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Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

I'm 100% Norwegian, though I haven't tested. Very frustrating, though, because my people appear have been among those who stayed back to clean fish while the others went to more desirable places to rape and pillage.
well, if the rapers and pillagers came back you probably have a little something else mixed in.

I have Bishops, soldiers and farmers on the Swedish side. Bishop as in big guy bishop. My Swedish cousin is still digging.
 
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Is this the $150 one? My mother-in-law did this a few years ago, or maybe a pre-cursor. Is there any independent analysis about the degree to which it can claim accuracy? How well have we mapped the distribution of the relevant markers so that we can make assumptions about time periods and locations?

That's the only one I found from Nat Geo. https://shop.nationalgeographic.com/browse/productDetail.jsp?productId=2004339&code=SR90002&gclid=CLLYsbbZ3dECFR6ewAod_NQKJw
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

well, if the rapers and pillagers came back you probably have a little something else mixed in.

The rapers and pillagers didn't come back. Sven the Coward was told to hold the boat at the mooring. He spent his time looking at the stars and working out a rudimentary theory of astrophysics. Then one day he found an arrow with a note reading, "All dead. Kill yourself for honor." So he burned the note and rowed back home.

This is the same principle as the Marine Corps.
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

Is this the $150 one? My mother-in-law did this a few years ago, or maybe a pre-cursor. Is there any independent analysis about the degree to which it can claim accuracy? How well have we mapped the distribution of the relevant markers so that we can make assumptions about time periods and locations?

There are a couple that are in the $150 range - NatGeo Gen 2.0, and 23AndMe. I'm starting with NatGeo. From what I gather, their test is more about general human migration over time (all the way back to Mother Africa), than it is trying to peg you to a specific region or country. 23AndMe or FamilyTreeDNA are supposed to be better choices for the latter. I'll eventually do one of those two as well.

It's worth pointing out that 23AndMe and Ancestry make you sign away the right to sell your data to big pharma. I assume National Geographic/Helix also probably has a clause about it that I didn't read. So if you're squeamish about that sort of thing, it's probably best to avoid getting sequenced.
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

Is this the $150 one? My mother-in-law did this a few years ago, or maybe a pre-cursor. Is there any independent analysis about the degree to which it can claim accuracy? How well have we mapped the distribution of the relevant markers so that we can make assumptions about time periods and locations?

I did that with FT-DNA. That part of the test came back 100% Ashkenazi. It missed my slight (perhaps 3%) Sephardic.

I won't comment upon the worthlessness of the test for predicting the degree of relationship among Ashkenazim for anyone beyond a 3rd cousin. :D
 
There are a couple that are in the $150 range - NatGeo Gen 2.0, and 23AndMe. I'm starting with NatGeo. From what I gather, their test is more about general human migration over time (all the way back to Mother Africa), than it is trying to peg you to a specific region or country. 23AndMe or FamilyTreeDNA are supposed to be better choices for the latter. I'll eventually do one of those two as well.

It's worth pointing out that 23AndMe and Ancestry make you sign away the right to sell your data to big pharma. I assume National Geographic/Helix also probably has a clause about it that I didn't read. So if you're squeamish about that sort of thing, it's probably best to avoid getting sequenced.
Ancestry has an opt out.
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

Since, the 1950 Census hasn't been released yet I am in a pickle. Family Search has only the 1940 census of my family and Ancestry does not have anything it's like they don't exist anywhere online. Poof. What would you guys recommend I do? My mom has done the DNA Ancestry test but still nothing. For example, all her DNA relatives on that side of the family are second or third cousins. Ideas?
 
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Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

Since, the 1950 Census hasn't been released yet I am in a pickle. Family Search has only the 1940 census of my family and Ancestry does not have anything it's like they don't exist anywhere online. Poof. What would you guys recommend I do? My mom has done the DNA Ancestry test but still nothing. For example, all her DNA relatives on that side of the family are second or third cousins. Ideas?

Death records for the people you do know. From there you look at Obits. Also post on Ancestry in a number of threads. . I found my Swedish cousins by accident answering a question about a distant relative.
 
Death records for the people you do know. From there you look at Obits. Also post on Ancestry in a number of threads. . I found my Swedish cousins by accident answering a question about a distant relative.

Try find a grave.
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

Try find a grave.

I never have luck with them :( I have had luck calling the historical society of the particular town. Didn't find me the person but did give me background I found useful in how I proceeded with my search.
 
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Death records for the people you do know. From there you look at Obits. Also post on Ancestry in a number of threads. . I found my Swedish cousins by accident answering a question about a distant relative.

Where would I post in Ancestry?
 
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Where would I post in Ancestry?

They have a forum that you can post in. http://boards.ancestry.com/

You can search by location, name, etc. It is a little hard to find with the new set up. It is under the help button now. Used to be a tab on the top. Make sure you put info in title- surname, maybe location. People title things poorly and they don't get opened.
 
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Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

They have a forum that you can post in. http://boards.ancestry.com/

You can search by location, name, etc. It is a little hard to find with the new set up. It is under the help button now. Used to be a tab on the top. Make sure you put info in title- surname, maybe location. People title things poorly and they don't get opened.

They know that poorly titled threads contain links to live stream soccer games. ;)
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

Since, the 1950 Census hasn't been released yet I am in a pickle. Family Search has only the 1940 census of my family and Ancestry does not have anything it's like they don't exist anywhere online. Poof. What would you guys recommend I do? My mom has done the DNA Ancestry test but still nothing. For example, all her DNA relatives on that side of the family are second or third cousins. Ideas?

If you know where they are in the 1940 census, from Family Search, but you aren't getting the hints for that census on Ancestry, I'd go straight to census, and find them manually. Use the Family Search to determine the State, County, Township/Ward/City/etc, and then go to that exact same place in the 1940 census on Ancestry. From there, you should be able to find them on Ancestry and attach that record to your people. Enter all of the information you can find on the census into Ancestry, and see if any hints show up. If still nothing, I would look at any males in the family that would be between 18 and 50 years old in 1942, and search for WW2 draft cards, from there, you can get more information on those people. At this point, you should at least have pretty accurate birthdates (from the draft cards) and birth places (from the census and draft cards). Now start searching that area for birth records. Or search the 1930 census in the same area as the 1940 census, this is more of a shot in the dark, since if Ancestry isn't finding it, it is likely that they had moved. Hopefully after all this, you're starting to get hints.
 
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I didn't have have time to respond before-

I would actually go in the opposite direction. Sometimes the more specific will filter out what you want d/t transcription errors. Ancestry has a few tutorials on this that were helpful to me. A few ways I have found people-
-search last name, no first name, year of birth within 2+ yrs and location- start with actual town/city and then broaden seardh to county.
-search first name, no last name, year of birth- location
-search for wife, sibling, father or mother using above parameters.
-in ancestry start in census then go thru the other categories (decreases the number of hits).
-Do a search in the family tree section and message people who have private trees. DO NOT populate from these trees. They frequently have multiple errors. Any info should be confirmed- message person to see source.
- then go to familysearch.org to do the same. This site has more errors (in my experience) if you are using their trees. Multiple errors in a tree assoc with my name, people who populate trees with any potential person so a guy could have 3 wives simultaneously as one of mine did.
-city directories can be helpful. I usually search manually after finding the last name. This is freq helpful as they will list occupation and often widowed or widower. They will also list grown children.
-post up and ask people if they are willing to search for you if you don't have full access to ancestry
-the local library usually has the library edition of ancestry which gives you access to a lot of things without needing to buy the next level. email yourself the docs so you have copy on home computer.

where are you looking (locality)- USA or other countries?
 
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Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

I didn't have have time to respond before-

I would actually go in the opposite direction. Sometimes the more specific will filter out what you want d/t transcription errors. Ancestry has a few tutorials on this that were helpful to me. A few ways I have found people-
-search last name, no first name, year of birth within 2+ yrs and location- start with actual town/city and then broaden seardh to county.
-search first name, no last name, year of birth- location
-search for wife, sibling, father or mother using above parameters.
-in ancestry start in census then go thru the other categories (decreases the number of hits).
-Do a search in the family tree section and message people who have private trees. DO NOT populate from these trees. They frequently have multiple errors. Any info should be confirmed- message person to see source.
- then go to familysearch.org to do the same. This site has more errors (in my experience) if you are using their trees. Multiple errors in a tree assoc with my name, people who populate trees with any potential person so a guy could have 3 wives simultaneously as one of mine did.
-city directories can be helpful. I usually search manually after finding the last name. This is freq helpful as they will list occupation and often widowed or widower. They will also list grown children.
-post up and ask people if they are willing to search for you if you don't have full access to ancestry
-the local library usually has the library edition of ancestry which gives you access to a lot of things without needing to buy the next level. email yourself the docs so you have copy on home computer.

where are you looking (locality)- USA or other countries?
What I end up doing is putting as much information as possible in the system, and then play with the "exactness" bars in the search window, to change what kind of results come back, to sort through what could be, if there are mistakes. Usually try to figure out which piece of info I have the most confidence in, and start with that item as exact, and everything else as very broad. Then I go on from there.
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

What I end up doing is putting as much information as possible in the system, and then play with the "exactness" bars in the search window, to change what kind of results come back, to sort through what could be, if there are mistakes. Usually try to figure out which piece of info I have the most confidence in, and start with that item as exact, and everything else as very broad. Then I go on from there.

That worked for me at first but I found way more using the above techniques if I got stuck. Found babies I hadn't been able to find for years.
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

What I end up doing is putting as much information as possible in the system, and then play with the "exactness" bars in the search window, to change what kind of results come back, to sort through what could be, if there are mistakes. Usually try to figure out which piece of info I have the most confidence in, and start with that item as exact, and everything else as very broad. Then I go on from there.

I generally turn them to their second lowest setting when I'm trying to find my way out of dead-ends. It takes a boatload of time to sort through, but it's the only way sometimes. Especially since I know for a fact that my mom's side changed their name to a phonetic representation of their name when they arrived at immigration.

And as anyone know knows me understands, my last name is a complete clusterfark and is misspelled in so many documents from the era.
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

I generally turn them to their second lowest setting when I'm trying to find my way out of dead-ends. It takes a boatload of time to sort through, but it's the only way sometimes. Especially since I know for a fact that my mom's side changed their name to a phonetic representation of their name when they arrived at immigration.

And as anyone know knows me understands, my last name is a complete clusterfark and is misspelled in so many documents from the era.

My big last name roadblock was a complete change in names, that isn't anything like it is now. My ancestor that had my same last name had the surname of Larsson in Sweden...so yeah, not close to being the same. I had to use ship manifests to confirm that Larsson is correct. Got on a ship in Gothenberg as Larsson, got off a ship in New York as my current last name. And the names are too different for it to be a misspelling, or a phonetic change, he had to have decided to change his name. (which is pretty common with the Swedish immigrants from that time period.)
 
Re: Geneology Thread: Where did we come from?

My big last name roadblock was a complete change in names, that isn't anything like it is now. My ancestor that had my same last name had the surname of Larsson in Sweden...so yeah, not close to being the same. I had to use ship manifests to confirm that Larsson is correct. Got on a ship in Gothenberg as Larsson, got off a ship in New York as my current last name. And the names are too different for it to be a misspelling, or a phonetic change, he had to have decided to change his name. (which is pretty common with the Swedish immigrants from that time period.)

My Swedish cousin told me that many of the names were misconstrued as being Jewish - my GGF was Emmanuelsson- so they changed them as well as losing the double s.
 
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