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ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

After all of that mathematical nonsense, teams actually played some games (the first nearly full league slate in a while). Here are your projected standings:

1. Quinnipiac (39)
2. Dartmouth (29)
3. Yale (27)
4. Union (24.1)
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5. Cornell (23.6)
6. Colgate (23)
7. Princeton (22)
8. Harvard (17)
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9. RPI (16.2)
10. St. Lawrence (15.6)
11. Brown (14.0)
12. Clarkson (13.8)

(Rounding error: +1)

Quinnipiac came away with fewer than 4 points for the first time all season, but they maintain a 10 point lead in the standings. Union jumped back into a bye, but just barely, knocking out Cornell in the process. Similarly, Harvard and RPI switched spots on either side of the home-ice line. Lastly (pun intended), Clarkson fell back in to the bottom spot after being swept this weekend. Just 3 points separate 7th from 12th, and only 5 separate 3rd from 7th. This all just means that the races for a bye and home-ice will be hotly contested. The strongest and weakest "mythical opponents" will face Brown and RPI, respectively.
 
Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

Another weekend goes by and we are now exactly halfway through the ECAC season. Here are your halfway point projections:

1. Quinnipiac (39)
2. Yale (29)
3. Dartmouth (28)
4. Union (25)
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5. Cornell (22.5)
6. Princeton (22.1)
7. RPI (20)
8. Colgate (19)
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9. St. Lawrence (15.4)
10. Brown (15.2)
11. Harvard (14.8)
12. Clarkson (14.3)

(Rounding error: -1)

Dartmouth fell below second place for the first time all season with their split, falling behind Yale, who beat Dartmouth on Saturday. Colgate dropped two positions on a pair of losses, allowing Princeton (idle) and RPI (two wins) to jump up. Harvard's no-point weekend dropped them nearly to the basement. The lower tiers have separated slightly, while Quinnipiac remains miles ahead. The strongest and weakest "mythical opponents" belong to Brown and RPI, respectively (again).
 
Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

Another weekend of exciting league match-ups brings us ever closer to the end of the season. Here are the new projected final standings:

1. Quinnipiac (39)
2. Yale (28)
3. Dartmouth (26.3)
4. Union (25.5)
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5. Princeton (22.12)
6. Colgate (22.11)
7. Cornell (19.7)
8. RPI (19.5)
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9. St. Lawrence (19.4)
10. Brown (15.91)
11. Clarkson (15.88)
12. Harvard (11)

(Rounding error: 0)

After this weekend, no team changed their plans for the first week of the playoffs. The top four remain unmoved after the weekend, though Union (beat RPI OOC) moved closer to Dartmouth (2 pts). The middle four underwent a bit of a shuffle. Cornell's no-point weekend dropped them to within 0.3 points of 9th, while Princeton (idle) and Colgate (4 pts) jumped into a near tie (0.012 points separation) for 5th. The only movement in the bottom four came from Harvard, who continued their ECAC losing streak, which is now a stunning 9 games long. This has them sitting rather (un)comfortably in last place. SLU is now, however, in striking distance of RPI (lost to Union OOC) in 8th place (0.05 points back) and a home series to start the playoffs.
 
Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

We had a nearly full league slate this weekend (....stupid Beanpot scheduling), and plenty of teams moved around. Here are the new projected standings:

1. Quinnipiac (39)
2. Yale (28)
3. Union (26)
4. Dartmouth (25)
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5. RPI (22)
6. Colgate (21.4)
7. St. Lawrence (21.2)
8. Princeton (20)
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9. Brown (18.4)
10. Clarkson (18.3)
11. Cornell (16)
12. Harvard (10)

(Rounding error: 0)

Union passed Dartmouth (1 pt) after tying the Big Green on Friday. RPI (4 pts) made a big jump up into 5th, but Colgate (2 pts) and SLU (3 pts) are both within 0.52 points. RPI's jump came with Princeton's drop from 5th to 8th on their no-point weekend. Brown (3 pts) and Clarkson (3 pts) each got little bumps to accommodate Cornell's (0 pts) drop from 7th to 11th. Harvard remains in last and is only expected to win 4 more points in their last 7 games. The toughest and weakest remaining "mythical opponents" belong to Clarkson and RPI, respectively.
A note on the Cleary: Quinnipiac currently has a 7 point lead in the actual standings, with the season entering its final stretch. Here's a look at each team's Cleary elimination number (the number of points that Quinnipiac has to win/the team has to lose to eliminate the team from Cleary contention):
Yale 8
Union 7
Dartmouth 5
St. Lawrence 5
Princeton 5
RPI 4
Colgate 4
Clarkson 4
Brown 2
Cornell 1
Harvard E

This means that with a 4-point weekend, everyone but Yale and Union will be unable to win first outright (Dartmouth, SLU, and Princeton could still tie). Yale and Union can each be eliminated if they have bad weekends.

EDIT: Added one to all of the numbers so Quinnipiac leads outright, rather than being tied for 1st.
 
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Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

lugnut92 said:
Cornell E

These numbers assume that Quinnipiac will win all tiebreakers (which given what they've already done and the projections is the case).
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They are likely to win all of the tiebreakers, but they've only wrapped them up against three teams and actually could stand to lose the Brown tiebreaker straight up (without getting into second layer or higher tiebreaker criteria). It appears that they would win by ECAC Wins (at the least) against SLU, Colgate, and Clarkson, but they're not guaranteed. And, Yale, Dartmouth, and Cornell would likely potentially come down to the "Record vs Top X" criteria.

Another point is that finishing tied with Quinnipiac still qualifies you to win the Cleary Cup, you just wouldn't get the #1 seed. So, I guess I have a two-fold point to make. A) Cornell isn't actually eliminated. B) Calling it the Cleary Elimination Number is misleading.
 
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The latest projection shows RPI getting 9 points in their last 8 games. Could actually be a pretty accurate number. I just do not know where those points will come from-everyone except Harvard (who we don't play) has suddenly started to play so much better than early in the season. At one time it looked like we had an edge on many other teams with a relatively weaker schedule at the end-but i see no softies left. The only team we will face who is not playing well is Cornell and we get them at Lynah which is never a walk in the park. But if we play like we did this past weekend-the sky is the limit!
 
Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

burgie12 said:
Calling it the Cleary Elimination Number is misleading.
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Whoops. I added one to every number in the original post to fix the tie problem. Sorry to mislead. I should just leave the bye, home ice and all of that to your thread.
 
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Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

This is a little late, but here are this week's expected final ECAC standings:

1. Quinnipiac (40)
2. Yale (28)
3. Dartmouth (23.8)
4. RPI (23.7)
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5. Princeton (22.9)
6. Union (22.5)
7. St. Lawrence (21)
8. Colgate (19.2)
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9. Clarkson (19.1)
10. Brown (18)
11. Cornell (15)
12. Harvard (11)

(Rounding error: +1)

Quinnipiac (4 pts) finally reached #1 in the nation, but they've been #1 here for quite some time. RPI (4 pts) jumped into the land of byes, while Union (0 pts) fell down to 6th. Princeton (4 pts) jumped from just above the home/road line to just below the home/bye line. Colgate (0 pts) dropped into dangerous territory, and is now just 0.07 pts ahead of Clarkson (2 pts). The toughest and weakest remaining mythical opponents belong to Brown and Princeton, respectively.

Yale is now the only team that can catch Quinnipiac, but it would take a miracle. Any combination of Quinnipiac winning and Yale losing 4 points gives Q the Cleary Cup, so the Bobcats could have this wrapped up on Friday night.
 
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lugnut92 said:
This is a little late, but here are this week's expected final ECAC standings:

1. Quinnipiac (40)
2. Yale (28)
3. Dartmouth (23.8)
4. RPI (23.7)
-----
5. Princeton (22.9)
6. Union (22.5)
7. St. Lawrence (21)
8. Colgate (19.2)
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9. Clarkson (19.1)
10. Brown (18)
11. Cornell (15)
12. Harvard (11)

(Rounding error: +1)

Quinnipiac (4 pts) finally reached #1 in the nation, but they've been #1 here for quite some time. RPI (4 pts) jumped into the land of byes, while Union (0 pts) fell down to 6th. Princeton (4 pts) jumped from just above the home/road line to just below the home/bye line. Colgate (0 pts) dropped into dangerous territory, and is now just 0.07 pts ahead of Clarkson (0 pts). The toughest and weakest remaining mythical opponents belong to Brown and Princeton, respectively.

Yale is now the only team that can catch Quinnipiac, but it would take a miracle. Any combination of Quinnipiac winning and Yale losing 4 points gives Q the Cleary Cup, so the Bobcats could have this wrapped up on Friday night.
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I'd love to see them do it on Saturday night when I am at the Bank to see them play Clarkson.
 
Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

For a much more in-depth look at how the season may end based on the power of MATHEMATICS, head on over to burgie12's absolutely amazing thread "ECAC Byes and Home-Ice - A Mathematical Journey 2012-13". Over there, you'll find the high and low possible finishes for each team, the threshold levels for eligibility/clinching both byes and home ice, and extensive simulations of the end of the season, which include probabilities for final standings and the first round of the playoffs.
 
Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

lugnut92 said:
This is a little late, but here are this week's expected final ECAC standings:

1. Quinnipiac (40)
2. Yale (28)
3. Dartmouth (23.8)
4. RPI (23.7)
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5. Princeton (22.9)
6. Union (22.5)
7. St. Lawrence (21)
8. Colgate (19.2)
-----
9. Clarkson (19.1)
10. Brown (18)
11. Cornell (15)
12. Harvard (11)

(Rounding error: +1)

Quinnipiac (4 pts) finally reached #1 in the nation, but they've been #1 here for quite some time. RPI (4 pts) jumped into the land of byes, while Union (0 pts) fell down to 6th. Princeton (4 pts) jumped from just above the home/road line to just below the home/bye line. Colgate (0 pts) dropped into dangerous territory, and is now just 0.07 pts ahead of Clarkson (0 pts). The toughest and weakest remaining mythical opponents belong to Brown and Princeton, respectively.

Yale is now the only team that can catch Quinnipiac, but it would take a miracle. Any combination of Quinnipiac winning and Yale losing 4 points gives Q the Cleary Cup, so the Bobcats could have this wrapped up on Friday night.
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Are you sure both Union and Clarkson took 0 points last weekend? As happy as that would make me, they played each other, so one of them had to take some points somewhere. :p
 
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RKarger said:
Are you sure both Union and Clarkson took 0 points last weekend? As happy as that would make me, they played each other, so one of them had to take some points somewhere. :p
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Perhaps my advice was taken, where the roof caved in and they both had to forfeit. :D
 
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RKarger said:
Are you sure both Union and Clarkson took 0 points last weekend? As happy as that would make me, they played each other, so one of them had to take some points somewhere. :p
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Whoops. I blame the fact that I wrote it on a train.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Didn't hear much of it on Saturday after the player intros. :)
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Wasn't that just a nice tasteful and pleasantly quiet evening? Jenny and i spent many evenings up there listening to that effing horn blasting endlessly. :eek:
 
Re: ECAC Projected Standings 2012-13

I think it's late enough in the season to justify mid-weekend updates. With 30 ECAC games left to play, here are your updated standings:

1. Quinnipiac (38)
2. RPI (24.7)
3. Yale (24.6)
4. Union (23.9)
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5. St. Lawrence (23)
6. Dartmouth (22)
7. Princeton (21)
8. Clarkson (20)
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9. Brown (19)
10. Colgate (18)
11. Cornell (16)
12. Harvard (13)

(Rounding error: 0)

Quinnipiac has clinched the Cleary Cup.
 
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DrDemento said:
Wasn't that just a nice tasteful and pleasantly quiet evening? Jenny and i spent many evenings up there listening to that effing horn blasting endlessly. :eek:
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You'd think they'd be confident enough in their team that they wouldn't have to use it after every player intro and period entrance...
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You'd think they'd be confident enough in their team that they wouldn't have to use it after every player intro and period entrance...
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FD: in the old days they didn't use it the same way. They blasted when they came roaring out of the locker room and everyone hit the ice. They used it after evry goal of course. But sometimes they would 'lean' on the button after a goal and it would seem to go on endlessly. And of course in the old days-they had those teams that could score 8-10 times a game and often more. It is not for nothing that they have over 1300 wins in that program (and the most anyone has over us).
 
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