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East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

ECAC in league play: 132 games - 726 goals = 5.5 goals/game.
HE in league play: 110 game - 563 goals = 5.12 goals/game.

7% difference is not worth discussing.

Why would you compare league play? Whatever, you don't want to discuss it fine... Just trying to ask a question and get something that resembled a thoughtful answer.

Would you care to compare and contrast this years team and last years team? That would be appreciated.
 
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

Why would you compare league play? Whatever, you don't want to discuss it fine... Just trying to ask a question and get something that resembled a thoughtful answer.

Would you care to compare and contrast this years team and last years team? That would be appreciated.

You were saying the ECAC seems to be a higher scoring league. You asked if it might be because their defenses are weaker. I assumed you meant when they were playing against each other.
 
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Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

Here is what you need to know about Quinnipiac and Union. Both are in the top 5 offensively (Union is 2 at 3.68 gpg and QU is 4th at 3.62 gpg) and both teams are in the top 5 defensively (QU is #2 at 1.97 gpg and Union is #4 at 2.08 gpg). These two are legit top teams in the country and could beat anyone on any given night.
 
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You will not get a response about PC that is as confident as what I've been reading. If the PC from the first half of the season and the Maine/UMASS series shows up - the PC who tied QU and came back from 3 goals to beat UML - is in the house, yes we can spring the upset. The PC who really struggled against UNH on Friday, and who lost to UCONN and Air Force and blew late leads against BU and NU? That team will not last long against QU.
Hopefully, last Friday was the anomaly.
 
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

Hear about Union? Why don't you read about Union or can you not find enough to read about?

Reading the fluff recap pieces and hearing from fans who watch the game are different viewpoints. I would prefer to hear from Union fans as well as their oppositions fans that maybe trolling the thread. I would particularly like to hear how this years team is different then the one I watched last year.
 
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

You will not get a response about PC that is as confident as what I've been reading. If the PC from the first half of the season and the Maine/UMASS series shows up - the PC who tied QU and came back from 3 goals to beat UML - is in the house, yes we can spring the upset. The PC who really struggled against UNH on Friday, and who lost to UCONN and Air Force and blew late leads against BU and NU? That team will not last long against QU.
Hopefully, last Friday was the anomaly.

Always the sandbagger
 
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

You were saying the ECAC seems to be a higher scoring league. You asked if it might be because their defenses are weaker. I assumed you meant when they were playing against each other.


I was talking in general, I apologize for not making that clear. However, you produced some very good statistics about their being a 7% difference. While I continue to believe that is significant, it is not as high as I had thought and it probably isn't worth discussing.

I would still very much like to hear about Unions style of play, and how they are different then last years team. They appear to have brought in 3 or so forwards with offensive talent and D-man as well. Did those guys replace scorers? How was last years class that left and how has this years class filled those gaps?

Yes I could look up the stats of last years senior, but goals scored is only a small part of what a player brings to his team, which is again why I ask fans who watch the games instead of looking to see how many goals last years senior class had. And, if there are any Eli trolls out there I'd love to get your thoughts comparing this years team to last years team. As defending champs that would be a unique perspective.
 
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Hey jcarter7669, is this you?

This Week in Disrespect: Never doubt us - MARCH 19, 2009
http://theiceislife.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/this-week-in-disrespect-never-doubt-us/

This “jcarter7669″ fellow continued to exhibit his stupidity and lack of knowledge (hockey or otherwise) for the next couple of days. Most of his posts are hideous trainwrecks of logic and reading comprehension, so we’ll just be content to laugh at him from the Boston Garden this Friday.

However, “jcarter7669″ wasn’t the only Catamount fan lining up to feast on a delicious meal of crow, with a thick slab of mouthwatering humble pie for dessert. Not by a long shot. Poster “KennyCat” added this bit of illogic to the discussion:

Poster “jcarter7669,” obviously a Catamounts fan, decided that our calm, rational reasoning for choosing to look at the two most recent Lowell/Vermont games, both played at Gutterson Fieldhouse, as an indicator for the upcoming series was, in fact, absurd.


If this is you ... you are some kind of major ****in* *******. If you look in the yellow pages up there in Burlington, I am sure you can find a therapist to help you out.
 
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Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

Hey jcarter7669, is this you?

This Week in Disrespect: Never doubt us - MARCH 19, 2009
http://theiceislife.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/this-week-in-disrespect-never-doubt-us/

This “jcarter7669″ fellow continued to exhibit his stupidity and lack of knowledge (hockey or otherwise) for the next couple of days. Most of his posts are hideous trainwrecks of logic and reading comprehension, so we’ll just be content to laugh at him from the Boston Garden this Friday.

However, “jcarter7669″ wasn’t the only Catamount fan lining up to feast on a delicious meal of crow, with a thick slab of mouthwatering humble pie for dessert. Not by a long shot. Poster “KennyCat” added this bit of illogic to the discussion:

Poster “jcarter7669,” obviously a Catamounts fan, decided that our calm, rational reasoning for choosing to look at the two most recent Lowell/Vermont games, both played at Gutterson Fieldhouse, as an indicator for the upcoming series was, in fact, absurd.


If this is you ... you are some kind of major ****in* *******. If you look in the yellow pages up there in Burlington, I am sure you can find a therapist to help you out.


You are just upset that I called out your idiotic comment that we should only count Collins last 8 games because he missed some games during the season... of course those games were the 2,3,4,5th games of the season... dope.

But to answer your question yes I am infamous, been getting idiotic posters like you and a few Lowell fans all hot and bothered since 2009. Oh and I'm guessing that with those red chicklets, you are even a bigger ****in* ******* then me...
 
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

I have posted this quote in our fan forum page but it is worth repeating here. It is from the weekend of 1/17 and 1/18 when Union played UNH twice in their barn, it is from UNH tv when their players and coach were being interviewed, the quote is from Kevin Goumas , I believe one of their senior players and captain. "They are a hard working team, really physical, go to battle pretty hard, pretty tough to play against, not a lot of time and space with them, they are all over the puck, THEY HUNT YOU DOWN. Pretty much defense minded, their goalie stood on their head all weekend, and you know they had a couple of power plays where they capitalized" As I said before this is the Union hockey we want to bring to the arena every night. It seems that the team as a whole has bought into it and the upperclass leadership and players exemplify it. The freshmen have accounted for over 80 points this year and have been gradually been getting better as the season wore on and really play with a lot of poise . If I may add the series with UNH was like playoff hockey, both teams played their best in my humble opinion.
 
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Jack Parker has only been gone one year and he's already forgotten? Sigh...

From what I hear on the UNH thread, Madigan has a bit of Jackie in him. That sounded wrong.

Think Jackson is closer to Parker than Madigan between 8!tching about the refs to the press & having his goalie constantly kick the net off.
 
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SCOUTING REPORT: UVM
Last year HE sent its franchise team into a region with two hungry ECAC teams. They will not make that mistake again. Now it's sending two of its best defensive teams to try and make sure that the ECAC does not come out of this region alive, and prevent another coronation of the king. We will see. The Captain of the Vermont team said that he saw us play and that Vermont matches up well against us.

Dude, you realize HE doesn't actually pick where to send teams in their league right? And they also don't give a rats *** who wins the tourney if it isn't a HE team right?

And the Vermont captain didn't see you play... HE played you last year tallying an assist... when you lost to a crappy UVM team that barely won 11 games.
 
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

That's an interesting statement. We should explore that more and put it to bed once and for all. How about an average ranking for all teams in a league to allow for comparison? Do you think that would be a fair assessment of a league's competitiveness?

I'll bite this one time...

My statement came from watching all of the leagues over the course of the past 10 years or so. I have no numbers to back this up, nor do I have the time to research it. But when you see the top teams in the old WHCA, the old CCHA, and Hockey East be significantly ahead of the rest, it almost seems those leagues were top heavy.

The ECAC would usually come down to the last weekend (many times down to the last night) as to who ends up in what place. Except for the last two seasons, the Cleary Cup winner typically wasn't known until the final weekend. Often times we'd see a dogfight for a first round bye, along with another dogfight for home ice in the first round. Many of us have said that, top to bottom, any team in this league could beat any other. Union swept Dartmouth in the playoffs this year, but there was no reason that Dartmouth couldn't have won those games, as well.

Say what you want about their comparison to other conferences (and bring all the numbers you want, too), but I'll stand by my statement about the ECAC arguably being the most competitive conference in the country.
 
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All ECAC Fans: No need to fight the HE guys. 2 of their 3 teams last year were knocked out by ECAC teams last year. Non of our teams lost to anyone outside the ECAC. They remember that. Their only rebuttal can be that's the past and to that we have this weekend to look forward to. I will be in attendance to watch Union-UVM and as much as I don't want Q to have to face Union if both teams win, I'd always rather have an ECAC team rather than a HE team. Also, the entire country is quickly learning that the ECAC is fast approaching HE and most of the ECAC schools dont give out scholarships and have low budgets. Whether HE wants to accept it or not, the gap is shrinking
 
Re: East Regional- Union vs Vermont & Quinnipiac vs Providence

Hey jcarter7669, is this you?

This Week in Disrespect: Never doubt us - MARCH 19, 2009
http://theiceislife.wordpress.com/2009/03/19/this-week-in-disrespect-never-doubt-us/

This “jcarter7669″ fellow continued to exhibit his stupidity and lack of knowledge (hockey or otherwise) for the next couple of days. Most of his posts are hideous trainwrecks of logic and reading comprehension, so we’ll just be content to laugh at him from the Boston Garden this Friday.

However, “jcarter7669″ wasn’t the only Catamount fan lining up to feast on a delicious meal of crow, with a thick slab of mouthwatering humble pie for dessert. Not by a long shot. Poster “KennyCat” added this bit of illogic to the discussion:

Poster “jcarter7669,” obviously a Catamounts fan, decided that our calm, rational reasoning for choosing to look at the two most recent Lowell/Vermont games, both played at Gutterson Fieldhouse, as an indicator for the upcoming series was, in fact, absurd.


If this is you ... you are some kind of major ****in* *******. If you look in the yellow pages up there in Burlington, I am sure you can find a therapist to help you out.

Oh, the irony. :D
 
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