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Gender Studies I

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Kepler said:
One of the greatest Far Sides of all time.
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The greatest:

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Kepler said:
Um. You're kinda old too, right..?

Jesus, is ANYONE here under 35? dx maybe? Are we all the problem?
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hey, where's the trigger warning? Why you gotta make me feel old at my advanced age of 40? Why did you pick 35? To remind me that being pregnant when 35 or older is a "geratric pregnancy"? Yeah, that's right, just a few years ago I was geriatric.
 
wolverineTrumpet said:
I still don't understand having a party about what set of genitals a baby will have. I don't want friends and family thinking about or guessing about my child's reproductive organs.

If you want a party, fine, have a baby shower, but this gender reveal stuff is weird.
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hmm. I would guess that for most people if someone says they are having a boy or a girl that their mind does not go to genitals.
 
wolverineTrumpet said:
I still don't understand having a party about what set of genitals a baby will have. I don't want friends and family thinking about or guessing about my child's reproductive organs.

If you want a party, fine, have a baby shower, but this gender reveal stuff is weird.
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The only consolation is that the woman who came up with the idea deeply regrets it.
 
wolverineTrumpet said:
I still don't understand having a party about what set of genitals a baby will have.
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I say this as someone who despises gender reveal parties and think they are one of the stupidest things created by my generation...

It's perfectly normal and even socially required in many circles to ask expectant parents if they're having a boy or a girl. They are free to not share if they don't want to or don't know. But it isn't sexualizing children or otherwise commenting on their private parts. It's people making small talk.
 
And there are parents who raise their children without declaring a gender for the child. Such parents are typically met with scorn and derision, though I applaud them for attempting something outside the normal.
 
ericredaxe said:
hmm. I would guess that for most people if someone says they are having a boy or a girl that their mind does not go to genitals.
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But, what is the difference between a boy or a girl? Why do we cloth or decorate the room differently for an infant based on gender? They are an infant. Why do 'gendered' toy aisles exist? This is the point I want to make. I want children to be treated the same regardless of their reproductive organs. I despise that gender sterotypes and gender roles are put onto children starting from before birth.

MissThundercat said:
And there are parents who raise their children without declaring a gender for the child. Such parents are typically met with scorn and derision, though I applaud them for attempting something outside the normal.
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I've tried to let my daughter to pick whatever toys and clothes she wants and about half come from the 'boys' section. I only became concerned about this when I started her in daycare, wondering if others will assume she's a boy because she's in 'boy' clothes.
 
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We do because of many tens of thousands of years of history and culture.

I'm not really arguing with you that perhaps it's a good idea to rethink all of that for infants, however we know why we do this. Because we always have, and because to many (most?) people, "guys is guys's and girls is girls's" and that's that.
 
Swansong said:
We do because of many tens of thousands of years of history and culture.
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This is actually not true. Gender has been very fluid across cultures and time periods. There have simply been time periods in which thinking was rigid and frightened, and the 19th and early 20th century was one of those. Add to this the extreme dogmatism of the Abrahamic religions in a certain interpretation is an outlier, not the norm. Even the history of Christianity has been characterized by hemlines in gender fluidity. I can't say if that is true for Judaism and Islam but I wouldn't be surprised.

It's not a linear progression, it's a sine wave. We are emerging from an interval of repression which not only is ending but also which had a beginning.
 
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