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ECAC Hockey Finales Will Not Be Televised
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I'll admit that I'm no expert on the TV or cable business so maybe I'm being naive, but this whole situation is inexcusable. I mean they've had over a year to figure this out. It's really a blackeye for the league. For once I actually agree with Mike Shaffer, except maybe the "major conference" refernce. "It's very disappointing," Cornell coach Mike Schafer said. "One of the reasons we went down to Atlantic City is they gave us a great guarantee. Not to be on TV is as one of the major conferences is really disappointing. For our alumni base across the country, they depend on TV [to televise the] semis and the championship games and get an opportunity to see your team play. I think it's a big failure for our league not to have those games on TV. It's something that can't happen."
I'll admit that I'm no expert on the TV or cable business so maybe I'm being naive, but this whole situation is inexcusable. I mean they've had over a year to figure this out. It's really a blackeye for the league. For once I actually agree with Mike Shaffer, except maybe the "major conference" refernce. "It's very disappointing," Cornell coach Mike Schafer said. "One of the reasons we went down to Atlantic City is they gave us a great guarantee. Not to be on TV is as one of the major conferences is really disappointing. For our alumni base across the country, they depend on TV [to televise the] semis and the championship games and get an opportunity to see your team play. I think it's a big failure for our league not to have those games on TV. It's something that can't happen."
DavidSec17
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He as also done a disservice by moving the ECAC Final 4 out of venues that made sense and moved it to A.C. Albany wasn't perfect, but I would have loved to have seen the attendance this weekend with 3 of the 4 teams involved being New York schools, one being only 15 miles from Albany. Instead it won't even be seen unless you sit infront of a computer for 6 hours. Kudos to RPI TV for at least giving fans of this league an oppurtinity to watch the games. More than we can say for the powers of the ECAC.
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Agreed, not to mention the high quality broadcasts WRPI produces. Not to defend Hagwell, but it's my understanding that the AC move was voted on and approved by the ADs in basically a money grab.
MarkEagleUSA
C'mon Q!
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I too agree with what Schaffer said. It's a travesty to the players, fans, and alumni of the schools that made it. And while RPI-TV does a top-notch job, it sounds like we won't be seeing HD-quality live streaming. I can think of better ways to spend $36 (based on $9/game) but I'm interested in seeing these games and cannot justify the cost of traveling to see them.
I was told last year while I was in AC that the league gets the rink for free in exchange for 50% of the gate and all concession sales. If that's true, then the league is only getting the other half of the gate. Based on last years attendance figures, I wouldn't call that a money grab.
I too agree with what Schaffer said. It's a travesty to the players, fans, and alumni of the schools that made it. And while RPI-TV does a top-notch job, it sounds like we won't be seeing HD-quality live streaming. I can think of better ways to spend $36 (based on $9/game) but I'm interested in seeing these games and cannot justify the cost of traveling to see them.
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From the archives: Hagwell discusses the move in 2009:
http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/A-conversation-with-ECACHL-commissioner-Steve-555194.php
From the archives: Hagwell discusses the move in 2009:
http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/A-conversation-with-ECACHL-commissioner-Steve-555194.php
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The quality of the stream you offer normally is incredible. Perhaps you should consider offering your expertise to schools throughout to get this kind of broadcast quality available to as many as possible, and help grow the sport even more.
The quality of the stream you offer normally is incredible. Perhaps you should consider offering your expertise to schools throughout to get this kind of broadcast quality available to as many as possible, and help grow the sport even more.
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And people wonder why hockey is not regarded very highly in most of the country...they televise out-of-season pee-wee 7th grade basketball all-star games from Pocatello, Idaho before hockey...
And people wonder why hockey is not regarded very highly in most of the country...they televise out-of-season pee-wee 7th grade basketball all-star games from Pocatello, Idaho before hockey...
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Even though I'm a Hockey East fan and would most likely be unable to watch, I applaud and appreciate your efforts. You are doing a great service to the game by picking up the slack and doing your best to promote it!
Even though I'm a Hockey East fan and would most likely be unable to watch, I applaud and appreciate your efforts. You are doing a great service to the game by picking up the slack and doing your best to promote it!
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I believe Providence tried really hard to get the tournament this year and next year but it looks like they were unsuccessful in doing so. My guess is that the ECAC will return to AC next season for the final year of the three year deal and then find its way to Providence for a few years. I think that city has some potential to host a successful championship weekend.
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As for the TV coverage...wow. This is completely inexcusable. If they're supposed to be one of the 4 "major conferences", they would have had this lined up years ago. I never needed to worry about this because I always attend the finals weekend. But now that Union has made it and the venue is a 5-hour drive away, many in the Albany area are going to be sadly disappointed (I know a few already). Perhaps this is a ploy to get people to attend, but it's a lame attempt.
If the ECAC is going to get the coverage we think it should, then maybe they should re-consider the Hockey Fest in Boston with Hockey East. I don't remember the logistics around why they moved away from that, but it might be something worth considering, at least. Either that or go back to Lake Placid, where people might show up and the rink would look full.
I'd take that over Atlantic City...at least the city of Providence knows what college hockey is. I've opined for years that this thing should stay in Albany. As has been mentioned and discussed ad nauseum, the arena isn't perfect, but it's an improvement over Lake Placid (at least as far as size & space goes) and is the most central to all schools.
As for the TV coverage...wow. This is completely inexcusable. If they're supposed to be one of the 4 "major conferences", they would have had this lined up years ago. I never needed to worry about this because I always attend the finals weekend. But now that Union has made it and the venue is a 5-hour drive away, many in the Albany area are going to be sadly disappointed (I know a few already). Perhaps this is a ploy to get people to attend, but it's a lame attempt.
If the ECAC is going to get the coverage we think it should, then maybe they should re-consider the Hockey Fest in Boston with Hockey East. I don't remember the logistics around why they moved away from that, but it might be something worth considering, at least. Either that or go back to Lake Placid, where people might show up and the rink would look full.
Ralph Baer
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It left Boston because the ECAC was playing second fiddle to HE. It still is second fiddle, but not in the same town. i think taht Boston would still not be a good location for the same reason, but at least it would be in the ECAC's footprint.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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Unfortunately there's already another event going on in Lake Placid at the same time. You used to participate in it over 20 years ago.
Unfortunately there's already another event going on in Lake Placid at the same time. You used to participate in it over 20 years ago.
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I found questions about his favorite meal, etc. much more important
I found questions about his favorite meal, etc. much more important
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Yes, the move was entirely about the money the league receives from AC.
Two other points:
I wouldn't mind seeing the tournament back in Albany or Lake Placid, but it still would not mean a major surge in attendance if Cornell, RPI and/or Clarkson were not there. The only teams that send significant numbers of fans anywhere are Cornell, RPI, Clarkson and recnetly, Yale. Union doesn't even sell out its 2,400 seats at home, except for RPI and Cornell games. They will not draw more than 500-700 tickets no matter where the tournament is. One more suggestion for the tournament; the Glens Falls Civic Center. It is only about five minutes off I 87, 45 minutes north of Albany and has a standard size rink. I believe that some of the coaches don't like playing on the big ice at Placid. The tournament would be a big fish in a small pond, much like in LP.
As for WRPI; yes they put every game on the radio; and yes they start on time, but it is not quality radio. The announcers are just not very good. I understand that they are amateurs but a program that wants to be known as a national program should present a better product for its fans. I would like to see someone put a quality product on the air with professional quality announcers.
Yes, the move was entirely about the money the league receives from AC.
Two other points:
I wouldn't mind seeing the tournament back in Albany or Lake Placid, but it still would not mean a major surge in attendance if Cornell, RPI and/or Clarkson were not there. The only teams that send significant numbers of fans anywhere are Cornell, RPI, Clarkson and recnetly, Yale. Union doesn't even sell out its 2,400 seats at home, except for RPI and Cornell games. They will not draw more than 500-700 tickets no matter where the tournament is. One more suggestion for the tournament; the Glens Falls Civic Center. It is only about five minutes off I 87, 45 minutes north of Albany and has a standard size rink. I believe that some of the coaches don't like playing on the big ice at Placid. The tournament would be a big fish in a small pond, much like in LP.
As for WRPI; yes they put every game on the radio; and yes they start on time, but it is not quality radio. The announcers are just not very good. I understand that they are amateurs but a program that wants to be known as a national program should present a better product for its fans. I would like to see someone put a quality product on the air with professional quality announcers.
FlagDUDE08
Banned
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NYSPHSAA basketball tournament conflicts.
See, burgie12, I remembered!
NYSPHSAA basketball tournament conflicts.
See, burgie12, I remembered!