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Harvard Crimson (again) 2018-19

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Ugh can't you guys do anything right

Well someone posted about Wisco’s lack of SHGs recently, and I resisted saying “Wait till you play Harvard.” BUT, what was the most striking graphic from BTN that haunted/pumped me before Wisco’s 3-2 OT win? Harvard 2-3-1. Wisconsin 13-1-0. Wow. Wow. Whose boot camp is this? (Just kidding.) Well, you guys have at the least been introduced to Reed. And no Petrie (and Heffernan). I was hoping Petrie was held out of the HC game to be ready for the Badgers . . .you know, like Gronkowski for the Packers. (When have you seen those two names appear in the same sentence?) Well, Harvard left their double-runners at home. Tomorrow will probably not go to OT, but more than that I cannot say.
 
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Princeton > Harvard for sure. Princeton deserved a better fate when they played UW, Hawvawd just about stole a win. The Hawvawd goalie is mucho awesome. It was also mucho awesome to see Pankowski exact a bit of revenge on your coach. Pankowski > Chu.
 
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When is a check not a check? When it's a DIVE. Outrageous call against Laing. In OT no less! (Prepare for more bloviating from certain Badger quarters.)
 
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When is a check not a check? When it's a DIVE. Outrageous call against Laing. In OT no less! (Prepare for more bloviating from certain Badger quarters.)

The call was a hook. It happened right in front of me; one could view it as three separate hooks, or one long continuous multi-jab hook. But at some point even the ref couldn't ignore it.
 
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When is a check not a check? When it's a DIVE. Outrageous call against Laing. In OT no less! (Prepare for more bloviating from certain Badger quarters.)

That HAD to get called, she hooker her from the blue line all the way into the corner. She'd had to have charged triple for that kind of service on the street.

Hawvawd played better tonight, but not to Princeton's level. The goalie was fantastic again. Is she a US or Canadian Citizen? She needs to be on one of their radars, made some crazy good saves.
 
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Ugh can't you guys do anything right

I think the fact that a very young team with a freshman goalie went out to the #1 team's barn and forced OT twice says something about Harvard's future. They can't recruit like the Western schools or BC for that matter yet they found a way to stay with the top ranked team in the country.
 
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She'd had to have charged triple for that kind of service on the street.

That’s cute.



The BTN guy announced the penalty as checking and BTN showed a brief clip that looked like standard contact (without the usual comment on how the ref got it right, btw). If the play-by-play guy had announced it right (hooking) and showed the same clip, I would have then asked “When is a hook not a hook?” But now there is at least one dispassionate eyewitness who saw it clearly and can set me straight, and I am much relieved. A real call beats a bogus one every time. I suppose I have seen enough of these games to learn not to trust either the voice or the video too quickly, certainly not my emotions.


I don’t get why Harvard had the added burden of having to skate with Princeton on its back. And I also don’t get the continued need to brandish the rod that has flogged the very, very dead Olympic horse all these years. Harvard did something remarkable this weekend. They came in to Wisconsin as a freshmen-laden team with two wins to date and played their seventh and eighth games of the season missing three forwards (one of whom is their best skater/scorer) and pushed the Badgers to two OTs. Someone behind the bench was responsible for this tremendous effort. Give credit where credit is due. Even a personal nemesis, if that what she is, deserves that.
 
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But now there is at least one dispassionate eyewitness who saw it clearly and can set me straight,

Certainly not 'dispassionate', as Gophers fans will be happy to confirm. UW season tickets for nine years now. But it was a hook that had to be called, even in OT. The refs - one Hockey East, one WCHA - were not great all weekend (on Friday night they actually called a UW player for interference WHILE she had the puck!); both nights they were doing their best to 'swallow their whistles' in the third periods and overtimes. I wish I could report which of them made the call (unless it was both) but I didn't notice.
 
I think the fact that a very young team with a freshman goalie went out to the #1 team's barn and forced OT twice says something about Harvard's future. They can't recruit like the Western schools or BC for that matter yet they found a way to stay with the top ranked team in the country.

Harvard could recruit more broadly but seem to choose not to. Unless you want to send your kid to a 5th year at Nobles, that is.
 
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Certainly not 'dispassionate', as Gophers fans will be happy to confirm. UW season tickets for nine years now. But it was a hook that had to be called, even in OT. The refs - one Hockey East, one WCHA - were not great all weekend (on Friday night they actually called a UW player for interference WHILE she had the puck!); both nights they were doing their best to 'swallow their whistles' in the third periods and overtimes. I wish I could report which of them made the call (unless it was both) but I didn't notice.

THX! Again.
 
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The refs - one Hockey East, one WCHA ...
Hanrahan and Ozmen are both WCHA refs. At least, that is where they called the lines for many years; can't say if they ever work Hockey East or not. But for a regular-season game in a WCHA rink, they were hired by the WCHA for this series.
 
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Hanrahan and Ozmen are both WCHA refs. At least, that is where they called the lines for many years; can't say if they ever work Hockey East or not. But for a regular-season game in a WCHA rink, they were hired by the WCHA for this series.

My mistake. I googled her name last night, and got a handful of hits from 2018 that read "Box Score - Hockey East", and went from there. I looked again just now, and if you click through, the links go to "Hockey East Online" website but are actually box scores of WCHA games. Sorry 'bout that.

(And I didn't recognize the name. Is this her first year with WCHA?)
 
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And I also don’t get the continued need to brandish the rod that has flogged the very, very dead Olympic horse all these years.

Especially since the Wisconsin coach loaded a team USA team in 2010 with seven former or current Badgers and accomplished the same thing as Stone.

Too bad Harvard couldn’t hold on for a point, but the weekend surely boosts their confidence as far as competing for the Ivy League title and in conference going forward. At the very least it got me interested in them a bit. Hope they get their star skaters back soon!
 
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My mistake. I googled her name last night, and got a handful of hits from 2018 that read "Box Score - Hockey East", and went from there. I looked again just now, and if you click through, the links go to "Hockey East Online" website but are actually box scores of WCHA games. Sorry 'bout that.

(And I didn't recognize the name. Is this her first year with WCHA?)

It looks like she has been around at least since 2016 as per the article.

https://www.shsoutherner.net/sports...eam-and-referee-experience-to-varsity-hockey/
 
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It looks like she has been around at least since 2016 as per the article.

... as a linesman. The linesmen for LaBahn games are just about always Dan Fitzsimons and Brenda Reinen, who both live local to Madison (although Fitz was not there this weekend).

So if they truly mean "linesman" then she would not have often worked games in Madison, until she got promoted to full referee. (Albeit Hanrahan is listed as "linesman" in last night's box score, though she was clearly one of the two refs; does the word "linesman" vs "referee" take on different meanings in different contexts? IE. One of the two with the orange armband is the "referee" while the other is the "linesman". etc?)
 
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I've only seen Ozmen at Ridder as a linesman and just occasionally and never as a ref that I recall. We used to see Ludwig and Hanrahan as refs a lot more than we do now. That's probably a good thing.
 
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Harvard did something remarkable this weekend. They came in to Wisconsin as a freshmen-laden team with two wins to date and played their seventh and eighth games of the season missing three forwards (one of whom is their best skater/scorer) and pushed the Badgers to two OTs. Someone behind the bench was responsible for this tremendous effort. Give credit where credit is due. Even a personal nemesis, if that what she is, deserves that.

Friday they looked like any other wcha team with a crazy good goalie, not not push back from the Crimson. Saturday was a tad more even with more push back with the same crazy good goalie. Hawvawd is a well coached team, a very good passing team and they played with a lot of spunk. The goalie is amazing. Her performance was the best I've seen out of an opponent's goalie in years. My references to Princeton is just me trying to figure out in my head a hierarchy of teams I have seen UW play so when I do my top 10 ranking there is some semblance of logic to it. I will never let Stone live down the Pankowski cut to keep Chu.
 
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The goalie was fantastic again. Is she a US or Canadian Citizen? She needs to be on one of their radars, made some crazy good saves.

The thinner has really done something to your long term memory. Lindsay Reed has an extensive resume with Team USA.
 
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