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Gear Grinding Part 5: The Story of the Broken Tooth

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jen said:
I'm not sure how many different ways I should be offended by this, considering... I'm a programmer. ;) The offender was a call center person.

btw, for the curious - "coad". Definitely not a typo.
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I should have added a caveat - that broad brush statement almost never applies to the minority demographic known as "female programmers". :p

The amount of nerd stereotypes present at my IT company of ~500 employees, is enough to prove that such stereotypes are based on truth.
 
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At my store, we use walkies to communicate with each other and management on the floor. What grinds my gears tonight is that no one heard me at all tonight, despite the fact I spoke clearly. Asked for a coach (manager) to come unlock the trash compactor. No one responded. Announced I was taking my break. No one said anything. When I came back from break, I was scolded for not calling my break.
 
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****ing dryers.

Second time in two years that I have to replace a busted belt, AND there was a pop and sparks when I tried restarting the cycle (before realizing there was a broken belt).

And this was after I had to unclog the drain in the washer earlier in the evening.
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
I should have added a caveat - that broad brush statement almost never applies to the minority demographic known as "female programmers". :p

The amount of nerd stereotypes present at my IT company of ~500 employees, is enough to prove that such stereotypes are based on truth.
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maybe your company is just extra nerdy. :D
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
We also hire a lot of recent grads who don't know how to act professionally. That probably has quite a bit to do with it.
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My SIL is one of the head techs at a large national health insurance company. The company hired a recent college grad, and that person will sometimes have to send notices to people very high up the ladder, including my SIL. My SIL told me a couple weeks ago that this new hire will actually insert the text "*head desk*" and "*facepalm*" into her emails that are supposed to be professional in nature.

The kicker of the story, and why she was telling me this, is that this new hire contacted my SIL about her last name (ours isn't particularly common), and it turns out that the new hire is friends with our niece. The last time I saw this niece, she was very excited to tell me about this her friend working with her aunt (which I had been told about a couple days prior), but I don't think anyone has spoken to the girl about how she comes off as a complete idiot by inserting those exceedingly informal and unprofessional comments into her emails.

I understand that recent entries into the world of professionals take some time to acclimate to new expectations, but it seems like the degree of unprofessional behavior has really grown and they're completely oblivious to it now. Either I'm more sensitive or aware of it, or it's more common. I'm not sure which.
 
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St. Clown said:
I understand that recent entries into the world of professionals take some time to acclimate to new expectations, but it seems like the degree of unprofessional behavior has really grown and they're completely oblivious to it now. Either I'm more sensitive or aware of it, or it's more common. I'm not sure which.
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My surmise would be that it's a combination of both. Many of us absorbed professional standards by osmosis so to speak, since there was a tacit shared understanding of what it meant to be professional. That tacit understanding is no longer nearly as widespread as it used to be, and so the peer reinforcement that young people used to get isn't there any more. meanwhile, the longer you work in a professional setting, the more attuned you become as to what is professional and what isn't.

My daughter was a bit upset with herself for doing something naïve at work with a slick smooth-talking manager from another department who was trying to poach her from her assigned project to work on his instead (I'm changing the subject a little, this incident was not over professionalism or lack thereof). She was tempted to ask "how could I have been so stupid?" and I reminded her that there is a big difference between stupidity and ignorance / between lack of intelligence and lack of knowledge.



Knowledge that used to be shared widely on proper standards of behavior is no longer so widely shared.


Conservatives decry the debasement of our culture, I think it is a bit different than that though. Hard to describe it exactly from a centrist viewpoint.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Are business communications classes not required in college anymore?
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St. Clown said:
I never took one, graduated in '99.
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I had one, but I was a business minor, so it must have been required. But even if it's not BUSINESS communication - is this what kids sound like when they write papers in college? This has to be a generational thing, as I don't remember new hires having the same problem when I was one. It's generally understood that you shouldn't sound like a 12 year old on Twitter when communicating at work, especially to the people who pay your salary. I wonder what this girl was like in her interview. Hopefully she doesn't communicate with clients.
 
jen said:
I had one, but I was a business minor, so it must have been required. But even if it's not BUSINESS communication - is this what kids sound like when they write papers in college? This has to be a generational thing, as I don't remember new hires having the same problem when I was one. It's generally understood that you shouldn't sound like a 12 year old on Twitter when communicating at work, especially to the people who pay your salary. I wonder what this girl was like in her interview. Hopefully she doesn't communicate with clients.
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But the bright side is that those 10 page memos will be reduced to 140 characters.
 
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I find poor grammar and poor basic spelling to be rampant at my job.

Not so much a lack of professionalism.
 
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MinnesotaNorthStar said:
Are business communications classes not required in college anymore?
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The kinds of things that St. Clown was discussing were routinely expected of most high school students twenty years ago; part of the "professionalism" he cites includes things like showing up on time, deferring to your supervisor's instructions, using appropriate decorum, etc.
 
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FreshFish said:
The kinds of things that St. Clown was discussing were routinely expected of most high school students twenty years ago; part of the "professionalism" he cites includes things like showing up on time, deferring to your supervisor's instructions, using appropriate decorum, etc.
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I'm sure no one was ever truant, got smart with their teachers, or engaged in unsavory behaviors and activities. :p
 
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Awesome. Just ****ing awesome. I come home to find my plasma TV was on. With a static image.

I have no idea how both it and my receiver turned on but there is a god**** image burned in now. I know it will go away eventually but this ****ing ****es me off.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Agreed.

Poor Spelling/Grammar = Lack of Professionalism

It's a direct relationship...
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I have a friend from church, with at least a high school education, and writes like this:
ctfu if u all droped a selfie of what u looked like right now on instagram everybody would get scared and delete there instagram!!!
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I need a translator. And to send her "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Proper Spelling and Grammar."
 
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ShirtlessBob said:
I have a friend from church, with at least a high school education, and writes like this:

ctfu if u all droped a selfie of what u looked like right now on instagram everybody would get scared and delete there instagram!!!
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I need a translator. And to send her "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Proper Spelling and Grammar."
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My brain hurts....
 
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