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Guns For Everyone!: Another Mass Shooting!

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And to alfa's post in the last thread: I would understand if my company only tested those who ran power machinery (forklifts/etc). They went with a blanket company policy. Drug-free, period.
 
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The Rube said:
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And to alfa's post in the last thread: I would understand if my company only tested those who ran power machinery (forklifts/etc). They went with a blanket company policy. Drug-free, period.
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Going blanket makes it easier to justify doing it in the first place.

BTW, IF we force drug tests for assistance, at least we should give them assistance AND a drug treatment path to help out. People need chances to put their lives back together.

By making it a clear "yes or no" test, it leaves many Americans with no help or hope. If we are ever going to fix the drug problems in the country, we should help people who need it, not cut them off.

As for gun owners, I'm not sure what drug testing will achieve. It sounds like a good idea, but what's the goal? While many shootings are drug related- it's drug trafficking, not usage. And I'd wager that legal alcohol have lead to more shootings than most people think.

Still, a logical weapon restriction that will even help with handguns is a magazine hard limit and a firing rate limit. That does not ban guns, all it does is put how many rounds can be put out at a given time, which should reduce the amount of deaths- even in a city area where it's not considered a mass shooting.

Nobody has come up with a logical reason why we need guns that shoot more than 6 rounds at a rate as fast as you can pull the trigger. They provide no benefit to anyone.
 
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The City of Aurora posted this yesterday:
On 2/18/19, the Illinois State Police provided information regarding their procedures related to the application and revocation of Firearm Owner's Identification cards in this state. The ISP noted that in 2014 their notification policy for law enforcement agencies included an electronic message via the State's LEADS system and written notification to the FOID card holder with instructions to turn over any firearms to their local police department. At that time, any person who wished to turn over firearms to a police agency could do so, and that agency completed a Firearm Disposition Record, as described by the ISP.

We have included a copy of the Illinois State Police statement.

Our records have not confirmed notification of a FOID card revocation or the recovery of firearms from the named subject in 2014 or any time since. As noted in the statement given by the Illinois State Police, if an agency is made aware of a FOID card revocation, the agency may seek to petition the court for the FOID card and any firearms; however, having a revoked FOID card alone is not sufficient grounds to search a person or their home.
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Pretty creepy that we have had mass shootings in at least two different cities of Aurora (IL and CO). There's one in the iron range, too. Comin' your way, MN.
 
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Kepler said:
Pretty creepy that we have had mass shootings in at least two different cities of Aurora (IL and CO). There's one in the iron range, too. Comin' your way, MN.
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Have one in Maine also, population about 12
 
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A Minnesota Republican had this to say at a gun humper really this weekend:

“There’s a lot of us in this room that have had enough, and it’s time to start riding herd on the rest of these people that want to take your rights away from you. They will not go quietly into the good night. They need to be kicked to the curb and stomped on and run over a few times.”

http://www.citypages.com/news/mn-re...l-advocates-stomped-on-and-run-over/506322941
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
A Minnesota Republican had this to say at a gun humper really this weekend:

“There’s a lot of us in this room that have had enough, and it’s time to start riding herd on the rest of these people that want to take your rights away from you. They will not go quietly into the good night. They need to be kicked to the curb and stomped on and run over a few times.”

http://www.citypages.com/news/mn-re...l-advocates-stomped-on-and-run-over/506322941
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Great idea.
 
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I think a few states like West Virginia already have Constitutional Carry... really stupid idea.
 
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The Rube said:
What the eff is wrong with people??
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For starters, too many people have said both sides are bad for about 30 years now, when one side is so clearly so much worse than the other. Republicans have been in bed with the NRA (or better stated, letting the NRA prison rape them lube-free) for so long now and have stood in the way of dozens (hundreds?) of common sense ideas to stem the tide of handgun violence. That's the main thing that's wrong with "people."
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
For starters, too many people have said both sides are bad for about 30 years now, when one side is so clearly so much worse than the other. Republicans have been in bed with the NRA (or better stated, letting the NRA prison rape them lube-free) for so long now and have stood in the way of dozens (hundreds?) of common sense ideas to stem the tide of handgun violence. That's the main thing that's wrong with "people."
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I'd say NRA and non NRA, Republican or not. There are Republicans I know that despise the NRA. The NRA is one part of the R party, that's one facet to look at. It's not the whole party.

That being said, stuff like this is so ridiculous, how can you NOT call the NRA out, or these people who think this is a good idea? No safety checks? Stop right there. That is wrong. WRONG.
 
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