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Gender Studies I

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Kepler said:
Right but I was actually saying the opposite: sex is XX vs XY, and then sexual characteristics float above that and are only a matter of probability in their assignment to actual sex. So, if you've got a XX you're a chick, even if you have a dick.

AFAIC the biologists tell us what sex is, and we decide what our gender is. There is no other court to appeal to. Each person gets to decide that and the rest of us can suck it.
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Again, skis, expertise, all that. But I don't think that is necessarily true.
 
LynahFan said:
Fishman'81 said:
“whenever?” Still stuck on that? “Hetero men are creeps, so we should deny trans women their rights.”

That’s the same thinking that brought us some classics like, “hetero men are creeps, so women should wear Elizabethan collars.” Or, “hetero men are creeps, so she was asking for it.”

What’s next? How about, “creepy dudes might install hidden cameras in bathrooms, so we should outlaw cameras?”
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Classically mindless deflection... It's already happened.

Apply for a PR position on the 2024 Trump campaign. You'll fit right in, as will a number of other "derps" on here.

People, get real.
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RaceBoarder said:
I find it comical that society as a whole has evolved and people like Fishy are starting to realize that they are in a minority now. And it's almost as if they are realizing that is kind of sucks to be part of a minority that everyone appears to openly hate...
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I don't worry about being a minority guy. I have lived half my life as a minority in one nation or the other.

But, you're out of your fucking mind if you think any more than 0.01 % of humanity recognizes the concept of "gender via choice".

THAT, um, *calculus* is utterly absurd to pretty much the entire world.
 
LynahFan said:
Fishman'81 said:
“whenever?” Still stuck on that? “Hetero men are creeps, so we should deny trans women their rights.”

That’s the same thinking that brought us some classics like, “hetero men are creeps, so women should wear Elizabethan collars.” Or, “hetero men are creeps, so she was asking for it.”

What’s next? How about, “creepy dudes might install hidden cameras in bathrooms, so we should outlaw cameras?”
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The same people who claim my community can't use the bathroom because of creepy hetero dudes are fond of saying "not all men."

I'm tired of trying to make it make sense.
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Fishman'81 said:
I don't worry about being a minority guy. I have lived half my life as a minority in one nation or the other.

But, you're out of your ****ing mind if you think any more than 0.01 % of humanity recognizes the concept of "gender via choice".

THAT, um, *calculus* is utterly absurd to pretty much the entire world.
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You're off by two orders of magnitude from the US alone you delirious loon.
 
Replace "anti-Semite" with "transphobe" and Sartre's point holds up:
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
 
dxmnkd316 said:
You're off by two orders of magnitude from the US alone you delirious loon.
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I bet it’s more like 3.5 orders off for the US, but to be fair, he did say the whole world - he’s saying that because the Africans, dot Indians, and Chinese hate trans people, that proves that it is “natural” to do so and therefore it’s okay if people in the US do it. too.

Bad logic and a worse take. Miss Thundercat’s Sartre quote is spot on.
 
Happily, basic matters of human rights are not decided here (yet) by popular vote. Even if it were true that the vast majority of the barely evolved apes galumphing about have no idea that gender and sex are different, Fish is proud to be in the same company of those who believe:
  • disease is caused by demonic possession
  • justice is best served by clan vengeance
  • apostacy should be punished by death
  • political enemies should be imprisoned and tortured
  • other races and religions should be hunted to extinction
I'm not about to take my moral and ethical lead from the Common Clay of Mankind, let alone seek their advice on scientific questions.
 
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LynahFan said:
I bet it’s more like 3.5 orders off for the US, but to be fair, he did say the whole world - he’s saying that because the Africans, dot Indians, and Chinese hate trans people, that proves that it is “natural” to do so and therefore it’s okay if people in the US do it. too.

Bad logic and a worse take. Miss Thundercat’s Sartre quote is spot on.
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Huh? You can't support that with a quote from me... Espousing the concept of the actual existence of physical gender does not equate to "hate".

I see far more hate from your little club.
 
LynahFan said:
I bet it’s more like 3.5 orders off for the US, but to be fair, he did say the whole world - he’s saying that because the Africans, dot Indians, and Chinese hate trans people, that proves that it is “natural” to do so and therefore it’s okay if people in the US do it. too.

Bad logic and a worse take. Miss Thundercat’s Sartre quote is spot on.
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Sorry. I meant worldwide from just the US Democrats alone :-)
 
Fishman'81 said:
Huh? You can't support that with a quote from me... Espousing the concept of the actual existence of physical gender does not equate to "hate".

I see far more hate from your little club.
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If millions of people called you a girl every single day of your life, tried to keep you from using the bathroom of your choice, etc, what else would you call that other than hate?
 
I for one am glad every girl who wants to play high school sports will have to submit to a study of her genitals and give a detailed history of her period. We have lived under the tyranny of teenaged girls long enough! I don't think the practice goes far enough though. I suggest we make all the girls line up naked in front of the bench before each game and present themselves to a doctor. It's only fair. My teammates and I had to submit to a cup check before every baseball game. End the estrogenical oppression!

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​​​​​​​You just know there are people who seriously think this way, and salivate at the thought of nude high school girls. But hey, this is a chance to increase needed funding for schools. Charge the dirty old men $100 admission to each game.
 
Oh I’m sure the winter weather in Florida makes it all worth it.

sky high insurance costs, no books in school, your female children subject to period inspections

yeah I’m so jealous of people in Florida
 
ticapnews said:
I for one am glad every girl who wants to play high school sports will have to submit to a study of her genitals and give a detailed history of her period. We have lived under the tyranny of teenaged girls long enough! I don't think the practice goes far enough though. I suggest we make all the girls line up naked in front of the bench before each game and present themselves to a doctor. It's only fair. My teammates and I had to submit to a cup check before every baseball game. End the estrogenical oppression!

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​​​​​​​You just know there are people who seriously think this way, and salivate at the thought of nude high school girls. But hey, this is a chance to increase needed funding for schools. Charge the dirty old men $100 admission to each game.
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Larry Nassar can get started on that for us.
 
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