuff, they're ****ed. 11 million cars worldwide? They not only have EPA issues, they'll have EU problems too. To knowingly circumvent regulations to this extent is blatant disregard for the law, and I can't imagine that the EPA is going to take it anything close to lightly.
 
bigblue_dl said:
Why would he want to make it worse?

And reading more about this VW stuff, they're ****ed. 11 million cars worldwide? They not only have EPA issues, they'll have EU problems too. To knowingly circumvent regulations to this extent is blatant disregard for the law, and I can't imagine that the EPA is going to take it anything close to lightly.
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Karma is already getting to VW. Wolfsburg is losing to Bayern Munich 5-1...

:D
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Why would he want to make it worse?
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Just rehashing the joke of when people have issues with a PC, it's the inevitable response. I thought it would be funny here as he's running an Android phone and a Mac is certainly not a phone.

bigblue_dl said:
And reading more about this VW stuff, they're ****ed. 11 million cars worldwide? They not only have EPA issues, they'll have EU problems too. To knowingly circumvent regulations to this extent is blatant disregard for the law, and I can't imagine that the EPA is going to take it anything close to lightly.
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I'm thinking Germany might step in through back channels to make a plea with the EPA to not be too hard on VW. The company is huge in Germany, like 1960s GM big for the US equivalent. It could seriously damage an already shaky European economy.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
This person sounds like someone who has never seen a hard drug user or chronic alcoholic in their entire life. Just sayin'.
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I think it's his way of saying that he hates the insidious nature of marijuana and its social acceptance in comparison to (at least for now) society still largely rejecting hard drugs. Not that that's the main point of what is being said.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I think it's his way of saying that he hates the insidious nature of marijuana and its social acceptance in comparison to (at least for now) society still largely rejecting hard drugs. Not that that's the main point of what is being said.
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Fair enough.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I think it's his way of saying that he hates the insidious nature of marijuana and its social acceptance in comparison to (at least for now) society still largely rejecting hard drugs. Not that that's the main point of what is being said.
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I agree with that interpretation, though I think he's wrong. My Mom (wow, twice in one day) was an RN who worked with alcoholics and hard drug users, and she used to say that alcohol was actually far more destructive because (1) it was always there as a legal temptation even when the patient was released back into society, and (2) because alcoholics were erroneously considered "in recovery," whereas addicts were always (correctly) considered "in remission."
 
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Kepler said:
I agree with that interpretation, though I think he's wrong. My Mom (wow, twice in one day) was an RN who worked with alcoholics and hard drug users, and she used to say that alcohol was actually far more destructive because (1) it was always there as a legal temptation even when the patient was released back into society, and (2) because alcoholics were erroneously considered "in recovery," whereas addicts were always (correctly) considered "in remission."
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I wouldn't say, as this person did, that marijuana is worse than hard drugs as a general proposition, but again, the main point was marijuana's negative effect on students, not a debate of which is worse. If this person exaggerated a little in saying hard drugs aren't as bad, that's a minor foible in making the overall point they make.
 
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Bob Gray said:
I wouldn't say, as this person did, that marijuana is worse than hard drugs as a general proposition, but again, the main point was marijuana's negative effect on students, not a debate of which is worse. If this person exaggerated a little in saying hard drugs aren't as bad, that's a minor foible in making the overall point they make.
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I understand what you're saying. I don't agree, though. I think he's mis-ascribing to marijuana what other ages have mis-ascribed to rock music or hot rods or girl/boy craziness... the vast majority of high schoolers weren't designed to be in high school, they were designed to be getting on with life on the farms and in the factories. 90% of high school students have no interest in learning other than picking up a necessary credential, so their high school days pass with all the excitement and alacrity of a wait at the DMV. We ought to have recognized this long ago and adopted a more European system with well-financed and attractive vocational school and internships. There is absolutely no point in teaching high school students who don't care calculus or chemistry -- they will never need nor understand it.

The big difference with European models should be that every kid who wants to go to high school (or college, or graduate school) should be able to go regardless of money. As long as they have the interest, the drive, and enough on the ball to make the grades, they should be able to pursue higher education. But I digress from the main point.

Pot doesn't sidetrack kids who wouldn't have been sidetracked by something else. Pretty much every kid in America smokes pot at some point between 14 and 18 -- those who become tied in with the culture as an obsession are filling up a missing space that with other kids would be filled by family, friends, learning, the arts, sports, etc. Ban pot and those kids will just cut class to talk about whatever the next escape is, because the escape is a rational response to an institution that offers them nothing.
 
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St. Clown said:
Just rehashing the joke of when people have issues with a PC, it's the inevitable response. I thought it would be funny here as he's running an Android phone and a Mac is certainly not a phone.



I'm thinking Germany might step in through back channels to make a plea with the EPA to not be too hard on VW. The company is huge in Germany, like 1960s GM big for the US equivalent. It could seriously damage an already shaky European economy.
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**** that noise. Those *******s have had a hard-on for fining US companies for a decade. But frankly, country of origin is fairly low on the list of issues. It shouldn't matter where they are from.

Flagrant violations of the law like this should be subject to massive fines and criminal charges. That company should get a kick right in the pants to let them and every other company out there that they shouldn't even ****ing think about this for a second.

I mean, what would they have to offer us in return for back channel negotiations? This is a really big deal. It should cause some damage because of just how ballsy and flagrant this was.
 
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Kepler said:
I agree with that interpretation, though I think he's wrong. My Mom (wow, twice in one day) was an RN who worked with alcoholics and hard drug users, and she used to say that alcohol was actually far more destructive because (1) it was always there as a legal temptation even when the patient was released back into society, and (2) because alcoholics were erroneously considered "in recovery," whereas addicts were always (correctly) considered "in remission."
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That is true to an extent. You don't see billboard advertisements for Pete's Wicked Smack, and there is a liquor store within a 5-15 min commute of most people. However hard drug users, due to the illicit nature of their substance of choice, are very often part of a close group of fellow addicts, and thus are within a few phone calls of someone who knows where to score. It's why keeping away from old haunts and old "friends" is always one of the most important, and most difficult, parts after acute withdrawal is complete.

And Kepler is correct about sidetracking, with reservations. I wouldn't encourage a 16 year-old to go smoke a joint in lieu of learning guitar, or working on his car. But odds are, at some point, he's probably going to inhale, and it's not necessarily something that should go on his criminal record, unless of course, he commits an actual crime while stoned.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
**** that noise. Those *******s have had a hard-on for fining US companies for a decade. But frankly, country of origin is fairly low on the list of issues. It shouldn't matter where they are from.

Flagrant violations of the law like this should be subject to massive fines and criminal charges. That company should get a kick right in the pants to let them and every other company out there that they shouldn't even ****ing think about this for a second.

I mean, what would they have to offer us in return for back channel negotiations? This is a really big deal. It should cause some damage because of just how ballsy and flagrant this was.
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Normally, I'd agree with you if only the overall situation was better for the world.

I can't say exactly what would or could be offered. I was merely thinking along the lines of Europe being on the brink, Germany being its largest economy, and risking tossing the entire continent into a deeper recession than it's already facing. The US doesn't want that. The US can't afford that. Driving the dollar any higher, considering China's issues, will create havoc for our exporters, in turn creating more challenges for economy that's currently "strong" at about 2% growth.

Add to that, VW will be facing many of these same sanctions with other national powers and the EU.
 
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The drug thing:

I've personally seen people taking/on:

cocaine, LSD, X (slightly different, IMO), marijuana, crank, and mushrooms.

The sticky icky is easily the least harmful. It's not even close.

And yes, alcohol is much more destructive.
 
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