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Guns For Everyone!: Another Mass Shooting!

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Some data from the FBI

From Emily Miller on FB..

I did some research on homicide by rifle for those calling for a federal "assault weapon ban." You can see below that the law from 1994-2004 did not reduce rifle murder, which trends with overall gun violence.

1991 - Total Firearm Homicide: 14,373
By Rifle: 745 = 5% of total gun murders

1992- Total Firearm Homicide: 15,489
By Rifle: 706 = 5% of total gun murders

1993- Total Firearm Homicide: 16,136
By Rifle: 757 = 5% of total gun murders

1994- Total Firearm Homicide: 15,463
By Rifle: 724 = 5% of total gun murders

— FEDERAL “ASSAULT WEAPON” BAN ENACTED —

1995- Total Firearm Homicide: 13,790
By Rifle: 637 = 5% of total gun murders

1996- Total Firearm Homicide: 11,453
By Rifle: 546 = 5% of total gun murders

1997 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,729
By Rifle: 638 = 5% of total gun murders

1998- Total Firearm Homicide: 9,257
By Rifle: 548 = 6% of total gun murders

1999 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,480
By Rifle: 400 = 5% of total gun murders

2000 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,661
By Rifle: 411 = 5% of total gun murders

2001- Total Firearm Homicide: 8,890
By Rifle: 386= 4% of total gun murders

2002 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,528
By Rifle: 488 = 5% of total gun murders

2003- Total Firearm Homicide: 9,659
By Rifle: 392 = 4% of total gun murders

2004 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,385
By Rifle: 403 = 4% of total gun murders

— FEDERAL “ASSAULT WEAPON” BAN EXPIRES —

2005 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,158
By Rifle: 445 = 4% of total gun murders

2006 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,225
By Rifle: 438 = 4% of total gun murders

2007 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,129
By Rifle: 453 = 4% of total gun murders

2008 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,528
By Rifle: 380 = 4% of total gun murders

2009 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,199
By Rifle: 351 = 4% of total gun murders

2010 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,874
By Rifle: 367 = 4% of total gun murders

2011 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,653
By Rifle: 332 = 4% of total gun murders

2012 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,855
By Rifle: 322 = 4% of total gun murders

2013 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,854
By Rifle: 285 = 3% of total gun murders

2014- Total Firearm Homicide: 8,312
By Rifle: 258 = 3% of total gun murders

2015- Total Firearm Homicide: 9,778
By Rifle: 258 = 3 % of total gun murders

2016 - Total Firearm Homicide: 11,138
By Rifle: 378 = 3% of total gun murders

2017 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,982
By Rifle: 403 = 4% of total gun murders

*All data from FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation
 
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joecct said:
Some data from the FBI

From Emily Miller on FB..

I did some research on homicide by rifle for those calling for a federal "assault weapon ban." You can see below that the law from 1994-2004 did not reduce rifle murder, which trends with overall gun violence.

1991 - Total Firearm Homicide: 14,373
By Rifle: 745 = 5% of total gun murders

1992- Total Firearm Homicide: 15,489
By Rifle: 706 = 5% of total gun murders

1993- Total Firearm Homicide: 16,136
By Rifle: 757 = 5% of total gun murders

1994- Total Firearm Homicide: 15,463
By Rifle: 724 = 5% of total gun murders

— FEDERAL “ASSAULT WEAPON” BAN ENACTED —

1995- Total Firearm Homicide: 13,790
By Rifle: 637 = 5% of total gun murders

1996- Total Firearm Homicide: 11,453
By Rifle: 546 = 5% of total gun murders

1997 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,729
By Rifle: 638 = 5% of total gun murders

1998- Total Firearm Homicide: 9,257
By Rifle: 548 = 6% of total gun murders

1999 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,480
By Rifle: 400 = 5% of total gun murders

2000 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,661
By Rifle: 411 = 5% of total gun murders

2001- Total Firearm Homicide: 8,890
By Rifle: 386= 4% of total gun murders

2002 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,528
By Rifle: 488 = 5% of total gun murders

2003- Total Firearm Homicide: 9,659
By Rifle: 392 = 4% of total gun murders

2004 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,385
By Rifle: 403 = 4% of total gun murders

— FEDERAL “ASSAULT WEAPON” BAN EXPIRES —

2005 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,158
By Rifle: 445 = 4% of total gun murders

2006 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,225
By Rifle: 438 = 4% of total gun murders

2007 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,129
By Rifle: 453 = 4% of total gun murders

2008 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,528
By Rifle: 380 = 4% of total gun murders

2009 - Total Firearm Homicide: 9,199
By Rifle: 351 = 4% of total gun murders

2010 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,874
By Rifle: 367 = 4% of total gun murders

2011 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,653
By Rifle: 332 = 4% of total gun murders

2012 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,855
By Rifle: 322 = 4% of total gun murders

2013 - Total Firearm Homicide: 8,854
By Rifle: 285 = 3% of total gun murders

2014- Total Firearm Homicide: 8,312
By Rifle: 258 = 3% of total gun murders

2015- Total Firearm Homicide: 9,778
By Rifle: 258 = 3 % of total gun murders

2016 - Total Firearm Homicide: 11,138
By Rifle: 378 = 3% of total gun murders

2017 - Total Firearm Homicide: 10,982
By Rifle: 403 = 4% of total gun murders

*All data from FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation
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As long as you can sleep at night with people being slaughtered on a regular basis with weapons that can shoot a lot and quickly.

Your "data" pretty much supports your total BS Christian front. Good luck when you reach the pearly gates. I suspect they will be locked for you.
 
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alfablue said:
As long as you can sleep at night with people being slaughtered on a regular basis with weapons that can shoot a lot and quickly.

Your "data" pretty much supports your total BS Christian front. Good luck when you reach the pearly gates. I suspect they will be locked for you.
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To be fair, he didn't say it was right. He said it didn't really change. There IS a difference.
 
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alfablue said:
As long as you can sleep at night with people being slaughtered on a regular basis with weapons that can shoot a lot and quickly.

Your "data" pretty much supports your total BS Christian front. Good luck when you reach the pearly gates. I suspect they will be locked for you.
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You are better than to respond to facts, even facts that can be challenged, with insults.
 
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“Ex-Republican Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee said a lack of thoughts and prayers is "the single biggest factor" behind mass shootings like the ones that took place in Ohio and Texas, arguing that "passing more laws and pointing more fingers is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" because we will never be able to "legislate the evil out of people’s hearts."

https://thehill.com/homenews/456287...-of-thought-and-prayers-behind-mass-shootings
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
“Ex-Republican Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee said a lack of thoughts and prayers is "the single biggest factor" behind mass shootings like the ones that took place in Ohio and Texas, arguing that "passing more laws and pointing more fingers is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" because we will never be able to "legislate the evil out of people’s hearts."

https://thehill.com/homenews/456287...-of-thought-and-prayers-behind-mass-shootings
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This part is correct. Can't say the same for the rest.
 
alfablue said:
As long as you can sleep at night with people being slaughtered on a regular basis with weapons that can shoot a lot and quickly.

Your "data" pretty much supports your total BS Christian front. Good luck when you reach the pearly gates. I suspect they will be locked for you.
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Data is data. You draw interpretations from the data. One fact emerges - while gun homicide deaths are going up, the % by rifle holds steady. The fact that we're killing each other by gun, knife, explosives, etc. is sickening. We have to address the sickness.

What happens when I stand for my Particular Judgment is between me and Christ. Not you.
 
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joecct said:
Data is data. You draw interpretations from the data. One fact emerges - while gun homicide deaths are going up, the % by rifle holds steady. The fact that we're killing each other by gun, knife, explosives, etc. is sickening. We have to address the sickness.

What happens when I stand for my Particular Judgment is between me and Christ. Not you.
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BIU. Just saying.
 
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Watching CNN, and a survivor is apologizing for crying, because it's "sissy." Makes me mad/sad that he feels he has to apologize for that. Dude, shed tears. It shows you care.
 
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Trump actually giving thought to red flag laws?! I'm treating this as simply noise right now, but if he actually follows through on this...whoa. To say I'd be surprised would be an understatement. FTR, not holding my breath.
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If I die in a mass shooting I give you full permission to take my body, stuff it in a cannon, aim it at Mitch McConnell’s office and send my lifeless corpse sailing right through that mother****er’s window</p>— caitie delaney (@caitiedelaney) <a href="https://twitter.com/caitiedelaney/status/1158066430320889857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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She needs to be less vague ;)
 
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The Rube said:
Trump actually giving thought to red flag laws?! I'm treating this as simply noise right now, but if he actually follows through on this...whoa. To say I'd be surprised would be an understatement. FTR, not holding my breath.
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After some of the shootings, he makes a statement that would make a normal Republican faint. Outside of the DOJ ruling about the thing used in Vegas (bypassing Moscow Mitch), nothing ever changes and he's off tweeting about immigrants or China 12 hours later.
 
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For me it was Unreal Tournament 1999 Game of the Year Edition. The one with the Redeemer and the ridiculously overpowered sniper rifle.

FIRST BLOOD!
MMMMMMMMMOONSTER KILLLLLLLL!!
 
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Facility, Remote Mines, License to Kill. No Oddjob.

Try me.

FadeToBlack&Gold said:
For me it was Unreal Tournament 1999 Game of the Year Edition. The one with the Redeemer and the ridiculously overpowered sniper rifle.

FIRST BLOOD!
MMMMMMMMMOONSTER KILLLLLLLL!!
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UT2K4 here. Instagib servers all night (pulse rifles only, one hit creates chunky salsa.)
 
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I got (half-jokingly) made fun of for playing UT 1999 in the McNair CS Community, freshman year 2005. There were still tons of players on the UT 99 servers mad about the '04 nuking of certain weapons. :eek:
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The New York Times changed its headline on Trump's comments about two mass shootings for its later editions. <a href="https://t.co/JD4ac2MIjH">https://t.co/JD4ac2MIjH</a></p>— HuffPost (@HuffPost) <a href="https://twitter.com/HuffPost/status/1158590069961383937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Man the NYTimes blows. I am sure Maggie Haberman is working on her next expose and they are looking for a way to blame Hillary for all of this.

This is the best one:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To cancel your NYT subscription:<br><br>Call 1-800-NYTIMES <a href="https://t.co/Be4mu5gtXx">pic.twitter.com/Be4mu5gtXx</a></p>— Richard Glass (@ToSayBoldly) <a href="https://twitter.com/ToSayBoldly/status/1158559168472768515?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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joecct said:
Data is data. You draw interpretations from the data. One fact emerges - while gun homicide deaths are going up, the % by rifle holds steady. The fact that we're killing each other by gun, knife, explosives, etc. is sickening. We have to address the sickness.

What happens when I stand for my Particular Judgment is between me and Christ. Not you.
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What you posted just suggests that we should do nothing about guns.

And since nobody has ever come up with ANY solution to mental illness, let alone a realistic one- all you are doing is saying that we do nothing. Just let people die.

Unless you have an actual proposal to stopping the violence.

My proposal continues to be limit the fire rate and limit the rounds in magazines- which will limit the opportunity to get rounds off, thus lowering the number of people dying. Other than some kind of minority report idea, I have no real idea how to address the mental illness. One can't sacrifice a persons other rights, too.

Every time someone does one of these mass shootings, people like you and brent always talk about the shooter not the gun, and have ZERO proposals to do anything about it. So come up with an idea for once. Don't just sand behind some saying, come up with something, even if it's not realistic.
 
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How about some sort of mental health training if you want to own a high capacity semi auto gun?
 
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