Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

[DC78-82]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

What happened? Grades? Couldn't have been playing time because she was set to be a regular this season.

I'm going to hazard a guess that you don't transfer to BC because you had academic issues somewhere else. Even Cambridge. There has been speculation about the reasons for transfers on many occasions. The answer is that it isn't our business. She's having a great year thus far on Chestnut Hill, so it seems to have worked out.

 

[HockeyTeacher]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Do we know what happened to Jackie Young and Whitney Kennedy? Young was a rising sophomore and Kennedy would have been a junior. Young's loss hurts on D because we lack depth back there.

I think that you will find that they have plenty of depth and a very talented group of "D" women.... Pucci, Gedman, Romatoski, and Hayssen have had 2 years of experience to learn and grow. The 2 "newbies" Edney and Picard each "Captained" there respective National U18Teams - Canada and USA. I would venture to say that all of these young ladies are, or will be one of the best group of "D" woman in the Division I rolling forward. And to add to that, their goaltender Bellamy has looked really sharp and "right on".

The Forwards will need to prove themselves, but they also are a pretty talented group with Dempsey, Fry, and McDonald leading the way, with experienced Armstrong, Baumgartner, Chute, Parker, and Spurling needing to step up there play as they all have the talent. It has been "baptism by fire" for the Freshman class of Crowe, and Reber who have accounted themselves quite well in early play. My guess is that Armstrong, Reber, and Spurling are the "other" Players who will be highly dependent upon to pick up the slack as they will probably see a ton of ice time.

And yes I do agree with you Skate79, I do think that this TEAM will surprise a lot of folks!!!

 

[Skate79]

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I'm going to hazard a guess that you don't transfer to BC because you had academic issues somewhere else. Even Cambridge. There has been speculation about the reasons for transfers on many occasions. The answer is that it isn't our business. She's having a great year thus far on Chestnut Hill, so it seems to have worked out.

Maybe it's working out for her but for Harvard, it leaves them thin on defense. I'm glad she is doing well but as a fan of Harvard hockey, it's always disconcerting to learn that a player has decided to leave for another school. And it is only human nature to wonder about what happened regardless if you think it is none of my business to inquire.

 

[Skate79]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

I think that you will find that they have plenty of depth and a very talented group of "D" women.... Pucci, Gedman, Romatoski, and Hayssen have had 2 years of experience to learn and grow. The 2 "newbies" Edney and Picard each "Captained" there respective National U18Teams - Canada and USA. I would venture to say that all of these young ladies are, or will be one of the best group of "D" woman in the Division I rolling forward. And to add to that, their goaltender Bellamy has looked really sharp and "right on".

The Forwards will need to prove themselves, but they also are a pretty talented group with Dempsey, Fry, and McDonald leading the way, with experienced Armstrong, Baumgartner, Chute, Parker, and Spurling needing to step up there play as they all have the talent. It has been "baptism by fire" for the Freshman class of Crowe, and Reber who have accounted themselves quite well in early play. My guess is that Armstrong, Reber, and Spurling are the "other" Players who will be highly dependent upon to pick up the slack as they will probably see a ton of ice time.

And yes I do agree with you Skate79, I do think that this TEAM will surprise a lot of folks!!!

No question they have talent and I expect them to do well this year. I'm just concerned because if we get hit by injuries back there, we have no one to fall back on. We had a similar situation with our goaltending not too long ago where we had no backup for one or two games. I'm a firm believer in the adage that you can't have enough good players especially when you are playing the likes of Cornell and Minnesota.

 

[Watson Rink]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Think Young was the player to be named later in the Anna MacDonald deal? (LOL)

 

[Watson Rink]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Great that the team prevailed last night with only 9 forwards and 4 defense dressed. And interesting to see whether playing three top players down versus Cornell with (I think) 4 top players down will help or hurt the Crimson. I suspect that Cornell is very very deep, especially compared to a squad that starts with just 10 F and 6 D, and I further suspect that playing just 4 D against anybody, let alone Cornell, is not a Good Thing. Any predictions for today?

 

[D2D]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Great that the team prevailed last night with only 9 forwards and 4 defense dressed. And interesting to see whether playing three top players down versus Cornell with (I think) 4 top players down will help or hurt the Crimson. I suspect that Cornell is very very deep, especially compared to a squad that starts with just 10 F and 6 D, and I further suspect that playing just 4 D against anybody, let alone Cornell, is not a Good Thing. Any predictions for today?

Hard to say but based on how Dartmouth did last night you would think Harvard has a very good chance to beat them. If there ever was an opportune time to prevail this would certainly be it.

 

[Watson Rink]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Down 2-1 to Cornell after one period. Special teams are evidently the story since C has converted 2 of 3 power plays, H 0 of 2.On the bright side, the two H players who got the penalties that led to C's PP goals both assisted on a subsequent even-strength goal by Sarah Edney, so they're striking back.

 

[mattj711]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Down 2-1 to Cornell after one period. Special teams are evidently the story since C has converted 2 of 3 power plays, H 0 of 2.On the bright side, the two H players who got the penalties that led to C's PP goals both assisted on a subsequent even-strength goal by Sarah Edney, so they're striking back.

Harvard's goal came a couple seconds after a Cornell penalty ended so it was basically a power play goal.

 

[Watson Rink]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Boy, was I wrong: it's Cornell's one even strength goal that's now the story as the same two H players who got the penalties that C scored on, have now combined for a PP goal, thereby erasing the whole special teams angle

 

[OnMAA]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

Great that the team prevailed last night with only 9 forwards and 4 defense dressed. And interesting to see whether playing three top players down versus Cornell with (I think) 4 top players down will help or hurt the Crimson. I suspect that Cornell is very very deep, especially compared to a squad that starts with just 10 F and 6 D, and I further suspect that playing just 4 D against anybody, let alone Cornell, is not a Good Thing. Any predictions for today?

Cornell runs with a pretty short Bench as well. They normally dress 15 skaters and this weekend they are missing top two D and top two F.

 

[Skate79]

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Cornell runs with a pretty short Bench as well. They normally dress 15 skaters and this weekend they are missing top two D and top two F.

I counted 21 players including 3 goalies for Cornell. That seems to be a pretty decent bench to me. Do the math.

 

[OnMAA]

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I counted 21 players including 3 goalies for Cornell. That seems to be a pretty decent bench to me. Do the math.

But that is not the same as how many they dress for each game. I said "they normally dress 15 skaters".

Lets review the box scores of all the games Cornell has played so far
( at http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1112/schedules/corw ) to see how many dressed:

vs Colgate...15 skaters, 10F, 5D
vs Brown....14 skaters, 9F, 5D
vs Yale.....14 skaters, 9F, 5D
vs Syracuse...15 skaters, 10F, 5D
vs Dartmouth...12 skaters, 9F, 3D (plus one spare DNP)
vs Harvard....12 Skaters, 8F, 4D (plus one spare DNP)

 

[ithacat]

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But that is not the same as how many they dress for each game. I said "they normally dress 15 skaters".

Lets review the box scores of all the games Cornell has played so far
( at http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1112/schedules/corw ) to see how many dressed:

vs Colgate...15 skaters, 10F, 5D
vs Brown....14 skaters, 9F, 5D
vs Yale.....14 skaters, 9F, 5D
vs Syracuse...15 skaters, 10F, 5D
vs Dartmouth...12 skaters, 9F, 3D (plus one spare DNP)
vs Harvard....12 Skaters, 8F, 4D (plus one spare DNP)

Harvard and Dartmouth have good teams and will tough to beat on any night. Interestingly, for Cornell, its 4th D on Saturday was forward Barley-Maloney (playing her 3rd game since transferring); Hompe (the DNP) plays soccer and had just joined the team; and Mazzotta did not dress against Harvard as she got clocked during the 2nd period v Dartmouth and looked to be down for the count -- trainer came out, she got up, and finished the game.

 

[alslammerz]

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To be fair, that's Cornell's choice to dress only 15 when they have 21 on the roster. Harvard dressed 13 because that's how many players they had thanks to Four Nations. So it's not really an apt comparison.

But that is not the same as how many they dress for each game. I said "they normally dress 15 skaters".

Lets review the box scores of all the games Cornell has played so far
( at http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1112/schedules/corw ) to see how many dressed:

vs Colgate...15 skaters, 10F, 5D
vs Brown....14 skaters, 9F, 5D
vs Yale.....14 skaters, 9F, 5D
vs Syracuse...15 skaters, 10F, 5D
vs Dartmouth...12 skaters, 9F, 3D (plus one spare DNP)
vs Harvard....12 Skaters, 8F, 4D (plus one spare DNP)

 

[pakidnyc]

I counted 21 players including 3 goalies for Cornell. That seems to be a pretty decent bench to me. Do the math.

You counted 21 players where? Cornell has dressed every player they have had available every game. They do have 18 skaters and 3 goalies on the roster, but there have been players missing due to injury, soccer, Four Nations. Last weekend they had 13 skaters, including Xompe who only joined the team last week after soccer season and 2 goalies on the bench. Sat vs Harvard they had same 13 skaters and 1 goalie on the bench.

Theyre not "choosing" to dress less.

 

[pakidnyc]

To be fair, that's Cornell's choice to dress only 15 when they have 21 on the roster. Harvard dressed 13 because that's how many players they had thanks to Four Nations. So it's not really an apt comparison.

See my post just above. To be fair, they aren't choosing to dress 15 which included goalies. They have 18 skaters on the roster and not all have been available for every game. Cornell was missing 4 Canadian NATl team member and Harvard 3 US Natl team members. Both were down some good defensemen, but the difference in this game was Cornell's offensive depth. 3 of the 5 goals were scored by freshmen, one who leads the NCAA in ppg. She scored the game winner a mere 8 seconds after Harvard tied it.

 

[Skate79]

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You counted 21 players where? Cornell has dressed every player they have had available every game. They do have 18 skaters and 3 goalies on the roster, but there have been players missing due to injury, soccer, Four Nations. Last weekend they had 13 skaters, including Xompe who only joined the team last week after soccer season and 2 goalies on the bench. Sat vs Harvard they had same 13 skaters and 1 goalie on the bench.

Theyre not "choosing" to dress less.

Check the roster. And I never said anything about 'choosing'. Don't put words in my posts okay? And I'm supposed to know who's injured, who's playing soccer, etc...? If the players are listed on the roster, it means that they are available to play for Cornell. Harvard has fewer players listed and both Cornell and Harvard had players at Four Nations. Cornell had more players to draw from. Fact not fiction.

 

[pakidnyc]

Check the roster. And I never said anything about 'choosing'. Don't put words in my posts okay? And I'm supposed to know who's injured, who's playing soccer, etc...? If the players are listed on the roster, it means that they are available to play for Cornell. Harvard has fewer players listed and both Cornell and Harvard had players at Four Nations. Cornell had more players to draw from. Fact not fiction.

No, but that's the reason for the post here. It's a blog, for people to share information. They ended up with each 13 skaters and 2 goalies on the bench.

 

[comefrombehind]

Re: Harvard Women's Hockey 2011-2012: Taking the Next Step

... This team may surprise a lot of folks before the season is over. Including Cornell.

Skate79 is just disappointed no one from Cornell was surprised in Ithaca on Saturday afternoon.