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He says he's not dead.

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RIP Coach Paterno. I'm not here to talk about what he did or didn't do with the investigation. It's sad he's gone. I think someone brought up the point that when someone retires after working somewhere for a long time they die shortly afterwards. I wonder if it's due to routine or the stability of it.
 
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RIP Paterno. I will avoid the coverage of how great his life is because what he didn't do in reporting Sandusky bothers me too much.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
RIP Coach Paterno. I'm not here to talk about what he did or didn't do with the investigation. It's sad he's gone. I think someone brought up the point that when someone retires after working somewhere for a long time they die shortly afterwards. I wonder if it's due to routine or the stability of it.
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Sad to say, but I said on the night JoePa was fired that he would be dead within 6 months. I saw it during my law enforcement career when too many officers who retired or were forced to retire after 30 or more years were gone from heart attacks or cancer or even suicide.

As Lou Holtz said this morning on ESPN, Coach really died of a broken heart.
 
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SteveP said:
Sad to say, but I said on the night JoePa was fired that he would be dead within 6 months. I saw it during my law enforcement career when too many officers who retired or were forced to retire after 30 or more years were gone from heart attacks or cancer or even suicide.

As Lou Holtz said this morning on ESPN, Coach really died of a broken heart.
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Exactly. Also see: Johnny/June Carter Cash.
 
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I don't believe that Joe Paterno coaching (or no longer coaching, in this instance) has anything to do with his death. His death has everything to do with, well, being 85 and having lung cancer. As a matter of fact, I would argue that had he continued coaching, he may not have made it to the end of the season. It's not like he just came down with cancer right after his dismissal. It had to have been there for a while for it to take him this quickly after the diagnosis. Given the stress of his job, continuing to coach while fighting this might well have killed him before the bowl game.
 
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Hammer said:
I don't believe that Joe Paterno coaching (or no longer coaching, in this instance) has anything to do with his death. His death has everything to do with, well, being 85 and having lung cancer. As a matter of fact, I would argue that had he continued coaching, he may not have made it to the end of the season. It's not like he just came down with cancer right after his dismissal. It had to have been there for a while for it to take him this quickly after the diagnosis. Given the stress of his job, continuing to coach while fighting this might well have killed him before the bowl game.
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I can see your point, but I bet if he was still coaching, that passion for the job would keep him going for a bit longer. There was nothing really worth fighting for at this point in his life, ya know?
 
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* me?

A lot of good?

Call me crazy, but I don't equate drug addiction with looking the other way when you KNOW someone is raping children.

I suppose we should give the Catholic Church a pass also coz, you know, a lot the other stuff they were doing outside of giving pedophiles and child rapists a safe haven and home base for their activities, was you know, good.

He was college football? If so, who the **** would want to be a part of college football?

Go away Joe. Go away.
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You can shut up, maybe you're the one who should go away.
*****.
 
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First Time said:
You can shut up, maybe you're the one who should go away.
*****.
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No, you can shut up. :rolleyes:


Certainly some interesting priorities around here at times.


BTW, if it turns out that he never knew anything at any point instead of the huge cover-up that it appears to be, I will gladly post an apology. Wanna bet if I'll need to?
 
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He made mistakes, yes. That should NOT take away from his contributions, though. No one is perfect. I loved him for his contributions to the game of football, and how many people he helped in his life. I am not deifying him, but am recognizing the good that he did.

RIP, Coach.
 
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"I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him."
 
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I can see your point, but I bet if he was still coaching, that passion for the job would keep him going for a bit longer. There was nothing really worth fighting for at this point in his life, ya know?
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There have several good studies done that do show some correlation with retirement and a death soon after. But these things are hard to quantify obviously since most people do not retire until forced to by health issues and an even larger number just keep working to older ages befor eretiring. My medical experience has been that the correlation is far stronger for men than for women. Women seem to develop a far superior support system after the loss of a mate or retiring from a job. Men just have not been doing that as well or possible just do not feel the necessity to do it. It may be a little sexist or perhasps is society related. But after 40+ years of medical practice i cannot deny the statistics I have dealt with. Paterno was indeed of an age that may make all of this meaningless (85 after all is well above the average male lifespan in the US) but we will never know.
 
Gurtholfin said:
No, you can shut up. :rolleyes:


Certainly some interesting priorities around here at times.


BTW, if it turns out that he never knew anything at any point instead of the huge cover-up that it appears to be, I will gladly post an apology. Wanna bet if I'll need to?
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I don't care if you apologize or not.
You don't need to spit on the guy the day he dies.
Whether you think he did enough or not, you do not need to be an ******* about it the day he dies.
Like it or not, he is a legend in college football and I do not think his role in what Sandusky did changes that.
 
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Brenthoven said:
He made mistakes, yes. That should NOT take away from his contributions, though. No one is perfect. I loved him for his contributions to the game of football, and how many people he helped in his life. I am not deifying him, but am recognizing the good that he did.

RIP, Coach.
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But we also should keep his contributions in perspective. First and foremost- he was just a football coach. Football is merely entertainment. No progress was made for solving cancer, or reducing harmful pollution, or finding an alternative way to power stuff. Just coached football.

As for how many people he helped in life, well, these days, it's pretty easy to offset that.

Lastly- for a person to die from cancer less than 2 months from being diagnosed- he was very sick before that. Very. My grandmother lasted a year from when she was diagnosed with stomach cancer- which is very tough to eat from. Same age. In my very non medical opinion, he was sick the entire season.

So.
 
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