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ECAC Finals attendance contest

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DrDemento said:
I'm sure there would have been a better turnout with other ECAC teams that have tons of fans following them. Yale, Colgate and dartmouth just do not get the turnout. They could have held this any place and not had much of a crowd with these teams.
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But at least in Albany there are some locals who actually follow the sport and came out every year, even without Union or RPI playing. I know for sure that a good chunk of that group (as I am one of them) didn't make the trip. This is the first time the ECAC is playing a semifinal or final without me since 1994.

So for how many years did the league sign on with AC again?
 
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I'm also one of those locals who went to Albany every year regardless of who played. The same thing happened in Albany - the size of the crowd was determined by the teams playing. That's something the ECAC can't control. We're Union fans, and even if they were in the tournament, would not have traveled to AC - it's just too far and too expensive.
 
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achillesrink-3-7-5 said:
But at least in Albany there are some locals who actually follow the sport and came out every year, even without Union or RPI playing. I know for sure that a good chunk of that group (as I am one of them) didn't make the trip. This is the first time the ECAC is playing a semifinal or final without me since 1994.

So for how many years did the league sign on with AC again?
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....3 yr. deal
 
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Goaliefan said:
I'm also one of those locals who went to Albany every year regardless of who played. The same thing happened in Albany - the size of the crowd was determined by the teams playing. That's something the ECAC can't control. We're Union fans, and even if they were in the tournament, would not have traveled to AC - it's just too far and too expensive.
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Same here. It felt weird today knowing that I wouldnt be going to the ECAC's, first time in 9 or 10 years. Id go, regardless of who was in it. I doubt that is happening in AC.

But hey, those that b&$%hed and moaned and started a thread calling for the ECAC's to leave Albany , I wonder if they are down there, part of that massive crowd.
 
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Milmo said:
I think you were wrong about the grandparents
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Here is the official box score. I was optimistic.

http://www.collegehockeystats.net/1011/boxes/mclgyal1.m18

Final Score: Yale 4, Colgate 0
New Records: Yale 26-6-1, Colgate 11-27-3


Referees: Peter Feola, Tim Kotyra
Assistant Referees: Leo Boylan, David Brown
Attendance: 0
Start Time: 4:30 pm End Time: 6:58 pm Total Time: 2:28


But I'm pretty sure LT was there... so I'm going with 1.
 
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DrDemento said:
I'm sure there would have been a better turnout with other ECAC teams that have tons of fans following them. Yale, Colgate and dartmouth just do not get the turnout. They could have held this any place and not had much of a crowd with these teams.
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Cornell didn't travel too well either. AC is just too far away from the league. To be honest, and I was only in Albany once (last year), that was a better venue for hockey. Boardwalk Hall is physically too big and bright for hockey. They can probably put on a hell of a stage show or rodeo (April 1-3) but I felt lost trying to watch the games (and we were on the glass at the top of the faceoff circles).

Part of the knock on Albany was the lack of community support. Well, guess what? Other than those of us at the game I don't think anyone knew what was going on inside that building. While we were waiting to get in the 2 security people at the head of our line weren't even sure what the deal was.

Pathetic... I certainly won't be back here next year unless QU happens to make it, and even then I'm not so sure. By the time we're done it will be one fairly expensive weekend, and I haven't even been in the casinos yet!
 
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1.5K per session or so IMO. I was impressed with the amount of Yale fans present. As I have posted before, not a great place for hockey
 
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turk181 said:
....3 yr. deal
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A deal well worth negotiating a buy out from if attendance is as poor as it looked on tv.

If I remember it right, it was 2002 in Placid when they made a big presentation on the ice about how happy they were to have Avaya (a telecom that should be bottled water...) as a title sponsor and how they looked forward to many more years working with ORDA and Placid. I even think they announced that they'd be staying. A few months later and they picked up and moved it to Albany.

Albany, Hartford, Bridgeport, Providence, Worcester. They all have suitable arenas that are accessible by league teams. If attendance was really 1,500 then they could just hold it at 1923 rink at Penn and be almost as out of the way.
 
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Whoever said 3,351 for Friday wins.

ECAC quietly reports today's attendance: (it's way at the bottom) http://www.ecachockey.com/men/2010-11/Game_Stories/20111803_Yale_Colgate_Semifinals

For reference:
In '09 with Cornell, Princeton, Yale, SLU the attendance was 3,517 in Albany for the Friday games. (4,857 Saturday)

In '08 with Harvard, Colgate, Cornell, and Yale (very similar field), Friday drew 5,074. (4,851 Saturday)


I could only find Saturday's number for last year: 6,505.
 
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from what I'm told by people who were ACTUALLY there, it was probably 1/2 that
 
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LGR03 said:
Whoever said 3,351 for Friday wins.
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turk181 said:
from what I'm told by people who were ACTUALLY there, it was probably 1/2 that
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There's no way that Boardwalk Hall was a third full last night. At best they were about 20-25% and that's being generous.

Perhaps they came up with 3,351 by multiplying the actual number of fans times the 2 games! :rolleyes:
 
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The ECAC Championships have been a disaster since they left Lake Placid. The ECAC Championship game use to get between 6,700-7,500 people. Now its half that amount! The League really needs to go back to LP.
 
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March 20, 1999

Clarkson edges traveling-partner St. Lawrence 3-2 in the ECAC Championship in front of a crowd of 8,469 fans.

Seating for Herb Brooks Arena in Lake Placid is 7,700.
 
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I posted a comment about the venues, which was based on my having attended 41 straight ECAC championships before this year (typically with a group of 20-40 others) on the Union thread. My poor typing and technical skills prevent me from duplicating that here.
 
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The problem with Lake Placid was the ice size, right? Bigger than the usual 200x85, isn't it?

What about putting it in Glens Falls? Not the biggest of venues (4800 seats, probably 5500 w/ standing room) and there's always the potential to conflict with the HS basketball tournaments.... but it's a nice place to watch a game, a nice town as well. They put in new seats about 5 years ago and are getting 1 (maybe 2) video boards by the fall. They're also re-doing the sound system.
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
There's no way that Boardwalk Hall was a third full last night. At best they were about 20-25% and that's being generous.

Perhaps they came up with 3,351 by multiplying the actual number of fans times the 2 games! :rolleyes:
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I think they added about 1.351 or more "fans disguised as empty seats" to the attendance totals. The ECAC should be embarrassed.:confused:
 
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Would like to have been at the finals, but like others, too expensive to make the long trek to AC. If in Albany I would have been there. It seems to me - and others - that despite the lackluster environment in Albany, it is much more centrally located for ECAC teams (except Princeton). Don't know why they switched to essentially another sub-par venue way out in nowhere.

FWIW, I believe the Broome County Arena in Binghamton is the best facility for watching hockey and also is somewhat smaller and more intimate. I know Binghamton is no garden spot, but hey, it's worth it to have great sight lines and a crowd that fits the building. And Bing. is centrally located. Other than the old Garden on 8th Avenue in NYC, Bing. is the best IMHO.
 
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Have been to lake Placid and Albany for the tournament-loved both. Live right near AC and still feel it was a horrible choice. I would stick to Albany as a relatively central spot. Lake Placid is scenic and historic and has great atmosphere but truthfully is a bit of a haul for many fans and the winter weather can make the trip treacherous. Albany or something in Connecticut really would make the most sense although I always have secretly wished for Madison Square Garden as a venue if we could draw enough to make it feasible.
 
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nut_case said:
Prior to this year I had attended 41 straight ECAC championships, typically with a group of between 20 and 40 people. Although many in the group are Cornell alumni or fans, we went regardless of which teams were in the field.None of that group was even remotely interested in going to Atlantic City this year. Boston was a great venue before the teams from Hockey East left, Lake Placid was fantastic and Albany was more than acceptable. We had certainly hoped that the event would return to Lake Placid if Albany lost it and were stunned beyond comprhension when the move to Atlantic City was announced (particularly in light of the very modest financial guarantee). I have not been able to find any information on yesterday's attendance, but it certainly looked ridiculously low on the television screen. The ECAC is primarily a New York State and New England league with a core of fans from the various schools which could historically be counted on to send between 5,500 and (in the best cases) 8,000 or so fans each year. Those totals were fairly consistent during the last few years in Boston, during the Lake Placid years, and in Albany. There were always fans attending each year even when their own teams were not in the event. I doubt that very many of those are in Atlantic City this weekend and there is no reason to think that they will be there in the future. The location has no connection to the league, and even the hope that new fans from NYC might change the attendance totals seems to have been misguided. It is sad to the members of our group that what seems to me to be an unrealistic hope for a larger crowd has led to this development. If it were up to me I would focus on the realities of the core group of true ECAC fans and get this event back to Lake Placid or Albany as soon as possible.
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