BUPhD
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Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
I'll be honest, I giggled a little when I saw that truck.
I'll be honest, I giggled a little when I saw that truck.
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Ford Field Rink Installation
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Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
Ok, for all of you saying "oh, that's not so bad" - have you never been to a football stadium? When they clearly said they were changing the location of the rink to one of the endzones, what else did you expect?
The possible configurations were downright predictable:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?t=68795
#3 in that thread was the big winner:
And that's a visualization from the last row of the upper deck.
Ok, for all of you saying "oh, that's not so bad" - have you never been to a football stadium? When they clearly said they were changing the location of the rink to one of the endzones, what else did you expect?
The possible configurations were downright predictable:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?t=68795
#3 in that thread was the big winner:
And that's a visualization from the last row of the upper deck.
Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
I dont think the sight lines will be bad. What I do think will be bad is the acoustics. With all that space, it will be a very quiet building. Thinking about how loud Denver and Washington were, it'll sound like we're at a Pee Wee game with the lack of noise.
I dont think the sight lines will be bad. What I do think will be bad is the acoustics. With all that space, it will be a very quiet building. Thinking about how loud Denver and Washington were, it'll sound like we're at a Pee Wee game with the lack of noise.
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I was at the East regional and with ~2000 or less RIT fans at each game, noise wasn't a problem even with the TUC at less than 25% capacity.
If I were in charge of this (and I couldn't outright move it to Joe Louis Arena) I'd throw a removable barrier down behind the far-side risers. It would help a lot to keep some of the noise in, and keep those in the endzone from having to stare into the great abyss of 40,000 empty seats.
Trust me though, us RIT fans will do all we can to make it as loud as possible
I was at the East regional and with ~2000 or less RIT fans at each game, noise wasn't a problem even with the TUC at less than 25% capacity.
If I were in charge of this (and I couldn't outright move it to Joe Louis Arena) I'd throw a removable barrier down behind the far-side risers. It would help a lot to keep some of the noise in, and keep those in the endzone from having to stare into the great abyss of 40,000 empty seats.
Trust me though, us RIT fans will do all we can to make it as loud as possible
Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
There will be a curtain behind the risers. It will still allow a view of the replay board.
I was at the East regional and with ~2000 or less RIT fans at each game, noise wasn't a problem even with the TUC at less than 25% capacity.
If I were in charge of this (and I couldn't outright move it to Joe Louis Arena) I'd throw a removable barrier down behind the far-side risers. It would help a lot to keep some of the noise in, and keep those in the endzone from having to stare into the great abyss of 40,000 empty seats.
Trust me though, us RIT fans will do all we can to make it as loud as possible
There will be a curtain behind the risers. It will still allow a view of the replay board.
STATEdude3
Registered User
Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
Swigger that is a good idea. I have been to concerts and trade shows at Ford Field that have had a massive curtain dividing the building. I agree that would help with sound and visually compressing things.
The only issue is the location of the jumbotrons. They are absolutely massive, but their location requires one to look to the other end of the field if you are sitting in the endzones.
Edit: Davy beat me to it!
Swigger that is a good idea. I have been to concerts and trade shows at Ford Field that have had a massive curtain dividing the building. I agree that would help with sound and visually compressing things.
The only issue is the location of the jumbotrons. They are absolutely massive, but their location requires one to look to the other end of the field if you are sitting in the endzones.
Edit: Davy beat me to it!
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Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
Yeah, Ford Field, a week ago Saturday, prior to the CCHA Championship game. Got the view from many different vantage points. Oh, that's not so bad. Actually, it's pretty good!
Yeah, Ford Field, a week ago Saturday, prior to the CCHA Championship game. Got the view from many different vantage points. Oh, that's not so bad. Actually, it's pretty good!
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
I don't care, its still a football stadium. These 3 games are way too important to be decided on temporary ice in a giant half full stadium. I hope the FFFF flops big time.
STATEdude3
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Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
Shirtless guy you do realize that this ice is just as temporary as the stuff in the NHL arenas that is removed for concerts and basketball and things like that, right? The game is indoors and the climate is controlled. I bet there will not be one single problem with the ice.
As for the venue...we went from a under 10k a year in providence, to 14k in Albany to 20k in DC. Is it really such a bad thing that the Frozen Four now sells out standard hockey venues. There is not a single arena that can match the demand or the Frozen Four. If there are 23k at Ford Field then the event is a success because it allowed the maximum amount of fans the opportunity to be a part of the championship.
Shirtless guy you do realize that this ice is just as temporary as the stuff in the NHL arenas that is removed for concerts and basketball and things like that, right? The game is indoors and the climate is controlled. I bet there will not be one single problem with the ice.
As for the venue...we went from a under 10k a year in providence, to 14k in Albany to 20k in DC. Is it really such a bad thing that the Frozen Four now sells out standard hockey venues. There is not a single arena that can match the demand or the Frozen Four. If there are 23k at Ford Field then the event is a success because it allowed the maximum amount of fans the opportunity to be a part of the championship.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
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I thought most NHL/NBA arenas just placed the court over the ice when changing?
I think it is just plain stupid to not have the most important games in the College Hockey season played in a football stadium that won't be full. The players deserve to have better than temporary ice (even if you are right) and a half full stadium that probably won't any atmosphere. I can't argue that the regionals didn't have the same issues but I disagree with a regional at the X because that was overkill no matter who was there for the price.
Yeah and a bunch of people spent $190 almost a year in advance to watch in a football stadium while others are being allowed to buy tickets tomorrow for $40 to attend the same event?
I thought most NHL/NBA arenas just placed the court over the ice when changing?
I think it is just plain stupid to not have the most important games in the College Hockey season played in a football stadium that won't be full. The players deserve to have better than temporary ice (even if you are right) and a half full stadium that probably won't any atmosphere. I can't argue that the regionals didn't have the same issues but I disagree with a regional at the X because that was overkill no matter who was there for the price.
cetihcra
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Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
You do realize that they don't REMOVE the ice in NHL arenas when there's a basketball game or concert scheduled, right?
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You do realize that they don't REMOVE the ice in NHL arenas when there's a basketball game or concert scheduled, right?
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STATEdude3
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In my opinion the atmosphere will be what the fans make it. The basketball regionals are often played in football stadiums that hold 65,000+ yet there is no lack of atmosphere when they cut it off at about 30,000. I believe that the atmosphere will all be determined by the fans of the schools involved.
In St. Louis in 2007 the Maine, MSU, and BC fans were all dead. The only life in the building was the Sioux Nation. Without them that would have been a stale event. It's not about how full the place is, or how large the venue is. It's about what the fans put into it and the quality of the game on the ice.
The rink will be completed this Saturday and there are various events including public skating that will make sure the ice is broken in and any kinks are worked out before the tournament begins on Thursday.
In my opinion the atmosphere will be what the fans make it. The basketball regionals are often played in football stadiums that hold 65,000+ yet there is no lack of atmosphere when they cut it off at about 30,000. I believe that the atmosphere will all be determined by the fans of the schools involved.
In St. Louis in 2007 the Maine, MSU, and BC fans were all dead. The only life in the building was the Sioux Nation. Without them that would have been a stale event. It's not about how full the place is, or how large the venue is. It's about what the fans put into it and the quality of the game on the ice.
The rink will be completed this Saturday and there are various events including public skating that will make sure the ice is broken in and any kinks are worked out before the tournament begins on Thursday.
Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
We are sitting in Riser 01, about 30 something rows up.
Does anyone know if the risers 01 through 05 on the east side of the rink (or right of the picture) will somehow be connected to the permanent seating areas?
I have a funny feeling that if we want to use the restrooms or go to a concession stand on the concourse, it will be a 30+ row trip down to ice level and a 40+ row trip up to get to the concourse. And vice versa back to our seats.
We are sitting in Riser 01, about 30 something rows up.
Does anyone know if the risers 01 through 05 on the east side of the rink (or right of the picture) will somehow be connected to the permanent seating areas?
I have a funny feeling that if we want to use the restrooms or go to a concession stand on the concourse, it will be a 30+ row trip down to ice level and a 40+ row trip up to get to the concourse. And vice versa back to our seats.
STATEdude3
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Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
It depends on the event actually. Some venues do remove the ice for basketball, while others do cover it. For most concerts though the ice is removed. And even when it is not removed, there is a lot of work that goes into getting the ice back to top shape after it is uncovered. It's not like this portable ice system is going to be on a trial run.
It depends on the event actually. Some venues do remove the ice for basketball, while others do cover it. For most concerts though the ice is removed. And even when it is not removed, there is a lot of work that goes into getting the ice back to top shape after it is uncovered. It's not like this portable ice system is going to be on a trial run.
Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
You're right, they don't actually remove the ice for basketball games - they insulate it and cover it.
But he has a point - the actual technology isn't any different just because it's mobile. Ice melts, so all ice is 'temporary.' Even year-round ice arenas still melt off their ice and completely replace the sheet every so often.
The ice will be relatively new, but so was the ice at last year's FF in DC (the Circus was in town a couple weeks before, IIRC, and they take the ice out for that).
You're right, they don't actually remove the ice for basketball games - they insulate it and cover it.
But he has a point - the actual technology isn't any different just because it's mobile. Ice melts, so all ice is 'temporary.' Even year-round ice arenas still melt off their ice and completely replace the sheet every so often.
The ice will be relatively new, but so was the ice at last year's FF in DC (the Circus was in town a couple weeks before, IIRC, and they take the ice out for that).
STATEdude3
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Re: Ford Field Rink Installation
I am not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure they will be setting up bathroom facilities (nice ones, not porta-jons) behind the risers. I would assume there would be concessions available there as well. There are going to be more than 7,000 people in the risers and the logistics of them all having to move to the main concourse for these needs is virtually impossible.
I am not 100% certain but I'm pretty sure they will be setting up bathroom facilities (nice ones, not porta-jons) behind the risers. I would assume there would be concessions available there as well. There are going to be more than 7,000 people in the risers and the logistics of them all having to move to the main concourse for these needs is virtually impossible.
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NOT true, as far as I know (unless things have changed). I know in Boston, they lay down a complete floor OVER the ice and then they put the basketball court OVER that. I have seen the bull crew do this several times...often the Bruins and Celtics both play the same day. The problem with "new" ice is that it hasn't settled and is typically very slow. When they used to have the NCAA Regionals in Worcester at the Centrum (before there was a minor league hockey team there), the ice was terrible!
NOT true, as far as I know (unless things have changed). I know in Boston, they lay down a complete floor OVER the ice and then they put the basketball court OVER that. I have seen the bull crew do this several times...often the Bruins and Celtics both play the same day. The problem with "new" ice is that it hasn't settled and is typically very slow. When they used to have the NCAA Regionals in Worcester at the Centrum (before there was a minor league hockey team there), the ice was terrible!
STATEdude3
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