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Gulf Oil Spill 2010

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Sorry, but that is kinda lame. I walk around Minneapolis all the time at all hours and never think twice about it. Unless you live in a ridiculously bad neighborhood or you are being stupid and say, holding a wad of bills for everyone to see you should really never fear being in Minneapolis.

BTW the one time someone broke into my car and stole something I was in Plymouth, so lets not pretend that suburbs are super safe and cuddly. I mean you can go to pretty much any suburb and find all sorts of shady stuff. (drugs, violence...etc.) You can't change human behavior via distance.

Ever since some guy tried to mug me down at the U, I just don't trust cities anymore. I don't like walking around big cities at night. Hell, even the area around target field bothers me. Unless there are people around I just don't do it.
 
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Ever since some guy tried to mug me down at the U, I just don't trust cities anymore. I don't like walking around big cities at night. Hell, even the area around target field bothers me. Unless there are people around I just don't do it.

I'm not a city kid at all. Suburbs all the way, and I have no fear of walking around downtown, etc. In fact, the only crimes that have happened to me have been in the suburbs (mostly car break-ins).

And sure, don't walk around shady places at night alone, but don't limit that to just actual city-city areas. I wouldn't walk around certain parts of Robbinsdale at night, alone. And Fridley isn't exactly the greatest place, along with Brooklyn Park/Center, from what I know.

I mean, for example, there were three police reports of shootings this weekend, NOT in the city of Minneapolis.

Hopkins (Hopkins Crossroads and Hwy 7)
Brooklyn Center (off of Shingle Creek Parkway, by the old movie theaters)
Fridley (by some trailer park on Osbourne, IIRC)

Nowhere near the city.
 
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Eh... I think you might mean "disagree"... I don't want to be "out in the sticks" either... but you know, the car is so vital to mobility. I can think of a handful of things I could do with a car that I can't without one that I've run into so far. The car allows for a strong degree of flexibility.

It should be noted that with the curtailing of the automobile, via gas prices, you will a decrease in efficiency because you lose that general mobility... what happens when things become more compact? Its generally hard to move... and when persons want to go to places (friends, events, otherwise) the flow of persons becomes more difficult. I'll leave it there.

I would take the city w/ out the car over the sticks with the mobility. If I want to do anything besides survive, I need the car. My long term goal is to either have a car and fill up once a month or live somewhere where I don't need a car. If I can walk to work, and to the gym and rink, thats enough for me :)

In regards to your rep, the solution is going to be a huge spectrum - anything and everything. We are focusing on one which is not a silver bullet by any means. I suspect i'll be in the USCHO community for another decade, so you guys will have a front row seat to the success/failure of what we propose!
 
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Look, I appreciate all the comments you guys have about Minneapolis. Sorry, I just don't feel safe there and probably never will. Part of it is upbringing and stories, part of it is personal experience.

We live in Pleasantville. There's a big difference from living in a quiet neighborhood next to the TPC than being in downtown Minneapolis. It's how I grew up.
 
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Look, I appreciate all the comments you guys have about Minneapolis. Sorry, I just don't feel safe there and probably never will. Part of it is upbringing and stories, part of it is personal experience.

We live in Pleasantville. There's a big difference from living in a quiet neighborhood next to the TPC than being in downtown Minneapolis. It's how I grew up.

There is a big difference, no question about it. Technically I live in cake-eater country, currently, and the closest I've lived to the actual city limits was Crystal. But I don't feel any less safe in the parts of Minneapolis that I frequent/used to frequent.
 
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There is a big difference, no question about it. Technically I live in cake-eater country, currently, and the closest I've lived to the actual city limits was Crystal. But I don't feel any less safe in the parts of Minneapolis that I frequent/used to frequent.

It's just that I've never felt unsafe up here in Blaine. Different strokes, for different folks I guess.
 
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I would take the city w/ out the car over the sticks with the mobility. If I want to do anything besides survive, I need the car. My long term goal is to either have a car and fill up once a month or live somewhere where I don't need a car. If I can walk to work, and to the gym and rink, thats enough for me :)

See, I can do that now... its overrated. Then again, I still can't skate :p

In regards to your rep, the solution is going to be a huge spectrum - anything and everything. We are focusing on one which is not a silver bullet by any means. I suspect i'll be in the USCHO community for another decade, so you guys will have a front row seat to the success/failure of what we propose!

Well, I suppose its like anything else... scalability is everything. Personally, I'd like to see us come up with added degree of efficiency rather than a surplus of fuel... but either one does the job to be honest.
 
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I live in the middle of the woods in the middle of nowhere. We drive 35 miles to Walmart. I don't want to live in the city. I want my cake and I want to eat it too. And I love my riding mower.

(fretting) (what to do what to do?)
 
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Ever since some guy tried to mug me down at the U, I just don't trust cities anymore. I don't like walking around big cities at night. Hell, even the area around target field bothers me. Unless there are people around I just don't do it.

Go just south of Target Field...
 
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Go just south of Target Field...

You mean by Lee's Liquor Lounge? I was there with bbdl and MNS not too long ago on a Fri night. Stayed there until almost 11pm, then walked to the main stretch of that DT area. :p
 
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There is a big difference, no question about it. Technically I live in cake-eater country, currently, and the closest I've lived to the actual city limits was Crystal. But I don't feel any less safe in the parts of Minneapolis that I frequent/used to frequent.

I worked with a guy at channel 5 and this is his second stint at 5. In between he worked in Detroit. Where do you think his car was stolen? South Metro(Burnsville or Eagan).
 
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No...Currie Avenue

No idea where that is. I know we saw some seedy individuals around that area we were in, but felt completely safe.

Any which way, my point is that the suburbs have crime just as the city has crime. Some areas in each place of living are safer, some are more dangerous. Just because it's labeled as "the city" or "a suburb" shouldn't make your view of how dangerous or safe it is.
 
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No idea where that is. I know we saw some seedy individuals around that area we were in, but felt completely safe.

Any which way, my point is that the suburbs have crime just as the city has crime. Some areas in each place of living are safer, some are more dangerous. Just because it's labeled as "the city" or "a suburb" shouldn't make your view of how dangerous or safe it is.

And that's precisely my point. I don't live in the bad sections of blaine (if any truly exist). I feel safer in my section of blaine than any section of minneapolis after dark.
 
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No idea where that is. I know we saw some seedy individuals around that area we were in, but felt completely safe.

Any which way, my point is that the suburbs have crime just as the city has crime. Some areas in each place of living are safer, some are more dangerous. Just because it's labeled as "the city" or "a suburb" shouldn't make your view of how dangerous or safe it is.

It's where Mary Jo Copeland's place and the Salvation Army is across the street from Target Field.

I haven't heard of any issues with the homeless shelters being right there. Just like you never really hear anything about the homeless shelter across from the X.

One of the quietest places I've lived was in south Minneapolis near Hiawatha Golf Course near 46th and Cedar. I lived in a "High risk" zip code so my auto insurance was sky high, but I felt safe.

The first ring suburbs aren't always great, Columbia Heights, Fridley, Brooklyn Center, southern Brooklyn Park, and Richfield aren't great. Heck I covered murders in the City of Ramsey. They had two in a couple weeks from a meth-head a few years back. Guy broke into a house in the middle of the night, shot and killed an older woman after he fought off her husband. I think a couple people have been killed at Time Out in Blaine.

Most of the shootings on the North Side of Minneapolis, North Side of St. Paul, and the East Side of St. Paul are gang related and if you're not involved, you'll be fine. Though those areas will have a high cost of living with increased insurance.

I've lived in really small towns(Breezy Point), medium sized towns(Moorhead), suburbs(Stillwater, Maplewood, White Bear Lake, Golden Valley), and large cities(St. Paul and Minneapolis) and I'll take the suburbs. I like having stuff close to me, don't mind the drives to DT, lower cost of living, yard space, stricter rules on yard upkeep, lower taxes, better schools, no Ryback or Coleman.
 
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And I don't want to live in houses that are on-top of each other. What can you do? There's no mass alternative available, so drill!

The mass transit in the MSP/StP area isn't that great. I'd be more apt to go downtown more if there was a light rail along 394. Yes, there are busses, but that is just a hassle not worth dealing with, from where I am/considering why I'd go downtown.

And many of us work in the suburbs to begin with. Commute time/convenience is a huge factor for me.
 
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The mass transit in the MSP/StP area isn't that great. I'd be more apt to go downtown more if there was a light rail along 394. Yes, there are busses, but that is just a hassle not worth dealing with, from where I am/considering why I'd go downtown.

And many of us work in the suburbs to begin with. Commute time/convenience is a huge factor for me.

Yeah, a lot of people work in the suburbs now. General Milles, Best Buy, 3M, Super Value, United Health, Medtronic, Land O' Lakes, St. Jude, Toro, Anderson Windows, Thomson Reuters, Nash Finch, C.H. Robinson, Cargill, Imation, Deluxe, Michael Foods, Carlson Companies are just some of the Fortune 1000 companies in the suburbs and a lot aren't near each other.
 
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Yeah, a lot of people work in the suburbs now. General Milles, Best Buy, 3M, Super Value, United Health, Medtronic, Land O' Lakes, St. Jude, Toro, Anderson Windows, Thomson Reuters, Nash Finch, C.H. Robinson, Cargill, Imation, Deluxe, Michael Foods, Carlson Companies are just some of the Fortune 1000 companies in the suburbs and a lot aren't near each other.

Big buildings, their own parking lots (not ramps), space. Those are the key things, as is cost (obviously). When a city gets to a certain size, suburbs are unavoidable, and there will always be that select group of people who like to live just outside of THAT (for the MSP area, that would prob include places like St Bonifacious, Lakeville, Rogers, etc).

You can only build so high, for downtown businesses/etc, then you have to build "out."

Also, mass transit can only hold/move so many people.

So we are left with the alternative fuels. Which, as we have seen, is a tough road to go down, given the power of the lobbies at play.
 
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