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Related: College hockey rules

Related: College hockey rules

For the old(er)-timers here: What do you think are the most significant changes to college hockey rules in the last 30-40 years? Which changes were good (IYO) and which were maybe not so great? I'm thinking of things that either help or unnecessarily interfere with the game.
 
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Derek Shepard and Marco Hunt from the WCHA have to be the worst so-called officials in organized hockey. The stuff they let ND get away with on Sunday was unbelievable. Unfortunately Derek"s Daddy is head of officials for the WCHA so nothing will happen to him. The WCHA did suspend Frattin from ND for one game. Big deal:mad:
 
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I don't think all the refs are bad..... I think there are some guys who are good. It is deciding wich ones can get the job done and which ones need to go.

That is what we all need to decide and send that to the league.
 
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All I know is that Dumas has the most unfortunate name for a hockey ref ever. As most Yale fans thought last weekend Dumas = Dumba**.

Never seen a ref finger wave more players for cheap shots

"cut that out boys, or you may be penalized"
 
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LTsatch said:
All I know is that Dumas has the most unfortunate name for a hockey ref ever. As most Yale fans thought last weekend Dumas = Dumba**.

Never seen a ref finger wave more players for cheap shots

"cut that out boys, or you may be penalized"
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I agree....it reminds of the library scene in Shawshank Redemption. There is a ref with a profoundly fortunate name, however, Mr. Robert St. Lawrence;) !!!
 
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hockeyguy said:
I don't think all the refs are bad..... I think there are some guys who are good. It is deciding wich ones can get the job done and which ones need to go.

That is what we all need to decide and send that to the league.
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Perhaps there should be some sort of performance-based system (I'm thinking like the English Premier League) where the top referees from a pool get promoted up into the ECAC and the worst performing ECAC referees are demoted and can then try and earn their way back up.

Of course the question then becomes, how do you evaluate referees in a way that is objective as possible?
 
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Got 6 said:
First, we would have to agree that Paul Stewart was a good NHL ref. If you ask him, he is the greatest ref ever. Reality from my point of view is he was average and, further, that mostly he is interested in boosting his ego and picking up random women than he is on focusing on making ECAC officiating better. In Albany for the ECAC tourney last year, he put a lot more effort into his dates than he did into the officiating product on the ice.
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I am really stunned that people think Paul Stewart was a good NHL Ref, the guy was an embarassment. Every game he put on a show that was all about him and was everything an official should not be. Especially in Buffalo, no one was said when he retired...
 
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Tom Naeger said:
I am really stunned that people think Paul Stewart was a good NHL Ref, the guy was an embarassment. Every game he put on a show that was all about him and was everything an official should not be. Especially in Buffalo, no one was said when he retired...
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His ego is way bigger than his officating talent. The mark of a bad referee is one who makes the game about him and I recall him doing that too. I still remember Piotrowski from the CCHA who did our 1989 series against Wisconsin which we lost (thanks to Curtis Joseph)....unbelievably good officiating. Made every right call, didn't disrupt the flow and didn't notice him until after the games when I bought him a beer at the Tick Tock and told him great job.

I think the problem in the ECAC is they just don't have a talent pool to pick from. I still think they should hire guys from the OHL and QJMHL
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
Some of the hardest hits I saw this weekend in the Quinnipiac-Union series were the ones the linesmen took! :eek:
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Not to mention, several times, they were hit by the puck when one team was trying to clear the puck out of their respective defensive zone. Specifically, they prevented a rush up the ice a couple of times - one for each team that I can remember.

I think I actually heard one fan ask for an interference penalty. :confused:
 
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aweise said:
Specifically, it prevented a rush up the ice - one for each team.
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It was way more than one each for the series...

I think I actually heard one fan ask for an interference penalty.
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If you were anywhere near section I or 7 you would have heard that (and a whole lot more) several times over the weekend! :eek:

The refs were terrible both ways but I feel moreso against us.
 
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bothman said:
Perhaps there should be some sort of performance-based system (I'm thinking like the English Premier League) where the top referees from a pool get promoted up into the ECAC and the worst performing ECAC referees are demoted and can then try and earn their way back up.
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How can you get demoted from the ECAC ;) :confused:
 
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Funny people think that Feola and Kotrya both s*ck... Did you get to get to see their olympic rings? Have you been recognized internationally for excellence in your career? Employee of the month at IHOP downt count.

As far as the linesmen getting in the way? Did the defensemen hit them with the puck or did the officials skate up to and check the players? Do you know where the linesmen are supposed to be?
Maybe the players should look before just clearing the puck? No that cant be?

I bet you honk your car horn in traffic jams because the whole world is out to get you...

Let it go; you will live longer; we need people like you to keep making our Grande Carmel Soy Latte with light whipped cream.
 
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burgie12 said:
Saturday's RIT-UConn game has 4 officials, 2 refs and 2 linesmen. Feola was one of the refs. He still sucks.
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That must have changed either this or last season, as there were 2 refs and a linesman when I went to Tate Rink.

Feola's decent, but not necessarily one of the better ones. I was just hoping, since he had to do the playoffs for RPI, that he would have missed his plane from Vancouver. :D
 
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Here's yet another comment on officiating, this time from John Shannon, analyst for HockeyCentral: "I don't think I'm alone, but I do have a few concerns about officiating in the NHL. I certainly think (or maybe hope) that others inside the NHL have the same concerns. I am even more concerned about the future of the two-man refereeing system. Someone (read the league) has to invest in more two-man development in the minor leagues. On-the-job-training at this level is not satisfactory, there has to be more two-man officiating well before the young officials get to the NHL. I am also waiting for the announcement soon that Bill McCreary will be asked to delay his retirement for atleast one more year."
So there you have it, guys! Even NHL officials stink! Face it. Deal with it.
It's NOT gonna change. Heck, I'm willing to believe that even the soccer refs in Argentina stink! Wait: maybe if they went to a two-ref system . . . .
 
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Funny thing is I've been to a number of ECACHL games over the last few years and it seems many of the refs are former Hockey East linesman. And they weren't too good in that role.
 
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The league should be embarrassed after the spectacle in Albany this weekend. In the championship game alone, Cornell picked on almost every play, was constantly holding, in some cases tackling, Union players and the best part was at the end of the 2nd period when Colin Greening cross-checked a Union player 5 times in about 20 seconds to prevent him from getting back up on his skates. Ref looked right at it and didn't call it to the disbelief of all of us in the neutral SLU section. There was one game all weekend that wasn't a clutch / obstruction fest and it was the second semi-final on Friday.

Unless the league does something to recognize and fix this, they are going to have a really hard time filling the seats in Atlantic ****ty or any other place.
 
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