Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Perhaps the playbook is written in a language that only McCain understands.
Perhaps the playbook is written in a language that only McCain understands.
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Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
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Kepler
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Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
I think all the adult politicians do (everybody but the Tea Party). Their problem has always been that they make their base insane for 36 months and then suddenly have to either step away or at least talk in code; the wind-up toys who actually believe the derp keep spouting it, and everybody with an ounce of sense thinks, "ew..."
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
When I moved, I thought I was getting away from Bachmann's district. Little did I know it basically gives the eastern half of the Twin Cities the reacharound...
When I moved, I thought I was getting away from Bachmann's district. Little did I know it basically gives the eastern half of the Twin Cities the reacharound...
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
The way my district used to be drawn the Republican could drop a steaming deuce right on stage during a debate and still take 70%.
So, does this doom her, or does it make her even more of a lock?
The way my district used to be drawn the Republican could drop a steaming deuce right on stage during a debate and still take 70%.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Neither. I don't think the lines were drastically changed from the last few elections. Could be wrong though.
I would say just write her off as an entertaining moonbat. Otherwise it's just too depressing.
Neither. I don't think the lines were drastically changed from the last few elections. Could be wrong though.
I would say just write her off as an entertaining moonbat. Otherwise it's just too depressing.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
No, I meant Michelle's latest... theory.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
*slaps forehead* Sorry.
Honestly, I don't know if it would matter. Unless the DFL runs a candidate that isn't a complete moron. The DFL has put up some pretty awful candidates up for election. They really should feel embarrassed.
The area close to the metro aren't Bible-thumpin' rednecks. Especially in northeast Blaine and the southeastern portion of Washington County (Woodbury, Lake Elmo). Educated, white, and rich. It's the northwestern section of the district that's just absolutely full of the north's version of rednecks. All you have to do is look and see St Cloud in the grouping and it pretty much explains everything
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Some will claim that the districts were gerrymandered to marginalize the DFLers. I don't see it personally.
*slaps forehead* Sorry.
Honestly, I don't know if it would matter. Unless the DFL runs a candidate that isn't a complete moron. The DFL has put up some pretty awful candidates up for election. They really should feel embarrassed.
The area close to the metro aren't Bible-thumpin' rednecks. Especially in northeast Blaine and the southeastern portion of Washington County (Woodbury, Lake Elmo). Educated, white, and rich. It's the northwestern section of the district that's just absolutely full of the north's version of rednecks. All you have to do is look and see St Cloud in the grouping and it pretty much explains everything
. Some will claim that the districts were gerrymandered to marginalize the DFLers. I don't see it personally.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Was just going to say that youre off a bit...its not St Cloud and northern parts of the district that are putting Bachmann into office. Its the suburbs/exurbs of Anoka, Washington and Wright.
*slaps forehead* Sorry.
It's the northwestern section of the district that's just absolutely full of the north's version of rednecks. All you have to do is look and see St Cloud in the grouping and it pretty much explains everything
Was just going to say that youre off a bit...its not St Cloud and northern parts of the district that are putting Bachmann into office. Its the suburbs/exurbs of Anoka, Washington and Wright.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Anoka and Washington are not exurbs.
I'm guessing you missed the part where I said:
Anoka and Washington are not exurbs.
I'm guessing you missed the part where I said:
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
I think it's 50% the DFL nominating a couple of really terrible candidates and the other half is magic. Not sure about the party nomination. I'm sure she was a moonbat before, but it wasn't common knowledge. Now that she's got the nomination, she's going to hold onto it until she loses an election.
I think it's 50% the DFL nominating a couple of really terrible candidates and the other half is magic. Not sure about the party nomination. I'm sure she was a moonbat before, but it wasn't common knowledge. Now that she's got the nomination, she's going to hold onto it until she loses an election.
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Didn't claim that they were...but rather they're mixed.
Youre confusing one fact - district 6 has almost half of the states exurbs - which is true. Anoka cty has 10+ major exurbs all by itself.
And the other as an inference you made - which that Bachmann being elected is due to 'rednecks' in small northern areas of district 6. This is incorrect. The suburbs and exurbs of Anoka, Washington and Wright have about 280% the population of the other more northerly counties combined (and that includes St Cloud).
Anoka and Washington are not exurbs.
I'm guessing you missed the part where I said:
Didn't claim that they were...but rather they're mixed.
Youre confusing one fact - district 6 has almost half of the states exurbs - which is true. Anoka cty has 10+ major exurbs all by itself.
And the other as an inference you made - which that Bachmann being elected is due to 'rednecks' in small northern areas of district 6. This is incorrect. The suburbs and exurbs of Anoka, Washington and Wright have about 280% the population of the other more northerly counties combined (and that includes St Cloud).
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
I'm not sure what you're even arguing.
The second half of your post is just confusing. I never said that she was elected solely by the northern counties. You're continuing to ignore the other points I made, focusing in on one of them, and then hanging my entire argument on that ONE point.
I'm not sure what you're even arguing.
The second half of your post is just confusing. I never said that she was elected solely by the northern counties. You're continuing to ignore the other points I made, focusing in on one of them, and then hanging my entire argument on that ONE point.
Kepler
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Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
Nobody wants to be associated with a woman who at any moment might tweet how "there are some overlooked good ideas" in Mein Kampf, and a sitting Rep is a log jamming hopefuls coming up from below. I'm very surprised the state and national party haven't decided she has passed her expiration date.
Somebody in the MN state GOP must be thinking, "this person is a liability." Particularly in granite countertop districts, there is no shortage of Patty Murray types with free time, a husband making seven figures, and nothing to lose, who can run "soccer mom with plain old common sense" insurgencies and win. The RNC loves them, because when they get to DC they're slack-jawed rubes who will vote with the whip for the next ten terms.
Nobody wants to be associated with a woman who at any moment might tweet how "there are some overlooked good ideas" in Mein Kampf, and a sitting Rep is a log jamming hopefuls coming up from below. I'm very surprised the state and national party haven't decided she has passed her expiration date.
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Seems you were the one originally looking for me to clarify my post:
So yet again, your post is making the wrong conclusion...its not the northwestern section of the district that is getting Bachmann into office. Its Anoka, Washington and Wright counties.
Seems you were the one originally looking for me to clarify my post:
*slaps forehead* Sorry.
The area close to the metro aren't Bible-thumpin' rednecks. Especially in northeast Blaine and the southeastern portion of Washington County (Woodbury, Lake Elmo). Educated, white, and rich. It's the northwestern section of the district that's just absolutely full of the north's version of rednecks. All you have to do is look and see St Cloud in the grouping and it pretty much explains everything
So yet again, your post is making the wrong conclusion...its not the northwestern section of the district that is getting Bachmann into office. Its Anoka, Washington and Wright counties.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
See, here's why you don't even know what you're talking about:
................Obama.....McCain......Difference (+ is McCain)
Benton.......8,452......10,338......1,886
Anoka........86,997.....91,357......4,360
Sherberne...17,960.....26,143......8,183
Stearns......35,690.....41,194......5,504
Washington.70,281.....64,335......-5,946
Wright........26,343.....37,779......11,436
Anoka is the largest of the counties yet it had one of the closest margins. Washington had the second closest in terms of percentages. This district was essentially won in Sherberne, Stearns, and Wright.
See, here's why you don't even know what you're talking about:
................Obama.....McCain......Difference (+ is McCain)
Benton.......8,452......10,338......1,886
Anoka........86,997.....91,357......4,360
Sherberne...17,960.....26,143......8,183
Stearns......35,690.....41,194......5,504
Washington.70,281.....64,335......-5,946
Wright........26,343.....37,779......11,436
Anoka is the largest of the counties yet it had one of the closest margins. Washington had the second closest in terms of percentages. This district was essentially won in Sherberne, Stearns, and Wright.
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
There is a small cross section of state conservatives that are just like her. The wierd thing is that she is the antithesis of most Minnesotans...who are reseserved, 'Minnesota nice', pragmatic, progressive, and smart.
There is a small cross section of state conservatives that are just like her. The wierd thing is that she is the antithesis of most Minnesotans...who are reseserved, 'Minnesota nice', pragmatic, progressive, and smart.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Global War on Terror III: Dick Cheney's Hague ICC Vacation
I think there are a number of people in the Minnesota GOP that are wholly embarrassed by her and would love to see her dumped. The problem is, the national party knows they can run Bachmann out there and win. I wouldn't be shocked if the Minnesota GOP wanted to dump her but the national party slammed the door on that idea. The national party knows she will always vote how they want. Why have intelligence when you can have a sheep?
I think there are a number of people in the Minnesota GOP that are wholly embarrassed by her and would love to see her dumped. The problem is, the national party knows they can run Bachmann out there and win. I wouldn't be shocked if the Minnesota GOP wanted to dump her but the national party slammed the door on that idea. The national party knows she will always vote how they want. Why have intelligence when you can have a sheep?
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