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Game of Thrones Season 6: Lions and Wolves and Sand Snakes, oh my!

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Not that the scene was written well, but I think Jaime was just being a jerk so she would move on. He’s done a lot of terrible things for Cersei and I think he wants to kill her.

I could be wrong. But to have a half hour of happiness for one of the strongest female characters and then have her crying was not my favorite
 
ScoobyDoo said:
Ran out of ideas? Hardly. The core storyline was Snow/Dany and Sansa going full Little Finger. Which IMO was worse case scenario. I don't like where any of it is going.

As for the stupidity of the naval battle. The only thing that explains it is the cockiness of Tyrion and Dany with the dragons. Last time the dragons weren't there. They probably didn't know they had found a way to mass produce the scorpions and mount them on ships.

I don't think there were a lack of ideas. I think there were too many bad ones. Here's hoping Arya saves the day again cause her and Bran are all that's left that has any integrity. Hell, they even sent Ghost packing.

Tyrion dying at the end for his military stupidity would have been fitting. He's not clever. He stopped being clever the minute the show's writers started writing him instead of GRRM.
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Fixed that for you.
 
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I paused the episode there. I'm sure the next few scenes are going to deal with the Ironborn fleet pressing their advantage and attacking the forces on the beach. Are Tyrion, Varys and the Unsullied remnants going to be captured? If not, how will they survive in the middle of hostile territory with no supplies? Will they need to cut a deal with a local lord to keep them safe? Is their diminished force going to need to struggle to link back up with the Northern forces?

Oh wait- I unpaused it and in the next scene everyone is just standing battle ready outside Kings landing with no explanation.
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Someone on a diff. forum posted this and I'd say it's spot on. I don't really care about editing/pacing/time travel issues that move the story along and keep it from getting boring but this was... weird.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Someone on a diff. forum posted this and I'd say it's spot on. I don't really care about editing/pacing/time travel issues that move the story along and keep it from getting boring but this was... weird.
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It was forced by how close we are to the end. There was simply no time to have an Anabasis. Space and time are no match for a tight shooting schedule.
 
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trixR4kids said:
Yeah who knows, I get that they have finite resources and so they probably needed to wrap up the show in 6 episodes for whatever reason (also the pace can be a bit plodding at times so I like that they're speeding it up a little...) but some of the stuff like Jaime just undoing all his character development and being knight buddies with Brienne (that whole scene would be tough to rewatch if you went through the series again)... it's not totally unforeseeable but it's just a total reversal without any real buildup or explanation.

Bronn scene was laughably bad. The end with the dragon/army five feet away but Cersei's gonna give them a chance to fight the final battle for some reason... :facepalm: That after the dragon dies because they didn't do any basic scouting like five feet from the coast of King's Landing... I get that the 2nd dragon probably had to die somehow and I can suspend my belief that the arrows somehow hit the moving target perfectly on the first shot 1000 yards away in the wind but it seemed kinda lazy how it all happened (she flies through all the arrows on her dragon somehow... :***: ) and then Dany barely shows any emotion after it happens.

There's other stuff I'm forgetting too but this isn't the first time a good show struggled towards the end.
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And why's she dive-bombing straight at them through those spears if she's not gonna light them up in dragonfire?
 
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Kepler said:
It was forced by how close we are to the end. There was simply no time to have an Anabasis. Space and time are no match for a tight shooting schedule.
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I get that, though apparently they lacked writers too.
 
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We act like HBO said they had 6 episodes...if I'm not mistaken this was the writer's decision to do 6 episodes this season....maybe they were afraid of too many episodes plodding along slowly but it does seem like this could have used 8 episodes instead of 6.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
We act like HBO said they had 6 episodes...if I'm not mistaken this was the writer's decision to do 6 episodes this season....maybe they were afraid of too many episodes plodding along slowly but it does seem like this could have used 8 episodes instead of 6.
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With the extra length of the later episodes it's probably going to work out about 8.
 
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Shirtless Guy said:
We act like HBO said they had 6 episodes...if I'm not mistaken this was the writer's decision to do 6 episodes this season....maybe they were afraid of too many episodes plodding along slowly but it does seem like this could have used 8 episodes instead of 6.
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I think it was fewer episodes so they could beef up the CGI budget.
 
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GRRM came out today and announced which candidate he’s supporting in 2020.

Scintillating, it’s not like we’re waiting on a book George!
 
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Deutsche Gopher Fan said:
GRRM came out today and announced which candidate he’s supporting in 2020.

Scintillating, it’s not like we’re waiting on a book George!
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His statement says Biden is OK by him, not that he endorses him. His endorsement is anybody but Dump.
 
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Did anybody else see the coffee cup sitting in front of Danaerys last night? This is when she was sitting at the head table in Winterfell while Jon and Tormund were slapping each others' backs and joking.
 
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Did anybody else see the coffee cup sitting in front of Danaerys last night? This is when she was sitting at the head table in Winterfell while Jon and Tormund were slapping each others' backs and joking.
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Winterfell got a Starbucks before Wakanda
 
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I didn’t have a problem with the episode until the Cersei scene. Even then, I try to let myself enjoy things rather than get my undies in a bunch about plot holes.

Sometimes you need to just turn off your brain and enjoy things.
 
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I usually can do that but when it gets so bad that even someone like me notices how badly it’s jumped the shark (and not just overly critical internet nerds) that’s not a good sign. I didn’t have as many criticisms of seasons 5-6 like some and only towards the end of season 7 did I start noticing that maaaaybe the quality was a bit down. But the last two episodes were kinda embarrassing for a show that’s been as good as this one has been.
 
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I thought The Long Night was excellent. This last episode was just moving pieces and letting you breathe. Everyone’s mileage may vary and that’s ok. I like to start with a pretty low baseline and be blown away than set the expectations at a 9.5 and be continuously disappointed.

It certainly isn’t that 10/10 quality it was at its peak. Hard to do that for seven years. But like you said, it’s not as bad as the Writers Guild of the Internet thinks.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I thought The Long Night was excellent. This last episode was just moving pieces and letting you breathe. Everyone’s mileage may vary and that’s ok. I like to start with a pretty low baseline and be blown away than set the expectations at a 9.5 and be continuously disappointed.

It certainly isn’t that 10/10 quality it was at its peak. Hard to do that for seven years. But like you said, it’s not as bad as the Writers Guild of the Internet thinks.
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I thought the long night was great too. This last episode was an abomination though.
 
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The long night had some cool moments and it was suspenseful watching it live but I don't think it's one that's gonna lend itself to re-watching all that well and it just turned the Night King and all the white walker buildup into a complete joke (as well as Bran's character most likely). Those are probably the two biggest issues but there were a ton. These last two episodes are as bad as the internet thinks.
 
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trixR4kids said:
The long night had some cool moments and it was suspenseful watching it live but I don't think it's one that's gonna lend itself to re-watching all that well and it just turned the Night King and all the white walker buildup into a complete joke (as well as Bran's character most likely). Those are probably the two biggest issues but there were a ton. These last two episodes are as bad as the internet thinks.
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Wasn't a joke at all. The Night King was always the weakness of the undead army. His need to go after Bran was absolute. Arya had trained as an assassin for years. That episode had the proper build up and the proper resolution.

The stupidity of the last episode, however, is boundless.
 
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