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ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: He says he's not dead.
I just want to know what you're talking about.
I just want to know what you're talking about.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: He says he's not dead.
I am strangely unfamiliar with the shirt, or have forgotten about it.
Re: He says he's not dead.
I'm not forgetting the bad. However, some here are ignoring the good because of the bad. That's the problem I have.
I'm not forgetting the bad. However, some here are ignoring the good because of the bad. That's the problem I have.
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Gurtholfin
Guest
Re: He says he's not dead.
The "bad" is allowing a child RAPIST to go on RAPING, allegedly. Sorry, but his role in the allowance of children to be raped, cancels out the good things that he did.
It's not a d.u.i. or uttering a racial slur. In those instances I'd be the first one here to say that we all make mistakes and people should cut him some slack.
It was the rape of defenseless children though, and ALL of the evidence so far implies that he knew about it and then passed the buck. After said passing of buck, more children were raped over the ensuing years.
As a human, and a SUPPOSED leader of young men, he should have made **** sure that the police found out about it after his superiors did nothing. The thing is, he was just trying to cover his own arse.
There's nothing more cowardly than someone who hurts children other than maybe someone with the power to protect a child who flinches because they're worried about how it might affect themselves.
The "bad" is allowing a child RAPIST to go on RAPING, allegedly. Sorry, but his role in the allowance of children to be raped, cancels out the good things that he did.
It's not a d.u.i. or uttering a racial slur. In those instances I'd be the first one here to say that we all make mistakes and people should cut him some slack.
It was the rape of defenseless children though, and ALL of the evidence so far implies that he knew about it and then passed the buck. After said passing of buck, more children were raped over the ensuing years.
As a human, and a SUPPOSED leader of young men, he should have made **** sure that the police found out about it after his superiors did nothing. The thing is, he was just trying to cover his own arse.
There's nothing more cowardly than someone who hurts children other than maybe someone with the power to protect a child who flinches because they're worried about how it might affect themselves.
Re: He says he's not dead.
Nevermind that he reported to his superiors, who did nothing. While I think JoePa should have done MORE, he isn't the devil that some here make him out to be. Seems to me that those same people are blaming him more than the do-nothing superiors, and maybe, just maybe, Sandusky himself. That's wrong, IMO.
Nevermind that he reported to his superiors, who did nothing. While I think JoePa should have done MORE, he isn't the devil that some here make him out to be. Seems to me that those same people are blaming him more than the do-nothing superiors, and maybe, just maybe, Sandusky himself. That's wrong, IMO.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: He says he's not dead.
Have I disagreed with that? But the haters have mostly not recognized the good he did. That's where I get p*ed off.
Have I disagreed with that? But the haters have mostly not recognized the good he did. That's where I get p*ed off.
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Gurtholfin
Guest
Re: He says he's not dead.
Imagine that one of them was your son. Would you think that Paterno had done enough?
Really?
That's the litmus test. It wasn't an academic violation or an improper benefit that he heard about. It was so, so much worse.
No, he's nowhere near as bad as Sandusky, not even in the same ballpark or same county, but that's not exactly saying much by itself.
Imagine that one of them was your son. Would you think that Paterno had done enough?
Really?
That's the litmus test. It wasn't an academic violation or an improper benefit that he heard about. It was so, so much worse.
No, he's nowhere near as bad as Sandusky, not even in the same ballpark or same county, but that's not exactly saying much by itself.
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Re: He says he's not dead.
When did I say he did enough?! Please, point that out. Go for it. Haters gonna hate, and it's sickening.
When did I say he did enough?! Please, point that out. Go for it. Haters gonna hate, and it's sickening.
MissThundercat
Are the cis okay?
Re: He says he's not dead.
Rest in Peace, JoePa. Like others have said, you were college football.
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Gurtholfin
Guest
Re: He says he's not dead.
Of course I'm replying to the thread in general and not just you specifically.
Obviously, this is a polarizing topic of which I get to express my opinion if I so choose. I've done that now and am done.
Of course I'm replying to the thread in general and not just you specifically.
Obviously, this is a polarizing topic of which I get to express my opinion if I so choose. I've done that now and am done.
Re: He says he's not dead.
Thank God, because it's somewhat extremist and ignorant.
Thank God, because it's somewhat extremist and ignorant.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: He says he's not dead.
Paterno publicly stated that in hindsight her wishes that he had done more. I think that everyone involved wishes that they had done more.
Unless someone comes out and says "Joe Paterno told us to bury this" this was a collective failure by those in power at PSU. Plenty of blame exists to go around to all the parties who could have and should have taken more deliberate actions. Regardless of how and when this came out, it was going to define and tarnish the Paterno legacy. Sadly, because of what he and others did not do (and what Sandusky chose to do), Paterno had to spend his final days and weeks on earth with his reputation in tatters and a fog obscuring all the good that he accomplished in his first 75 years.
Paterno was human and made a mistake, sadly he will not get a chance to atone for that mistake in the future, but everything that he had done in the past is not invalidated and should be legacy of Joe Paterno that will endure. Imagine that if things had been reversed, that Paterno had made this mistake in 1970 and then done all the good that he had done in the preceding 40 years.
Let the man rest in peace here on Earth, he will have to answer for the final judgement that we all will have to face one day.
Paterno publicly stated that in hindsight her wishes that he had done more. I think that everyone involved wishes that they had done more.
Unless someone comes out and says "Joe Paterno told us to bury this" this was a collective failure by those in power at PSU. Plenty of blame exists to go around to all the parties who could have and should have taken more deliberate actions. Regardless of how and when this came out, it was going to define and tarnish the Paterno legacy. Sadly, because of what he and others did not do (and what Sandusky chose to do), Paterno had to spend his final days and weeks on earth with his reputation in tatters and a fog obscuring all the good that he accomplished in his first 75 years.
Paterno was human and made a mistake, sadly he will not get a chance to atone for that mistake in the future, but everything that he had done in the past is not invalidated and should be legacy of Joe Paterno that will endure. Imagine that if things had been reversed, that Paterno had made this mistake in 1970 and then done all the good that he had done in the preceding 40 years.
Let the man rest in peace here on Earth, he will have to answer for the final judgement that we all will have to face one day.
Siouxfaninseattle
Fighting Sioux Fan Forever
Re: He says he's not dead.
No, it's not. He knew what had happened since 1998 or before and didn't do anything about it. Don't make him out to be a hero because he is not. He could have done something about it and chose not to.
No, it's not. He knew what had happened since 1998 or before and didn't do anything about it. Don't make him out to be a hero because he is not. He could have done something about it and chose not to.
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Deleted member 3166
Guest
Sad part is, I don't buy that he is done in any way, shape or form.
Re: He says he's not dead.
Except report to his superiors, who did nothing. Yeah, ignore that.
Yes, he should have done more. I have not backed away from that, from the details released. But the haters are ready to send him to hell, without recognizing the GOOD that he did. That bothers me. On his death day, no less.
Except report to his superiors, who did nothing. Yeah, ignore that.
Yes, he should have done more. I have not backed away from that, from the details released. But the haters are ready to send him to hell, without recognizing the GOOD that he did. That bothers me. On his death day, no less.
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To further state my position, the haters are in a black/white mode. I'm in a big time gray mode. It's not he's good OR he's bad. It's both. I'm choosing to remember the good on this particular day, and hoping (depending on pending details that will be released in the trials) that I can remember more good than bad from JoePa. It could change. This rabbit hole could run very, very deep. As of now, I think he did more good than bad, and no matter what, he WAS one of the faces of college football.
To further state my position, the haters are in a black/white mode. I'm in a big time gray mode. It's not he's good OR he's bad. It's both. I'm choosing to remember the good on this particular day, and hoping (depending on pending details that will be released in the trials) that I can remember more good than bad from JoePa. It could change. This rabbit hole could run very, very deep. As of now, I think he did more good than bad, and no matter what, he WAS one of the faces of college football.
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