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Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
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ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
No Congressional leader has ever been as blatant about it as Mitch McConnell. If you remember correctly Tip worked with Reagan. Mitch won't work with Obama on anything.
No Congressional leader has ever been as blatant about it as Mitch McConnell. If you remember correctly Tip worked with Reagan. Mitch won't work with Obama on anything.
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
What??????
The crisis occured in 2008; the TEA Party didn't even start until after Pelosi and Reid rammed the PPACA through Congress.
How can something that was not even in existence when the crisis occured be the "direct cause" of the crisis?
Wow.
What??????
The crisis occured in 2008; the TEA Party didn't even start until after Pelosi and Reid rammed the PPACA through Congress.
How can something that was not even in existence when the crisis occured be the "direct cause" of the crisis?
Wow.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
It's been fairly common in Europe, but in the US no opposition party has yet successfully sabotaged the government in order to take control of it, but the GOP is free to try. The Federalists and the Whigs have some advice for where that leads.
Few parties put a gun to the country's head to achieve it. A few have tried.
It's been fairly common in Europe, but in the US no opposition party has yet successfully sabotaged the government in order to take control of it, but the GOP is free to try. The Federalists and the Whigs have some advice for where that leads.
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
um...Obama cut over $700 billion from Medicare to fund PPACA, no?
My thoughts are that you are setting up a bogus "argument" in the first place. Please show me where anyone has suggested cutting Medicare? The premium support model says take the money that is already being spent anyway and spent it more effectively. You have not explained how that equates to a "cut" when the funding level stays the same.
Also, please show me where anyone has proposed tax cuts for the rich. the proposal is that we make the tax code more growth-friendly by using revenue-neutral adjustments: there's a one-for-one trade-off between fewer deductions and lower rates, so that revenue is the same either way but one rewards productivity instead of being well-connected to a special-interest Congressman. Where is the "cut" here?
So you raise two phantoms, neither of which has been proposed, and then ask someone why your phantoms have no substance?
or are you a Democratic speechwriter testing out material?
um...Obama cut over $700 billion from Medicare to fund PPACA, no?
My thoughts are that you are setting up a bogus "argument" in the first place. Please show me where anyone has suggested cutting Medicare? The premium support model says take the money that is already being spent anyway and spent it more effectively. You have not explained how that equates to a "cut" when the funding level stays the same.
Also, please show me where anyone has proposed tax cuts for the rich. the proposal is that we make the tax code more growth-friendly by using revenue-neutral adjustments: there's a one-for-one trade-off between fewer deductions and lower rates, so that revenue is the same either way but one rewards productivity instead of being well-connected to a special-interest Congressman. Where is the "cut" here?
So you raise two phantoms, neither of which has been proposed, and then ask someone why your phantoms have no substance?
or are you a Democratic speechwriter testing out material?
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
Sorry, we've been too busy beating our wives. Have you stopped that yet?
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
Actually, the TEA Party started after the government bailed out Fannie and Freddie in March of 2009, and decided to subsidise the losers' mortgages.
What??????
The crisis occured in 2008; the TEA Party didn't even start until after Pelosi and Reid rammed the PPACA through Congress.
How can something that was not even in existence when the crisis occured be the "direct cause" of the crisis?
Wow.
Actually, the TEA Party started after the government bailed out Fannie and Freddie in March of 2009, and decided to subsidise the losers' mortgages.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
(except when it counts. I know, I know)
Meanwhile, some Republicans are worried about the effect of Ryan downticket.
I dunno about you, but we've been beating Harvard...
(except when it counts. I know, I know)
Meanwhile, some Republicans are worried about the effect of Ryan downticket.
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
I beat my wife up every morning. On weekdays, I'm out of the house before she wakes up. On weekends, since I beat her up then too, I get up first to make coffee.
I beat my wife up every morning. On weekdays, I'm out of the house before she wakes up. On weekends, since I beat her up then too, I get up first to make coffee.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
You certainly haven't been beating a team that spent most of the year in the basement, though...
You certainly haven't been beating a team that spent most of the year in the basement, though...
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
Try again. Do you recall the debt ceiling debacle and the hostage taking of the full faith and credit of the US, brought to you by your local TP rump? That's what we're talking about here.
What??????
The crisis occured in 2008; the TEA Party didn't even start until after Pelosi and Reid rammed the PPACA through Congress.
How can something that was not even in existence when the crisis occured be the "direct cause" of the crisis?
Wow.
Try again. Do you recall the debt ceiling debacle and the hostage taking of the full faith and credit of the US, brought to you by your local TP rump? That's what we're talking about here.
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
I usually beat my wife up also, though on occasion she beats me up. This morning I beat her a good hour or so.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
Not a phantom. The across the board tax cut Romney has been proposing cannot be paid for by closing tax loopholes. There are thousands of articles written on it and its been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Thus its a huge giveaway to the rich. Don't worry though, it will trickle down.
Not a phantom. The across the board tax cut Romney has been proposing cannot be paid for by closing tax loopholes. There are thousands of articles written on it and its been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Thus its a huge giveaway to the rich. Don't worry though, it will trickle down.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
This is what happens when the attention whores want you to believe that they're victims.
The US dollar should have a junk rating right now. Any normal person that spends like this would be bankrupt in a month.
This is what happens when the attention whores want you to believe that they're victims.
The US dollar should have a junk rating right now. Any normal person that spends like this would be bankrupt in a month.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
8-0-2 in the RS the prior 5 years, though...You certainly haven't been beating a team that spent most of the year in the basement, though...
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
Obama's "cuts" are made up of givebacks from the pharma and hospital industries that Medicare would have paid for otherwise. You do recall them being on board, right? Its not being made up of screwing granny out of her Medicare.
Next, freezing health care expenditures as a block grant, while health care costs go up even if only at the rate of inflation = a cut in Medicare. Worse, the cut doesn't affect the people who are using it the most, those over 55. Again, why is exempting them a good idea.
Lastly, cutting the top tax rate from 35% to 25% is a tax cut for the rich. Why you're struggling with this concept is beyond me but I'm thinking the voters are going to educate you on this concept come Nov 6th.
Obama's "cuts" are made up of givebacks from the pharma and hospital industries that Medicare would have paid for otherwise. You do recall them being on board, right? Its not being made up of screwing granny out of her Medicare.
Next, freezing health care expenditures as a block grant, while health care costs go up even if only at the rate of inflation = a cut in Medicare. Worse, the cut doesn't affect the people who are using it the most, those over 55. Again, why is exempting them a good idea.
Lastly, cutting the top tax rate from 35% to 25% is a tax cut for the rich. Why you're struggling with this concept is beyond me but I'm thinking the voters are going to educate you on this concept come Nov 6th.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
Isn't she the poster child for the Tea Party? It's always been about her.
Isn't she the poster child for the Tea Party? It's always been about her.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
If she wants me to quit, she needs to use the safe word
If she wants me to quit, she needs to use the safe word
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Elections 2012 -- Carrion My Wayward Son!
Not the RNC, though. They sure as heck weren't interested in having her speak at their convention.
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